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Warren, Sanders beat Hillary in poll of DFA members

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by Alex Seitz-Wald

“If you only listened to Washington pundits, you’d wonder why Democrats are even bothering holding primaries and caucuses.”

- Charles Chamberlain, Democracy for America

The members of the progressive group that grew out of Howard Dean’s presidential campaign are not exactly ready for Hillary.

Democracy for America (DFA) has been asking their roughly one million members whom the group should support in a hypothetical 2016 Democratic presidential primary. Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren was the clear favorite, with support from 42% of respondents, according to results shared with msnbc ahead of their release later Thursday.

In second place was Vermont independent Sen. Bernie Sanders, who is seriously considering a presidential bid as a Democrat, with 24%. Just one point behind was former secretary of State Hillary Clinton at 23%.

From there, the numbers drop off significantly, with former Labor Secretary Robert Reich – who told msnbc he is not interested in running – capturing 3% of the vote, and Vice President Joe Biden getting just 2%. Former Virginia Sen. Jim Webb, who announced an exploratory committee Thursday, received less than 1% of the vote.

Warren has repeatedly said she is not running for president and there is no evidence thus far that she’s interested. Sanders is seriously considering a run, and recently hired a top Democratic strategist to help plan a bid.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/warren-sanders-beat-hillary-poll-liberal-groups-members?adbid=746970968691085&adbpl=fb&adbpr=114945745226947&cid=sm_m_lastword_4_20141121_35989557

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Warren, Sanders beat Hillary in poll of DFA members (Original post)	Douglas Carpenter	Nov 2014	OP
Sanders/Warren would make a nice ticket.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Nov 2014	#1
I Saw This	billhicks76	Nov 2014	#137
Warren 2016 - I grew up in a GOP household. Now, none of them are Republican.	TheBlackAdder	Nov 2014	#287
No one has told them she's inevitable, yet?	Warren DeMontague	Nov 2014	#2
Warren double digits over Hillary. Sanders came in second.	woo me with science	Nov 2014	#3
Sanders got the "Colbert Bump" this week, and the crowd already knew and loved him.	arcane1	Nov 2014	#127
Yep. Exactly	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#177
Liberals need to get the ground campaign going.	joshcryer	Nov 2014	#4
It should have been started 3 yrs ago.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#24
You could've saved time and just said "lazy hippies".	Marr	Nov 2014	#37
Your comment proves you've never met a real hippie.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#74
i think you misread nt	Voice for Peace	Nov 2014	#80
I didn't mention hippies in my post. Yet the poster felt to need to make il-informed assumptions	baldguy	Nov 2014	#84
you're correct and I am the one who misread	Voice for Peace	Nov 2014	#96
What I don't get is why some supposed moderates are so anti-democratic.	Rex	Nov 2014	#90
democrats against democracy	noiretextatique	Nov 2014	#190
As if Stalinist purges are in the Democratic Party tradition.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#370
Hear, Here!	2banon	Nov 2014	#204
You sure seem to have a lot of stored hatred for liberals, baldguy	Scootaloo	Nov 2014	#89
And for democracy as well.	Rex	Nov 2014	#92
Not at all. Just phonys who claim to be liberals.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#97
So... Anyone who doesn't share your candidate is a "phony liberal"?	Scootaloo	Nov 2014	#99
A "phony liberal" is anyone who works to defeat the Dem nom even before they're nominated	baldguy	Nov 2014	#106
There's no dem nom until after the primary	aspirant	Nov 2014	#120
That's Stupid	billhicks76	Nov 2014	#138
So, you're advocating the use of Tea Party tactics in the Democratic Party.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#152
Its shining a light on the truth. Exposing, not purging. ~nt	RiverLover	Nov 2014	#160
I'm sure that's how Stalin put it, too.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#169
Pogrom?	Aerows	Nov 2014	#285
Don't Put Words In My Mouth	billhicks76	Nov 2014	#365
I'm not putting words in your mouth. You've got Karl Rove to do that.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#369
That Sounds Stupider Than Anything Ive Read Yet	billhicks76	Dec 2014	#388
Except that Karl Rove was one of the people orchastrating the attacks on the Clintons	baldguy	Dec 2014	#389
BS	billhicks76	Dec 2014	#390
It's all theater to divide us. You're a major performer in that theater. At least on DU.	baldguy	Dec 2014	#391
Good Luck With That Viewpoint	billhicks76	Dec 2014	#392
And you describe Hillary Clinton and her fans perfectly	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#178
Hillary's fans aren't the ones calling for purges. The phoney "liberals" are.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#367
It's the other way around.	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#373
Someone hasn't been paying attention.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#374
Thats because we do not consider Secretary Clinton a viable candidate	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#375
Well, let's just have a few primaries & see.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#376
Fine, let's have a primary - I guarantee you this: Ms. Clinton will lose every caucus and primaries	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#377
If you believe that, then you've swallowed the RW Rovian lies hook, line & sinker.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#378
Purges	saintsebastian	Nov 2014	#380
"Liberals" advocating purges believe that they can't gain support in the party through other means.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#381
Did You Even Read My Post?	saintsebastian	Nov 2014	#382
Not liberals; but "liberals". Note the difference.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#383
Repeating Myself	saintsebastian	Nov 2014	#384
You replied to my post, and you seem to taking an opposing side.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#385
Anti-Democratic?	saintsebastian	Nov 2014	#386
So... yes, whoever doesn't fancy the candidate you favor is a "phony liberal"	Scootaloo	Nov 2014	#366
What I favor is a Democratic victory. If Sanders joins the Party & wins the nom, I'll vote for him.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#368
I think it's always a good idea -- when casting generalized aspersions, and proclaiming	Voice for Peace	Nov 2014	#98
Hillary started running the day she resigned as Sec of State, and Warren isn't running at all.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#102
The odds are purportedly very good that almost any Dem can win in 2016	Voice for Peace	Nov 2014	#110
Uh. Exploratory group? Announcements to the link...	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#179
Link? Proof?	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#180
Warren has stated repeatedly that she is not running for President.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#187
I AM not talking about Warren....	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#191
Are you under the impression that Hillary isn't running?	baldguy	Nov 2014	#194
I am not under impression on anything. She hasn't announced her candidacy or formed an exploratory	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#207
You and I agree	Aerows	Nov 2014	#289
Three years ago we were trying to reelect Obama	arcane1	Nov 2014	#128
The RW Republicans began looking for a populist conservative candidate in 1964.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#130
Maybe Hillary can be Secretary of State. :)	C Moon	Nov 2014	#5
I see this as good news.	TerrapinFlyer	Nov 2014	#6
I'm fairly confident they'll win polls at DU and Kos, too	Recursion	Nov 2014	#7
I seriously hope Jerry Brown runs.	True Blue Door	Nov 2014	#8
Finally, some reality in the press. We don't want Hillary!!!!!	RiverLover	Nov 2014	#9
This article is 'reality' insofar as it shows what a percentage of DFA members prefer.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#11
How are 'Public opinion surveys" scientically factual and not full of caveats?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#12
Polling is done by a random sampling of registered and/or likely voters	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#17
Progressives speak.	aspirant	Nov 2014	#27
In a closed poll for members only	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#29
A poll is a poll is a poll.	aspirant	Nov 2014	#35
that is ridiculously naive	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#36
Trying to figure out your skewed thinking reminds me of trying to figure out rethugs' thinking.	RiverLover	Nov 2014	#42
They polled DFA members who happen to be Democrats (well, mostly I guess)	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#44
The DFA poll is predictive. Ask President Kucinich.	SunSeeker	Nov 2014	#145
The 2008 polls predictive, ask President Hillary Clinton!	aspirant	Nov 2014	#149
The "2008 polls" showed Obama beating McCain.	SunSeeker	Nov 2014	#151
Who can predict?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#153
Tell that to the OP. nt	SunSeeker	Nov 2014	#157
This is ridiculously evasive!	aspirant	Nov 2014	#45
How did I evade? It is a FACT Warren supporters contacted DFA members...	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#46
Poof, it's gone	aspirant	Nov 2014	#49
Go to McDonalds and get me an egg mcmuffin... better yet...	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#52
No on the egg sandwich and no on swaying my vote, which you implied they did.	aspirant	Nov 2014	#69
that's what the OP said they did.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#91
But you didn't sway my vote	aspirant	Nov 2014	#105
So? You equated "telling" with "threatening"	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#107
Third place and falling.	aspirant	Nov 2014	#115
aspirant: Last place and desperate	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#119
Wolfie desparately hanging on to a loser	aspirant	Nov 2014	#122
That's what the OP states, Sherlock	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#124
Which OP states are democratic?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#125
The OP states what you are so mad at me for repeating LOL	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#126
Sanders is already in exploration mode.	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#185
Ok well good for you.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#188
I love Egg McMuffins.	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#205
No polls are valid unless The Inevitable is leading by 124%! and is the most progressive in history!	LawDeeDah	Nov 2014	#100
ok, right.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#101
I know, it's hilarious and I've been seeing that here a lot lately.	LawDeeDah	Nov 2014	#104
This poll doesn't exist on the Democracy for America website. I found it attributed to them elsewhe	RiverLover	Nov 2014	#48
LOL	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#50
The 2016 polls!	aspirant	Nov 2014	#56
So your denying the 2016 poll results?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#59
Nice try,you cited them now support them with the info requested.	aspirant	Nov 2014	#65
I cited the 2016 DFA poll results? WTF are you asking?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#66
You are a saint.	tritsofme	Nov 2014	#70
True.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#73
Post #11 Clinton 2016 presidental polls (my edit)	aspirant	Nov 2014	#79
What, exactly, are you disputing from post 17?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#81
Evade to invade.	aspirant	Nov 2014	#94
Tell me exactly what you are disputing if you want an answer.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#95
My post #35 second section and post #79 should solve your evasions	aspirant	Nov 2014	#112
Your post #35 second section and #79	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#117
My mistake post #17 is post#11 and was posted on #49 earlier.	aspirant	Nov 2014	#129
So, again, what are you denying?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#131
Will the honest pollsters stand-up	aspirant	Nov 2014	#132
So you're going to attack the pollsters because it's the only thing you have left	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#133
Would you risk your life on a poll?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#135
Do you make a habit out of...	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#141
Trolling down the avenue.	aspirant	Nov 2014	#146
I've been here for over 10 years you need to look up the definition of troll	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#164
Poll that	aspirant	Nov 2014	#166
Why? You'd just deny the results	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#167
What's the probability you will answer the question?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#173
Why do you deny science?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#174
The science of statistics is probability, guesses at best	aspirant	Nov 2014	#197
Why do you continue to deny science?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#199
Graded: 50%	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#192
Graded: 0%	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#195
Wolfie why are you so angry? Calm down remember the big tent.	aspirant	Nov 2014	#201
Aspy, why do you deny science?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#203
Wolfie,will you risk your life on a poll?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#215
Aspy why do you deny science?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#217
Wolfie is your life more important than a poll?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#225
You can't pick and choose science out of conveniece	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#227
Will you risk your life on probable guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#229
Did you go to a Bible college? Sounds like it	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#230
Will you risk your life on probable guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#232
What was the name of your bible college?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#234
Wolfie World. Will you risk your life on probable guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#241
Pat Robertson?? Spare us!	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#242
Will you risk your life on probable guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#245
Why are you a science denier?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#246
Science of comedy,is your life more important than probable guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#249
You've denied global warming and evolution	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#250
Science of plumbing will you risk your life on probable guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#252
You believe global warming is the science of plumbing?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#253
Are all sciences the same?Will you risk your life on guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#258
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#259
Science of evasion is your life more important than guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#261
Why do you keep evading my questions?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#262
The science of the game, will you risk your life on guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#265
The science behind vaccinations is solid.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#266
science of solidity, will you risk your life on guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#269
But you keep denying it and evading my questions	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#270
science of questioning, will you risk youer life on guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#272
You're not even questioning you're evading	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#273
Science of you, will you risk your life on guesses	aspirant	Nov 2014	#278
More evasion	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#280
Nothing solid from where you stand it's all evasive	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#277
Science of nothingness? is your life more important than guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#279
Nothingness yes a very good description of your non-answers	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#281
science of good vs bad, will you risk your lfe on guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#282
Why are you a science denier?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#283
science of science, will you risk your life on guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#284
And you deny it all	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#286
Science of all there is, will you risk your life on guesses	aspirant	Nov 2014	#290
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#291
Science of DU, willyou risk your life on guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#294
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#297
science of believing in polls, is your life more important than guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#299
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#301
Science of believing in polls,Will you risk your life for guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#302
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#304
science of hot and cold, is your life more important than guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#309
More evasion	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#288
Science of more or less, is your life more important than guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#292
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#293
Science of believing in polls,Will you risk your life on guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#296
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#334
Why are you ducking my questions on science?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#260
The science of debate, will you risk your life on guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#263
Why do you keep evading my questions?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#264
The science of questioning,will you risk your life on guesses	aspirant	Nov 2014	#267
You question global warming really??	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#268
Debate 101 at the Crystal Cathedral from Aspy	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#256
Thank you.	RiverLover	Nov 2014	#58
So you're pissed that you didn't sign up for DFA?	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#182
What makes you think that?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#186
So did you vote on that poll or not?	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#196
Makes no difference	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#198
You're whining about the fact that Ms. Clinton came on third	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#209
Quote me. Link or slink.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#212
No need to. The avatar of yours says it all.	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#213
Another amazing display of your psychic ability	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#216
Savoring the "whoosh" of goalposts moving.	woo me with science	Nov 2014	#13
The article linked in the OP says the very thing you are denying.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#18
You must get so dizzy from all that spinning.	woo me with science	Nov 2014	#63
So quoting the article is "spin?" LOL	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#77
No, but pretending to miss the point is. Pretending Post 63 was anything but straightforward is.	woo me with science	Nov 2014	#113
What point did I pretend to miss?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#114
LOL ...those goal posts are on castors.	L0oniX	Nov 2014	#355
Roller skates, baby!	woo me with science	Nov 2014	#360
In fact...	OilemFirchen	Nov 2014	#14
you mean Warren? if you do you think Hillary Rodham would be a 'known' without Bill	LawDeeDah	Nov 2014	#103
Correct on both assumptions.	OilemFirchen	Nov 2014	#134
My take from this poll	Kermitt Gribble	Nov 2014	#19
So unless you're a DFA member, you're politically uninformed?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#20
Where does it "essentially states" this?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#30
This is really easy to understand	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#32
I didn't say that.	Kermitt Gribble	Nov 2014	#33
it's the same thing	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#34
No, it's not.	Kermitt Gribble	Nov 2014	#41
here are your words:	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#43
Sorry, I'm not seeing the "gotcha" here.	Kermitt Gribble	Nov 2014	#62
There's no 'gotcha' here.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#71
In general polls people can claim to be whatever they want. A lot of HRC supporters claim to be	rhett o rick	Nov 2014	#67
Anyone can join DFA to vote in their polls, too.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#76
Bingo. Exactly correct.	JEB	Nov 2014	#23
Yep. Exactly.	woo me with science	Nov 2014	#25
+1 Well said. I'm with you there. /nt	Marr	Nov 2014	#38
This is a caveat?	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Nov 2014	#28
of course it is	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#31
Howard Dean, yes, he is supporting Clinton	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#181
How do you know that about Dean?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#184
I will leave that for you to figure that out.	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#189
Oh, another psychic deaniac with a mental connection	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#193
Even if Warren supporters "ordered" DFA members	Aerows	Nov 2014	#298
Who are you quoting with "ordered?"	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#300
Science of quotations. will you risk your life on guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#303
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#307
Science of DU, will you risk your life on guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#311
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#313
science of repitition, will you risk your life on guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#316
Why do you keep repeating yourself?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#318
science of the self, is your life more important than guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#319
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#320
Science of dos and don'ts, will you risk your life on guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#322
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#324
Science of all Wolfie has left or right, is your life worth more than a guess?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#329
Aspirant aspires to nothing but science denial	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#332
science of aspirations, are you worth more than a guess?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#338
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#340
Last word	aspirant	Nov 2014	#345
Science. You don't have to like it.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#346
It's a guess, last word	aspirant	Nov 2014	#347
Science. You don't have to like it.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#348
The science of statistics is probability, guesses at best, last word	aspirant	Nov 2014	#349
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#350
Yes, she has staunch supporters	Aerows	Nov 2014	#305
yes, President Kucinich won this same poll in 2008	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#308
Pardon me	Aerows	Nov 2014	#310
We're discussing a very specific poll	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#312
I'm discussing reality	Aerows	Nov 2014	#314
This poll doesn't mention youth vote	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#317
People aren't obligated to engage you	Aerows	Nov 2014	#321
It isn't my opinion that DFA's pulse poll...	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#323
Considering the responses you have offered in this thread	Aerows	Nov 2014	#326
Quote me. Provide quotes and links	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#327
A link?	Aerows	Nov 2014	#328
That's what I thought	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#330
Your opinions	Aerows	Nov 2014	#337
Quote me to prove your point.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#339
Wyldwolf	Aerows	Nov 2014	#341
Link or slink. I guess you slink.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#343
It's ridiculous to write off Hilllary. Warren is not running. Sanders can't win. Find reality.	RBInMaine	Nov 2014	#158
The reality is Hillary lost a 30 point lead to Obama. Sound like a winner to you? Nt	Logical	Nov 2014	#387
Yes, but a poll of Wall Street hedge fund managers had Hillary running away with it.	Scuba	Nov 2014	#10
+1	woo me with science	Nov 2014	#15
^^^this^^^	L0oniX	Nov 2014	#356
In other news...	OilemFirchen	Nov 2014	#16
70% of vegans polled prove meatless burgers are America's favorite food.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#21
And Ben Carson won the CPAC straw poll	frazzled	Nov 2014	#22
Good Point	billhicks76	Nov 2014	#139
I seem to recall in the early days of that poll, the pro-Hillary folks were posting	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Nov 2014	#26
DFA's pulse poll has always been deadly accurate	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#39
Indeed they do but...	brooklynite	Nov 2014	#40
Let's poll Democratic Millennials and see?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#51
which would give the results of DU Democratic Millennials who participate in the poll	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#54
DU counts too.	aspirant	Nov 2014	#64
Sure they do. DU occupies an itty bitty place in the Dem electorate	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#68
If this is such an itty bitty insignificant place,what are you doing here?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#82
There's a quaint little restaurant up the street I frequent often	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#85
You mean the restaurant with the itty-bitty food and the insignificant sitting	aspirant	Nov 2014	#116
yep, that one	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#118
Boomers will decide 2016. They have a higher registration rate.	joshcryer	Nov 2014	#144
If boomers always come out and vote, what happenned in 2014?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#147
Boomers voted.	joshcryer	Nov 2014	#155
Do objects have facts?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#159
Good luck with that.	joshcryer	Nov 2014	#162
Onward and upward	aspirant	Nov 2014	#163
I'm a woman boomer, and no way will I vote for HRC	peacebird	Nov 2014	#226
I don't like her either...please give me a choice! Nt	marlakay	Nov 2014	#295
The Pundits claimed the '08 election was going to be Hillary versus Rudy.	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2014	#47
DFA in '08 picked Dennis Kucinich to be the Dem nominee	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#86
That was my vote in the primary.	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2014	#88
and here is the poll that matters..	VanillaRhapsody	Nov 2014	#53
She won't be running against Christie and Paul in the primary.	Marr	Nov 2014	#60
but whoever WINS that Primary will...what are THEIR stats against the competition?	VanillaRhapsody	Nov 2014	#61
And as the GOP works to get their people to turn out,	baldguy	Nov 2014	#78
Liberals prefer Sanders and Warren, I'm shocked........	Beacool	Nov 2014	#379
So Hillary it is time for you to start realizing that we do not want Dem-light. We want someone who	jwirr	Nov 2014	#55
Who is this we bunch? We need a strong person who can make good decision on running this country.	Thinkingabout	Nov 2014	#123
Yes, and I mentioned those issues. TPP means sending more jobs overseas, Keystone means ignoring	jwirr	Nov 2014	#351
I am one of many Democrats and we need a strong leader, these other issues will get worked out also,	Thinkingabout	Nov 2014	#352
That is all many of us are asking for. Let anyone who wants to run against her run. And work it out	jwirr	Nov 2014	#353
Likewise, all candidates needs to comply with the same rules of engagement.	Thinkingabout	Nov 2014	#357
Rec and lol at the consternation of some. nt	Union Scribe	Nov 2014	#57
Committed liberals turn out for caucuses. Bad news for Hillary in Iowa. n/t	pa28	Nov 2014	#72
Yet, she leads in Dem polls in Iowa, too.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#75
And like it or not, Iowa sets the pace.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#87
And I seem to recall that Iowa rejected Clinton in '08.	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#274
That's actually not a bad looking ticket.	maced666	Nov 2014	#83
DFA members make up about .1% of Democratic primary voters, and Warren ain't running	bluestateguy	Nov 2014	#93
Numbers are just numbers	aspirant	Nov 2014	#121
And how representative of a group is it?	frazzled	Nov 2014	#142
Possible vs Probable	aspirant	Nov 2014	#148
It's quite amazing	frazzled	Nov 2014	#165
In touch with reality	aspirant	Nov 2014	#170
What are 'Hillary polls?'	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#175
Will you risk your life on a poll?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#210
Why do you deny science?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#211
Wolfie will you risk your life on a poll?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#218
Global warming isn't a myth, Aspy	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#219
Wolfie, is your life more important than a poll?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#224
Really? You think evolution is a myth, too?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#228
Will you risk your life on probable guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#231
Fundamentalism makes you happy	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#233
Will you risk your life on probable guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#236
Why are you avoiding my questions?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#237
Here's a question, will you risk your life for probable guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#238
Here's a better one. Why do you deny science?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#239
The science of boxing? Is your life more important than probable guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#243
Can't believe you're actually quoting Pat Robertson	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#244
Science of painting Will you risk your life on probable guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#247
Anything Jerry Falwell says isn't relevant	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#248
Science of music,is your life more important than probable guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#251
Why do you continue to deny global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#254
science of continuation is your life more important than a guess?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#271
More like the fundamentalism of continuation	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#275
Science of ism, are you worth more than a guess?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#342
Science to you is a guess.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#344
The science of statistics is probability, guesses at best	aspirant	Nov 2014	#358
Why is global warming a guess to you?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#361
Last word	aspirant	Nov 2014	#362
And you don't believe in vaccinations, either?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#363
LOL - I don't even see people trying to sell Hillary on the issues	JonLP24	Nov 2014	#108
Because this thread isn't about Hillary; it's about the meaning of closed polls	frazzled	Nov 2014	#214
This is far from the only thread that was inspiration to my comment	JonLP24	Nov 2014	#257
Imagine a progressive group going with who is perceived as their progressive candidate.	Thinkingabout	Nov 2014	#109
'the party' needs to get behind the people. This appears to a ticket most interested would like.	TheNutcracker	Nov 2014	#111
Funny... Just yesterday DU was telling me that she could never win... And neither could Sanders...	Fearless	Nov 2014	#136
Yeah, and we still have two years to go. By that time Hillary might be out of the	Cal33	Nov 2014	#200
Well, I am a member,	sadoldgirl	Nov 2014	#140
pulling ahead in the primaries? strike one; pulling ahead of Jeb or Cruz? their campaign's doomed	MisterP	Nov 2014	#143
Down with $hillary, up with Liz!	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#150
As a Millennial can I ask if you watch Fusion TV and your opinion of it?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#154
Never heard of Fusion TV.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#156
Wyldwolf cited a millennial poll by Fusion TV	aspirant	Nov 2014	#161
One anonymous DUer confirms your suspicions	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#168
Awareness	aspirant	Nov 2014	#171
Something you have very little of regarding this topic	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#172
I wouldn't bother responding to Mr. Wolf	MannyGoldstein	Nov 2014	#183
Ah, another true believer	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#202
Wolfie it's better than your opinion	aspirant	Nov 2014	#206
Aspy why are you a science denier?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#208
Wolfie, will you risk your life on a poll?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#220
Global warming isn't a myth. Why say that?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#221
Wolfie, is your life more important than a poll?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#223
Is this how you were trained to talk at Liberty University	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#255
Science of liberty. will you risk your life on guesses?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#331
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#333
Is there light behind the argument?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#222
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#306
Science of believing in polls, is your life worth more than a guess?	aspirant	Nov 2014	#335
why are you on DU if you don't believe in global warming?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#336
I voted for Sanders, Warren and O'Malley in that order	Raul Hernandez	Nov 2014	#176
I still support Hillary.	hrmjustin	Nov 2014	#235
Will the turd way Dems vote for Liz? or not vote?	L0oniX	Nov 2014	#240
Name a single Democrat who has said they wouldn't vote for Warren as Dem nominee...	brooklynite	Nov 2014	#354
Can't. Nobody has said that.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#371
I would like to see all 3 run	bigwillq	Nov 2014	#276
No Democratic Candidate can win without the youth vote	Aerows	Nov 2014	#315
Nice	Droning Predator	Nov 2014	#325
I take it DFA has deep pocket.	NCTraveler	Nov 2014	#359
So the only two people thinking about running are tied in this poll.	NCTraveler	Nov 2014	#364
I voted Sanders in that poll. n/t	PowerToThePeople	Nov 2014	#372

Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:11 AM

Warren, Sanders beat Hillary in poll of DFA members

1. Sanders/Warren would make a nice ticket.

137. I Saw This

287. Warren 2016 - I grew up in a GOP household. Now, none of them are Republican.

2. No one has told them she's inevitable, yet?

3. Warren double digits over Hillary. Sanders came in second.

127. Sanders got the "Colbert Bump" this week, and the crowd already knew and loved him.

177. Yep. Exactly

4. Liberals need to get the ground campaign going.

24. It should have been started 3 yrs ago.

37. You could've saved time and just said "lazy hippies".

74. Your comment proves you've never met a real hippie.

80. i think you misread nt

84. I didn't mention hippies in my post. Yet the poster felt to need to make il-informed assumptions

96. you're correct and I am the one who misread

90. What I don't get is why some supposed moderates are so anti-democratic.

190. democrats against democracy

370. As if Stalinist purges are in the Democratic Party tradition.

204. Hear, Here!

89. You sure seem to have a lot of stored hatred for liberals, baldguy

92. And for democracy as well.

97. Not at all. Just phonys who claim to be liberals.

99. So... Anyone who doesn't share your candidate is a "phony liberal"?

106. A "phony liberal" is anyone who works to defeat the Dem nom even before they're nominated

120. There's no dem nom until after the primary

138. That's Stupid

152. So, you're advocating the use of Tea Party tactics in the Democratic Party.

160. Its shining a light on the truth. Exposing, not purging. ~nt

169. I'm sure that's how Stalin put it, too.

285. Pogrom?

365. Don't Put Words In My Mouth

369. I'm not putting words in your mouth. You've got Karl Rove to do that.

388. That Sounds Stupider Than Anything Ive Read Yet

389. Except that Karl Rove was one of the people orchastrating the attacks on the Clintons

390. BS

391. It's all theater to divide us. You're a major performer in that theater. At least on DU.

392. Good Luck With That Viewpoint

178. And you describe Hillary Clinton and her fans perfectly

367. Hillary's fans aren't the ones calling for purges. The phoney "liberals" are.

373. It's the other way around.

374. Someone hasn't been paying attention.

375. Thats because we do not consider Secretary Clinton a viable candidate

376. Well, let's just have a few primaries & see.

377. Fine, let's have a primary - I guarantee you this: Ms. Clinton will lose every caucus and primaries

378. If you believe that, then you've swallowed the RW Rovian lies hook, line & sinker.

380. Purges

381. "Liberals" advocating purges believe that they can't gain support in the party through other means.

382. Did You Even Read My Post?

383. Not liberals; but "liberals". Note the difference.

384. Repeating Myself

385. You replied to my post, and you seem to taking an opposing side.

386. Anti-Democratic?

366. So... yes, whoever doesn't fancy the candidate you favor is a "phony liberal"

368. What I favor is a Democratic victory. If Sanders joins the Party & wins the nom, I'll vote for him.

98. I think it's always a good idea -- when casting generalized aspersions, and proclaiming

102. Hillary started running the day she resigned as Sec of State, and Warren isn't running at all.

110. The odds are purportedly very good that almost any Dem can win in 2016

179. Uh. Exploratory group? Announcements to the link...

180. Link? Proof?

187. Warren has stated repeatedly that she is not running for President.

191. I *AM* not talking about Warren....

194. Are you under the impression that Hillary isn't running?

207. I am not under impression on anything. She hasn't announced her candidacy or formed an exploratory

289. You and I agree

128. Three years ago we were trying to reelect Obama

130. The RW Republicans began looking for a populist conservative candidate in 1964.

5. Maybe Hillary can be Secretary of State. :)

6. I see this as good news.

7. I'm fairly confident they'll win polls at DU and Kos, too

8. I seriously hope Jerry Brown runs.

9. Finally, some reality in the press. We don't want Hillary!!!!!

11. This article is 'reality' insofar as it shows what a percentage of DFA members prefer.

12. How are 'Public opinion surveys" scientically factual and not full of caveats?

17. Polling is done by a random sampling of registered and/or likely voters

27. Progressives speak.

29. In a closed poll for members only

35. A poll is a poll is a poll.

36. that is ridiculously naive

42. Trying to figure out your skewed thinking reminds me of trying to figure out rethugs' thinking.

44. They polled DFA members who happen to be Democrats (well, mostly I guess)

191. I AM not talking about Warren....