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Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:31 PM

 

Climate Change Is God's Way. We Must Bow To God's Will.

My header is the religious right's meme on climate change. Whatever happens is God's will. He has better plans for us. So if you get hammered by disaster it is God's will and you must accept why you were smitten.

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Reply Climate Change Is God's Way. We Must Bow To God's Will. (Original post)
TheMastersNemesis Nov 2014 OP
Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #1
TheMastersNemesis Nov 2014 #2
liberal N proud Nov 2014 #3
msongs Nov 2014 #4
hifiguy Nov 2014 #5
el_bryanto Nov 2014 #8
hifiguy Nov 2014 #10
longship Nov 2014 #11
hifiguy Nov 2014 #13
Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #6
MindPilot Nov 2014 #7
RKP5637 Nov 2014 #9
dawg Nov 2014 #12

Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:32 PM

1. Climate change is God's way of saying we fucked up and need to do something to clean up the mess. nt

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:34 PM

2. I Know But The Fundies Don't Believe That Unfortunately.

 

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:34 PM

3. Fundies always like to play the punishment game so use this...

It may be God's punishment for treating his earth so terribly. If we change our ways, then the climate may change for the better as well.

You have to use their logic on them, it is the only way to counter morons who will not otherwise listen to reason.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:43 PM

4. like, god sent that tornado, be grateful nt

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:44 PM

5. I long for the day when humanity finally outgrows

 

its childish insistence on believing Iron Age middle-eastern superstitions. I hope the day comes before belief in those idiot superstitions leads to the destruction of our species. But I am not holding my breath.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:01 PM

8. Do you think that DU believers are idiots or childish? nt

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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:13 PM

10. Depends on what they believe.

 

Nearly every significant philosophy, including many that are secular, such as Buddhism and Confucianism, has expressed the basic thought of treat others as you would wish to be treated. Follow that. The rest is just invented, obfuscation, justification and dogma.

I am a big fan of Sam Harris and the late physicist/philosopher Victor Stenger, Stenger's God - The Failed Hypothesis lays out all the reasons and physics explaining why a god is neither likely nor necessary. His reasoning is flawlessly logical and supported by the science.

I am a hopelessly logical and evidence-based thinker - I am Asperger's. But if people want to believe in something "out there" as Jefferson observed it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. A lot of believers are peaceable and reasonable people who try to live according to the above maxim. I spend zero time worrying about those people. But many others are not.

The inescapable problem is that the "holy books" are all soaked in the blood of innocents, non-believers and other-believers. Exterminating those inconvenient folks as a matter of purifying and propagating the "true faith" is woven into the woof and warp of those books. Which will provide justification for religious war as long as those books are looked to as some authoritative guide to the way humans should act. It is time to move on.

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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:20 PM

11. No! Merely uneducated.

Belief in gods == belief in bologna.

Evidence here:

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Response to longship (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:25 PM

13. Love me some Futurama

 

Will always give it a

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:51 PM

6. Speaks to an incompetant and/or malignant deity. Or, belief in such.

 

The only way to reconcile science and religion is to set up something which is not science and something that is not religion. H.L. Mencken

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:59 PM

7. But why?

 

Why do I get smitten when it is my co-worker driving the hummer?

Is God's intention that I do a little smiting by proxy?

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:12 PM

9. Often the religious love punishment. It's all god's will, such an endless cop out from taking

effective action and responsibility for a better future for all. Instead, they go pray. What a cop out from reality.


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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:23 PM

12. "You know what else is God's will?"

Then I smack them on the forehead, really really hard!

"This!"

"It just happened, didn't it? Must be God's will!"

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