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Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 03:32 PM Nov 2014

Yes Democratic strategy sucked in 2014. it was an odd election, now it's over.

Think of every sports metaphor you remember about playing not to lose, and how those who play that way usually do just that. On the national level, on the media message level, it was all about holding onto Senate seats in red states and trying to avoid anything that might spook centrist to center right voters into handing the Senate over to the Republican Party. Surprise surprise, it didn't work. This election Democratic Party leaders was conspicuously silent when it came to crowing about any progressive stands apart from reproductive rights. That daring departure no doubt rested on demographic research that concluded more women vote than men and even states like Mississippi reject personhood amendments. Democrats this year couldn't distinguish a clarion call from a noon whistle when it came to rallying voters.

This year they adapted a prevent defense for a game geared toward red state fields, forgetting perhaps that even with its obvious flaws a prevent defense only makes a smattering of sense if you already hold a clear lead. I suppose they were counting the number of incumbent Senate seats they could afford to give up and still cling on for a "victory" by running out the clock

2016 will look nothing like 2014. Americans turn out in presidential election years, and next time around it will be Republicans having to worry about holding on to seats they hold in ideologically unfavorable terrain. In 2016 it will be ideological war, and Republicans won't shy away from it because they know they have no real defense other than a strong offense.Democrats damn well better fight this time.

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Yes Democratic strategy sucked in 2014. it was an odd election, now it's over. (Original Post) Tom Rinaldo Nov 2014 OP
Hi, Tom. elleng Nov 2014 #1
Hi back at ya! n/t Tom Rinaldo Nov 2014 #2
It ain't over until new strategy is in place. Orsino Nov 2014 #3
Its gonna take more than fundraising E-mails and do-nothing online petitions to win it back in 2016. Erose999 Nov 2014 #4
Well, I agree, but I think they made a strategic choice to do just that last time Tom Rinaldo Nov 2014 #5
if it is an "ideological war" hfojvt Nov 2014 #6
I see you noticed that little "problem" Tom Rinaldo Nov 2014 #7
Yes, that has been the problem for awhile though with varying degrees. stillwaiting Nov 2014 #8
I would Rec this post if I could. n/t Tom Rinaldo Nov 2014 #10
What strategy? A few weeks before the election I couldn't buy interest on this forum. What was our ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #9

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
4. Its gonna take more than fundraising E-mails and do-nothing online petitions to win it back in 2016.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 04:03 PM
Nov 2014

DWS should step down as DNC chair. Its time to get a real strategy so we can be competitive with progressive candidates in as many states as possible.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
5. Well, I agree, but I think they made a strategic choice to do just that last time
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 04:26 PM
Nov 2014

They didn't want to rile up anyone, they wanted to keep all of the races "local" in focus without any national agenda getting in the way. They were counting on that people usually like and want to keep their good old familiar incumbents even when they want all the rest of the bums thrown out. Democrats were afraid of issues this year, Howard Dean is right. They thought they could frighten the base into turning out through a stealth internet campaign while convincing "middle of the roaders" that each of the individual Republican opponents were "out of touch' with that state's electorate. But by doing that rather than having a real debate on issues that matter, they only proved that the Democrats were out of touch.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
7. I see you noticed that little "problem"
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 04:40 PM
Nov 2014

Democrats have been running away from ideology for years now while Republicans have been embracing it. The 2014 election was a low point for Democrats in regards to standing for anything.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
8. Yes, that has been the problem for awhile though with varying degrees.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:17 PM
Nov 2014

And, that's not over.

If the Democratic Party stays the way it has been (for the most part) for the past few decades, then one day they will still get power back. But, that is only because the Republicans will massively screw up things again on so very many different fronts. Then, when the Dems regain power, if they haven't changed their priorities, things will NOT get better for average Americans and the masses will put the Republicans back in power for another leg down.

We MUST reform the Democratic Party now, and that will take a lot of work. So, 2014 is far from over. I'd say it's a problem that's been ongoing for several decades now, and we have a lot of work to do to remake the Democratic Party in to a party that works for average Americans again. It's a tragedy that the Democratic Party only held on to Congress for a few years after what the Republican Party did to this nation, but the Democratic Party has itself to blame in large part. The problem is that the Democratic agents that have remade this Party have become filthy rich doing so, and we will have to take the Leadership back from them. The Democratic Party is the ONLY hope currently for average Americans, but so many of them don't believe in them anymore. It's a damn shame.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
9. What strategy? A few weeks before the election I couldn't buy interest on this forum. What was our
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:18 PM
Nov 2014

strategy? "We're the good guys!" - that was the only thing close to a "strategy" I saw from our far-from-united party.

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