How much of a head start does Hillary have on her potential GOP opponents? Virtually insurmountable

[stevenleser]

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh16gen.htm

So those folks saying "OMG!!!!111!11!! Hillary can't beat (X Republican candidate) !!!!11!11!!!!!!11elevens... have no idea what they are talking about.

[hobbit709]

1. Still isn't enough to make me enthused about Clinton.

[stevenleser]

2. You are already accounted for in the 41%. We have 51%. We'll be fine. nt

[hobbit709]

3. Let's see how things look in a year and a half.

[Populist_Prole]

20. I'm curious myself to see what happens

My hunch is that she'll say all the right things economic populist-wise while campaigning....stuff we want to hear, but actually govern center-right.

Still better than any republican IMO though.

[zipplewrath]

22. Nice of you to treat the 41% like Mitt thought of the 47%

Nice to know you don't care about 41% of the party.

[rhett o rick]

41. "We'll be fine" Maybe you will. Goldman-Sachs will be ecstatic, Wall Street will celebrate for

eight years, the fricking-frackers will party like there's no tomorrow (there won't be for our ground water). The Ruling Oligarchs will be fine. The 99% will continue their slide into feudalism. Yeah, you'll be fine.

[Autumn]

4. It's early yet, much can happen between now and then as anyone knows

[rhett o rick]

45. I love polls. What the poll left out was that the same 51% that think HRC will make

a good president also said (I'm pretty sure) that Sen Warren would make a better president.

[bravenak]

5. There hasn't even been a primary.

She was going to win last time too.

[cali]

6. this mentality couldn't be more dangerous.

you know what they say about a week in politics. anyone who thinks that hillary can't be beat is delusional and none too swift. she's demonstrated that she can be beat and she's a terrible campaigner.

[rhett o rick]

42. And never underestimate the Bush Crime Family. Just sayin'. nm

[Ykcutnek]

7. People who push that narrative are either full of shit or

believe if they put a picture of Bernie Sanders under their pillow, they'll wake up to a $100 bill.

[leftofcool]

8. Didn't you get the memo?

HRC is a third wayer, backstabbing, not liberal enough, not progressive enough, job killing, stinkin "not a real Democrat' who could never win an election against Cruz/Christie/Paul/Bush/Perry.

[SolutionisSolidarity]

9. I see the party apparatchik's cannot admit their failure.

Go ahead, rally around Hillary the inevitable. Sure, polling data 2 years out reflects actual electorate advantage and not name recognition/nostalgia. We'll still be here in 2017, wondering how Jeb Bush or Chris Christie became president. By then I suppose it will be Cuomo's turn. After all, when Hillary loses, it can only mean she was too left wing...

[L0oniX]

16. Their path is well worn.

[Marr]

47. They're more loyal to their political faction than their political party.

We've seen them prove it several times quite openly, with conservative Democrats backing Republicans over liberal Democrats. I really do think that, most of the time, they'd prefer a Republican gain the seat if the only other option is a liberal.

[Wellstone ruled]

10. This is what the Rethugs were planning on

and let the fun begin. You can bet the farm on every move by the Thugs from here on. A scenario will emerge from several Red States were there is little to none opposition by Democrats. Looking at Utah,Idaho,Nevada,and Arizona. Saying this because of will be key committee Chair Persons. If you have followed the Western States so called Press,the game plan is very evident. Huge changes coming for Social Welfare programs,gutted or killed off totally,and their excuse,we have a mandate. Sound familiar.

[MannyGoldstein]

11. She's as unstoppable as she was in 2008

And when you add all of her breakthroughs as SoS that I can't remember right now, to her many other triumphs that I also can't remember right now, to her overarching strategy of emphasizing women's rights that worked so well for Democrats last week, to her love of war, to...

Well, she's a shoe-in.

[bahrbearian]

21. Bengazi!

[onehandle]

12. I was a the Philly Bike Expo today and a 20 year old woman was wearing a Hillary t-shirt.

I keep seeing Hillary bumperstickers on cars.

No sign of Jeb, Christie, Paul, Perry, or any Democratic potential candidate, on any bumper at all.

[rhett o rick]

43. Well DAmn! We might as well call it now. The 20 year old with a tee-shirt is proof positive. nm

[hay rick]

13. Head start yes, insurmountable no.

The Republican money machine and the captive media can do wonders.

[n2doc]

14. Well, we will see if a billion dollars in dark money will change that

Because that is the bid. Ante up!

[morningfog]

15. I just hope all the vocal Clinton supporters

put in the work for whomever the actual nominee ends up being.

[nomorenomore08]

33. I rec'd the OP, but I agree with you. And personally I'd much rather have Warren. n/t

[Marr]

49. Oh, they won't.

I expect most would feel that old Reagan Democrat nerve tingling and go GOP before they'd vote for someone like Sanders.

[Skidmore]

17. Steve, Hillary first has to make it

through the primary season. And I hope she is opposed.

[Nye Bevan]

18. Yeah, and I remember when none of the Democratic "heavy hitters" wanted to challenge Bush Sr,

who supposedly had an insurmountable lead in the wake of a successful first Iraq war. Nobody gave Clinton much of a chance with his womanizing reputation.

I am a Hillary supporter but 2 years is an eternity in politics.

[hatrack]

19. So you better just shut up and get on board NOW . . .

. . .with the candidate who hasn't declared against an opponent as yet undetermined in a race still two years off.

And if you don't, you'll make Debbie Wasserman Schultz's puppy cry!

[bahrbearian]

23. All is Lost !

[bahrbearian]

24. Take that to fox news and listen to them howl..

in laughter.

[cascadiance]

25. The only thing I conclude is that the 1% wants us to say it is inevitable that we have a 1% leader!

Since they are only putting forth options here for the presidency that support Corporate America which likely is by design here.

I wonder what would happen if they threw Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders on this list. Of course even Obama had only half of Clinton's support only a year out from the election rather than two years out from the election, so timing wise, this poll is probably also pretty meaningless, when name recognition and lack of knowledge of who might run pretty much pollutes such polls.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

26. Right. Because never in the entire history of the world...

has the one with the head start ever lost. 2008 ringing a bell?

And don't assume she'll win because she's a woman. A lot of women don't like her. And they don't like the "War on Women" angle -- it was a loser in 2014.

[marmar]

27. Who cares?

Perhaps Dems need to deal with more immediate problems instead of reveling in glories that haven't happened.

[99Forever]

28. ...

[JEB]

29. I'm more worried about her policies than her electability.

[JEB]

30. Republicans wouldn't mind losing to Hilary.

[DavidDvorkin]

31. It wasn't that long ago that the Democrats had a lock on both houses of Congress

When the GOP shut down the government, polls indicated that 2014 would be a Democratic wave election. Polls can change quickly.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

32. I don't care if she can beat Mike Tyson in a cage fight. I'm still not going to vote for her.

[rhett o rick]

44. I couldn't have said it any better. nm

[morningfog]

34. Hillary is at her apex. She cannot gain any more support. She can only lose support over the

next two years.

This is not the kind of candidate we need. We need someone who can keep building enough support to actually win.

Hillary, a completely known and polarized candidate, cannot gain on her 51%. Her margin of error is about 1 % and that is too close. She will get a very short bump when she officially announces and will steadily bleed support through the rest of the campaign (with predictable but insignificant bumps at key events).

[Dawgs]

35. In 2006 Obama wasn't on any list for potential presidential candidates.

The OP is stupid.

[stevenleser]

37. ABC News and Pew had the 2012 election polled correctly. They are the most accurate. nt

[former9thward]

46. Two years in advance?

What were their polls in 2010 showing for 2012?

[stevenleser]

52. They're polling 0 years, 0 months and 0 days in advance on this poll. It's a poll of right now. nt

[Rex]

38. Hillary can beat the pants off of any GOP candidate, get them dry cleaned

and have them back on the GOP loser before they even notice. They have no chance against her in 2016 imo.

[rhett o rick]

40. Starting the gloat already? Celebrating the continuation of the disastrous Conservative Agenda.

A couple of things. One, never count out the Bush Crime Family. Things seem to happen. While H. Clinton-Sachs is ok with the Oligarch Rulers, they would prefer Jeb (Babs favorite).

Second, if we thought that the last election had a weak turnout, wait 'til you see Oligarch Thing 1 vs. Oligarch Thing 2.

C. Gloat all you want but the middle class will suffer under another Clinton/Wall Street Administration. You'll be gloating with the Oligarchs.

Of course the Oligarch's media will support H. Clinton-Sachs, but they left off the question in their poll, "Will Sen Warren make a better President than H. Clinton-Sachs?" 86% of Democrats said yes while 90% of Republicans said no. (you heard it here first)

[Marr]

48. I'll just leave this here.

Sorry-- it's a little old:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1011/p08s01-comv.html

[bhikkhu]

50. I voted for Obama twice, and would be happy to have the opportunity to vote for Hillary

...all the hatred here is dismaying, and I don't know how it got so bad (seldom are there any details), but I think she would make a fine president. If someone else with more popular support came along and won the primary, I'd vote for them instead, but really its about a united front to me - as a party we have to make sense, and we have to stand for something. I don't have any problem with the values of anyone in the party, really, now that Leiberman is gone.

[djean111]

51. So, in addition to "why have a primary, Hillary is the ONLY possible choice" tone of sentiment -

why even have a general election? Evidently she's got it in the bag!

[JEB]

53. She's the first to snuggle with Henry Fucking Kissinger.

She's got the war criminal vote locked down.

[customerserviceguy]

54. While she will not inspire the base

She has enough pull with the mushy middle to get elected. I cannot be sure if she has any 'coattails', or whatever it is that a pantsuit trails.

In fact, I fully expect the Repukes to run ads along the lines of "Make sure you vote for a Senator/Representative who can neutralize Hillary Clinton, who your fellow Americans will be stupid enough to vote into office." It's going to work well in a lot of red, and even some purple areas of the country.