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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:29 PM

Democratic Party Stands to Lose Youth Vote

This should be a dramatic wake up call that we need dramatic re-organization and a new emphasis on populist policies and to fully embrace issues like cannabis legalization and even drug decriminalization.

http://iop.harvard.edu/likely-millennial-voters-grabs-upcoming-midterm-elections-harvard-youth-poll-finds

"While more 18- to 29- year-olds (50%-43%) surveyed in the IOP’s fall 2014 poll would prefer that Congress be controlled by Democrats instead of Republicans, the numbers improve dramatically for the GOP when only young people who say they will “definitely vote” are studied. Among these likely voters, the IOP’s latest poll shows the preference shifting, with slightly more than half (51%) preferring a Republican-run Congress and 47 percent wanting Democrats to be in charge – a significant change from the IOP’s last midterm election poll in the fall of 2010 when Democratic control was preferred among likely voters 55 percent to 43 percent"

The youth vote is NOT guaranteed to be Democratic and as it stands the Democratic party has squandered their initial advantage in this area. Orthodoxy is not working and the more people cling to it the more the party will find itself irrelevant.

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Reply Democratic Party Stands to Lose Youth Vote (Original post)
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 OP
JaneyVee Nov 2014 #1
1000words Nov 2014 #2
bravenak Nov 2014 #3
Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #6
VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #28
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #38
VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #43
erpowers Nov 2014 #4
Dwayne Hicks Nov 2014 #7
erpowers Nov 2014 #9
Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #10
Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #14
Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #20
global1 Nov 2014 #8
LeftInTX Nov 2014 #17
VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #29
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #15
Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #22
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #24
VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #30
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #35
VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #36
Spazito Nov 2014 #57
upaloopa Nov 2014 #5
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #11
Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #13
KamaAina Nov 2014 #16
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #18
Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #23
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #26
VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #32
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #34
upaloopa Nov 2014 #56
Spazito Nov 2014 #58
Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #12
kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #19
calimary Nov 2014 #59
0rganism Nov 2014 #21
VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #33
KMOD Nov 2014 #25
liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #27
treestar Nov 2014 #31
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #37
treestar Nov 2014 #39
Historic NY Nov 2014 #40
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #41
liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #42
Historic NY Nov 2014 #44
KMOD Nov 2014 #45
liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #46
Historic NY Nov 2014 #47
liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #48
Historic NY Nov 2014 #50
liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #53
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #49
liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #51
Historic NY Nov 2014 #52
liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #54
GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #55

Response to BlindTiresias (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:31 PM

1. What youth vote?

 

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Response to 1000words (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:43 PM

3. They show up when he's on the ballot.

 

Funny hw we only get our asses handed to us when he's NOT on the ballot.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:48 PM

6. That is true.

 

The Dems who lost their seats last night got there riding his coattails in 2008.

And lost in 2014 by jumping off.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:48 PM

28. fair weather friends....

 

they will get theirs....unfortunately the rest of us have to suffer their punishment with them...

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:01 PM

38. That is a whole group you are talking about

And one kind of critical to the future of the party. May not want to engage in apocalyptic fantasies there.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #38)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:09 PM

43. and?

 

we are not talking some time in the distant future...we are talking during the next two years here.....

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Response to BlindTiresias (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:46 PM

4. Talk About Jobs

I do not think Democrats need to get behind canabis legalization and drug decriminalization. They need to talk about finding a way to help young people get better jobs and better paying jobs. They also need to come up with policies that put the United States back on track for young people to do better than their parents. Finally, they need to talk about ways to help young people get better educations that are less expensive and lead to good paying and high paying jobs.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:48 PM

7. Why not back both?

 

Seems like both are winning issues with younger voters.

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Response to Dwayne Hicks (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:00 PM

9. They Can, But

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Democrats can back both. I just do not think it is that important to back Cannabis legalization and drug decriminalization. I do not think a lack for support for Cannabis is the main reason the Democrats may be at risk of losing the youth vote. I think that has more to do with their frustration due to the lack of good jobs, the thought that they will not do as well in life as their parents, and their high college debt load without well paying jobs. I think Democrats should focus more on improving the economic well-being of young people.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:46 PM

10. Ya I'll tell the thousands of people unjustly serving sentences

You just don't think it's important.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:08 PM

14. You don't? I do.

A majority of Americans favor legalization, now. 4 states and counting have legalized.

Democrats on the West Coast have figured out which way things are headed. The beltway is clueless, as usual.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:21 PM

20. Yesterday Oregon voted to legalize cannabis for recreational use. Also reelected a Democratic US

 

Senator and 4 Democratic House Reps, a Democratic Governor, passed an Equal Rights Amendment for our State Constitution.....and most of the people on DU are complaining that their neighbors did not vote and that Republicans won.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:58 PM

8. Student Loan Debt Needs To Be Addressed....

So many of our youth are so burdened by student loans they are behind before they even start their career and life. How do you raise a family? How do you buy a house?

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Response to global1 (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:11 PM

17. Totally agree

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Response to global1 (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:50 PM

29. Mine certainly do....but I won't hold my breath now....

 

thats fucking out the window now....

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Response to erpowers (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:09 PM

15. A proper populism

Would likely entail debt relief, economic stimulus aimed at the working and middle class, the cessation of the drug war and at the very least cannabis legalization, and some kind of housing initiative or a robust program to control rents and help the 25-35 crowd become homeowners.

Education reform should also likely be on the table, including making public universities free of charge.

Ignore gun control wedge traps, gay marriage has enough inertia to let the special interest groups finish the victory, and don't get mired in culture war BS.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:25 PM

22. Most of this country offers zero protection from discrimination in employment and housing for LGBT

 

people. So fuck your inertia. Until you right wing religious types drop your hate and make good on the Constitutional promise of equal protection under the law for all, your lack of effort to make change will continue to cost you votes, voters and Seats in Congress.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:42 PM

24. I'm not a right wing religious type?

I feel you misunderstand what I mean. Dems should support LGBT issues but make whether it is at the forefront of their campaigns regionally based and I think the other economic and social issues need to be at the forefront for the time being.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:50 PM

30. Thanks for your input Indpendent voter....

 

its sooooo helpful!

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:58 PM

35. Thank you

I'm glad you find it helpful, it seems many other agree. Together we can improve the Democratic party!

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #35)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:59 PM

36. apparently your facetious meter is off....need to recalibrate it...

 

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:48 PM

57. Yeah, that thought is familiar...

civil rights are important BUT they go to the back of the bus until we deal with all these other issues. Interestingly, those who think that way always find more OTHER issues to sit in the front of the bus.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:47 PM

5. What youth vote?

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:02 PM

11. Not a good attitude to have

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:05 PM

13. Don't worry about it. It's DU.

Otherwise known as the internet home for "My Grandchildren Never Call, I still have an AOL email address, and I can't program this VCR"

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:10 PM

16. I believe the poster is referring to the abysmal youth turnout

 

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:12 PM

18. Yep

A bad turnout now does not mean a bad turnout forever and disregarding the youth because they don't turn out and making no effort to appeal to them is a great way to have them be turned over to the right wing who is actively courting them via right libertarianism.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:37 PM

23. Our Statewide turnout was 70%. Democratic victory all over the place. Legalized cannabis.

 

But then again, we are not atavistic, hate mongering semi-Republicans.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:44 PM

26. So things are fine with the party and all is well?

yeah, I think the current situation defies your optimism.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:52 PM

32. No thanks to you and your ilk....you were OH soooooo Optimistic until this point!

 

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:57 PM

34. No I wasn't optimistic

Because I saw this kicking we received months ago while you were mainlining Unicorn glitter into your veins and would mutter nonsense in a hallucinatory daze.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:42 PM

56. That was not a good post that I put up there.

I was a bit pissed to see the youth vote drop this election cycle. Maybe we aren't paying enough attention to their problems.
Personally I care a lot that young people today have a harder time getting ahead than I did. I think it is because of conservative and corporate policies.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #56)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:55 PM

58. Isn't it time the 'youth' realized they need to step up to the plate instead of...

sitting back and waiting until they receive a gift-wrapped package at their door? The youth that participated in the Freedom Rides didn't sit back waiting for someone else to deliver their gift-wrapped package, they put their very lives on the line to make a difference. Change doesn't come on a 'wish and a prayer', it comes from actually working for change, working hard for incremental change, a lesson today's youth, by and large, have yet to learn, imo.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:14 PM

19. And the Hispanic vote if not careful. nt

 

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 6, 2014, 12:59 AM

59. I think we take these two voting blocs for granted AT OUR PERIL.

I hope the Dems fire up about this.

And they can give DEBBIE the heave-ho, too, while they're at it. I think we can well expect her not to care all that much, or pay that much attention, on the road ahead. She's been pretty damn tone-deaf, and has two midterm shellackings on her credit. Howard Dean anyone? He got us a midterm election back in 2006 that was FABULOUS, and gave us SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE PELOSI, too.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:24 PM

21. we'll see how they feel after 2 years of GOP senate control

i think they'll find they can't blame Obama for everything, and the preferences shift back our way by 2016

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Response to 0rganism (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:52 PM

33. they will get their come to jesus moment soon enough....

 

buyers remorse in 3....2.....1`

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Response to BlindTiresias (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:43 PM

25. I'm in a deep blue area of NY

 

so most of the millennials I know are liberal minded.

What they want are, jobs, lower tuitions, lower student loan rates, LGBT rights, an end to the war on drugs, and they are concerned about climate change. Those are the issues on their minds.

Talk about and address these issues, and they will vote.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:46 PM

27. The federal and state governments need to start funding universities again. Also we need

a living wage and we need to rebuild our unions. Legalizing marijuana wouldn't hurt but it really is the economic issues that will either turn out the youth vote or keep them at home.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:51 PM

31. You would like that?

Never going to happen.

The thing that makes people right wingers is age.

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Response to treestar (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:00 PM

37. I'm actually not sure the research can lead to that conclusion

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #37)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:02 PM

39. Well if the youth vote Republican too

Then society has gone really really conservative. I'd hate to live in that country. Fortunately I do not think we do.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:02 PM

40. If only they had a VOTER APP...

they are too concerned with themselves. You know what would wake them up is mandatory national service or a draft.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #40)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:02 PM

41. Good attitude

Will win them over for sure.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #40)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:06 PM

42. yes lets blame the ones with tens of thousand of dollars in school loan debt. Sure let's blame the

ones who can't get a job and when they do get a job it is temporary and low wage. Let's blame them. Because it sure as hell couldn't be the party's fault could it?

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:10 PM

44. Well apparently they aren't paying attention...

I paid my own college loans off working nickle and dime jobs. And they have tens of thousands in debt because?

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #44)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:13 PM

45. Have you seen tuitions costs lately?

 

Harder to pay them off with nickel and dime jobs.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #44)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:14 PM

46. You obviously have no clue how much things have changed. The federal and state governments have

drastically reduced how much they fund universities. Cost of tuition has skyrocketed. It costs $30,000 a year to attend The University of Washington. Did it cost that much for you to attend college?

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #46)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:16 PM

47. State Colleges are just find...I drove 62 miles one way..

3 x a week for my masters.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #47)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:20 PM

48. The University of Washington is a state college. College is un-affordable. Plain and simple.

It should not cost over $100,000 to go to a state college, and it wouldn't if federal and state governments would start increasing funding to universities.

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:28 PM

50. Washington a liberal state who would have thought...

perhaps if it was more progressive. Thinking it going to happen now before you graduate is a dream. Obama tried to reform some of the student loan programs but w/o congressional help it will not happen.

http://www.newpaltz.edu/financialaid/tuition.cfm most liberal college in NY state

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #50)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:32 PM

53. That is not the point. The point is the Democrats don't put up enough of a fight.

I would rather elect a politician who is willing to fight for me and my children and not get anything passed than someone who does not fight and gets republican light policies passed. Obama did redirect some federal loans from the private banks back to federal lenders, but he also agreed to tie the interest rate to prime interest rates. That is disastrous. We cannot afford those kind of compromises. We need politicians who will fight.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #44)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:25 PM

49. Face of the Democratic party Old Guard, folks!

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #49)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:28 PM

51. yeah I'm getting pretty tired of all the Millinneal bashing tonight. Boy people will blame anybody

except those who deserve the blame, the candidates themselves.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #49)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:29 PM

52. The old guard votes...you did get that didn't you.

that why we lost and will keep losing.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #52)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:35 PM

54. They are not the reason we lost. The coward democratic politicians are the reason we lost.

I refuse to engage you anymore. You obviously know nothing about Millennials. I have a Millennial daughter who is currently in college and did vote, but I, her mother who has witnessed what thirty years of democrats compromising with republicans has gotten us, don't blame those who didn't vote.

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:37 PM

55. Smart kids will soon figure out ...

college is too expensive.
















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