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Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:13 PM

I have to fucking get this off my chest.

Fuck those lying, thieving, democracy destroying, psychopathic GOPers and the conservative SCOTUS and their citizens united, voting rights act, voter ID bullshit!

What the fuck is the matter with this nation? Things aren't getting better, they're getting worse, and as hard as we try and yell and cuss, no one is doing shit about all the criminality going on with the banks, politicians, and anyone that breaks the law as long as they're filthy rich.

I'm so fucking pissed off right now I can't see straight. My blood pressure is sky high. I need to take it easy.

I'm so sick and tired of being sick and tired! FUCK IT!!!

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Reply I have to fucking get this off my chest. (Original post)
Unknown Beatle Nov 2014 OP
Lifelong Protester Nov 2014 #1
mckara Nov 2014 #27
adirondacker Nov 2014 #30
alp227 Nov 2014 #36
lunasun Nov 2014 #37
Enthusiast Nov 2014 #98
billhicks76 Nov 2014 #141
cilla4progress Nov 2014 #41
Dustlawyer Nov 2014 #117
sorefeet Nov 2014 #143
Dustlawyer Nov 2014 #149
SammyWinstonJack Nov 2014 #2
Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #3
glinda Nov 2014 #9
hifiguy Nov 2014 #119
glinda Nov 2014 #121
BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2014 #44
mountain grammy Nov 2014 #67
Enthusiast Nov 2014 #99
DocMac Nov 2014 #100
jimlup Nov 2014 #4
zelduh Nov 2014 #82
Throd Nov 2014 #5
Unknown Beatle Nov 2014 #11
hfojvt Nov 2014 #6
nc4bo Nov 2014 #7
TimeToEvolve Nov 2014 #8
Gloria Nov 2014 #26
taught_me_patience Nov 2014 #10
Unknown Beatle Nov 2014 #13
Mr.Bill Nov 2014 #17
Gloria Nov 2014 #28
Old Codger Nov 2014 #38
Gloria Nov 2014 #45
Old Codger Nov 2014 #59
Gloria Nov 2014 #63
Old Codger Nov 2014 #86
INRVIZION Nov 2014 #34
elzenmahn Nov 2014 #50
KamaAina Nov 2014 #129
deurbano Nov 2014 #21
randys1 Nov 2014 #128
libtodeath Nov 2014 #12
jellen Nov 2014 #103
dfgrbac Nov 2014 #110
arcane1 Nov 2014 #126
DebJ Nov 2014 #14
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #15
jtuck004 Nov 2014 #22
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #47
jtuck004 Nov 2014 #68
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #70
dfgrbac Nov 2014 #112
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dfgrbac Nov 2014 #148
tabasco Nov 2014 #71
jtuck004 Nov 2014 #78
whathehell Nov 2014 #85
BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #116
Tsiyu Nov 2014 #16
Mr.Bill Nov 2014 #20
Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #29
Tsiyu Nov 2014 #32
INRVIZION Nov 2014 #43
Tsiyu Nov 2014 #49
Unknown Beatle Nov 2014 #62
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ConnorMarc Nov 2014 #23
SoLeftIAmRight Nov 2014 #24
cheezmaka Nov 2014 #31
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MissDeeds Nov 2014 #40
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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:17 PM

1. I am with you. I cannot believe

I live with half of this country being such mouth-breather idiots.

I think, for sake of my blood pressure, it's time to curl up with a good book and call it a night.

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Response to Lifelong Protester (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:25 AM

27. Gore Vidal Stated it Correctly: The United States of Amnesia!

 

Americans have gone to sleep, again, as they fritter away their Republic. Let's face it, most Americans are really stupid motherfuckers! (And, I rarely drop the f-bomb.)

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Response to mckara (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:29 AM

30. Common Core will finish it off.

Excellent movie BTW.

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Response to adirondacker (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:46 AM

36. Common Core? Why? Nt

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Response to adirondacker (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:47 AM

37. +1

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Response to mckara (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:08 PM

98. The f-bombs can be therapeutic.

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Response to mckara (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:12 PM

141. Our Leadership Is Corrupt

 

They sued with the 1% and don't support us raising hell in the streets. They were silent about Ferguson and OWS and bend over for NSA. What did you expect?

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Response to Lifelong Protester (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:52 AM

41. I just posted the same sentiment.

Any suggestions?

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #41)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:19 PM

117. The only thing I see we can do to break the stranglehold

that the rich and powerful have over our "so called" Democracy is to put everything we have into demanding/fighting for Publicly Funded Elections! We have to take away their ability to control the politicians we send to Washington. Outlaw campaign contributions and Super PACs. After that's done we bust up the big banks and the media oligopolies.
It's come down to voting for which one of their puppets gets to be the apparent leaders of our government and country. No matter who we vote for, they win, unless we get behind someone like Bernie Sanders. Most here still want to play the game and elect Hillary, a person on a first name basis with all of the power players. It will take more crap before they are fed up like the rest of us here are. I hope they don't wait too long to see the truth, our climate is not getting any better.

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #117)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:24 PM

143. You keep hammering this Dustlawyer

and I agree 100%. It will never ever change until we get the money out of the politics. But how do we get Bernie or Warren in control?? Our politicians have no shame, they know they are corrupt but don't care as long as the money flows.

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Response to sorefeet (Reply #143)

Fri Nov 7, 2014, 03:23 PM

149. We all need to keep hammering on this and letting Bernie know we are behind him.

He said that he needs to see that enough of us want this and support him.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:19 PM

3. Although this makes me lose the argument I'll say it anyway...The gop are reconstituted nazis

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Response to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:41 PM

9. and that is why they will shut everything down and take over.....permanently.

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Response to glinda (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:46 PM

119. They don't need to use the same methods, though the end results will be much the same.

 

Control mechanisms and media psyops are much more subtle now. They marginalize everything and everyone that doesn't serve their corporate vision bot by eliminating them but by making them invisible in the mass media.

They don't need concentration camps - they can already spy on everyone in the country.

They don't need death camps - they can passively cull the herd by making health care basically inaccessible to the "undesirables." Goldman can always engineer commodity shortages as necessary as an adjunct.

One similarity is that the militarized police are starting to look an awful lot like the Gestapo.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #119)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:10 PM

121. yup

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Response to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:54 AM

44. this is the one case where Godwin's Law does NOT apply.

Because they are. And the dickweeds voting for them are brainwashed idiots, bullies, and selfish, angry, scared lemmings who've lost the ability to think critically. They don't even understand the meaning of fact-checking.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #44)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:39 AM

67. Yes, yes, and yes!

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Response to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:09 PM

99. +1 You nailed it.

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Response to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:32 PM

100. You'll get no argument from me. nt

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:21 PM

4. agreed - I'm there too

To hear the fucking mainstream media call it - its like the end of the democratic party. I'm not watching the god damn box anymore tonight. I'm done with the fucking media until they come back to reality.

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Response to jimlup (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:21 AM

82. There is no real media. Only propagana.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:21 PM

5. I have lots of beer. Come on over.

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Response to Throd (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:54 PM

11. Thanks.

I need several cold ones, a coupla shots of tequila and a couple of scotch on the rocks. I'll worry about tomorrow in the morning.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:21 PM

6. dude

all you need is love

clearly there are large amounts of voters who disagree with you.

We need a better message than "yell and cuss"

Although tonight it is hard not to say FUCK with a tripple YUCK.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:24 PM

7. fuck.

just fuck.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:26 PM

8. if anyone of us has friends or acquaintances who extol these ignorant rethug beliefs..

now would be the time to shun them completely. as these are dire times.

the entire earth is turning to shit in a handbasket and yet they still refuse to evolve.

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Response to TimeToEvolve (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:25 AM

26. I have already done so...

My brother's family of religious freaks...I even told them off this summer.
And, they've been out of our will for a couple of years.

They have a couple of young men who are totally into the herd thing and don't have a clue...

They need to be slapped...

I wish Democrats would learn to FIGHT, too.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:44 PM

10. Move to California

 

Liberal and big enough that you don't really have to worry about the rest of the country. Have a beer and just relax a bit.

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Response to taught_me_patience (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:57 PM

13. It depends where

in California. LA, San Diego, and San Francisco real estate is extremely expensive.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:10 AM

17. Plenty of cheap housing in California.

Just get away from the coasts. And anywhere you live in California, you live in a state run by Democrats.

We could use some rain, though, or the whole country is going to find out where the food comes from.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:26 AM

28. Problem is, no water...

California has a big issue with that...

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Response to Gloria (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:47 AM

38. Try Oregon

 

Democrats here, water here reasonably priced land here away from coast and big cities...

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Response to Old Codger (Reply #38)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:54 AM

45. Yeah, but the climate will kill me

and the radioactive crap from Fukishima, isn't that still floating around in those parts?

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Response to Gloria (Reply #45)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:25 AM

59. Depends

 

I moved here from central Cal. little cooler in summer, little cooler in winter , more rain usually, no radiation in our little valley, some snow in winter but not a lot that is here and I am in the mountains most of lowlands don't get any snow at all. Overall is pretty mild climate... And no sales tax!

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Response to Old Codger (Reply #59)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:31 AM

63. Please tell me where this valley is...

My former doc moved to Oregon a couple years ago when she retired....wanted to be close to kids
in CA, but not in CA....

She moved to Medford...I may look there!~

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Response to Gloria (Reply #63)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:33 AM

86. North

 

Of Medford a ways, in Douglas county in the I-5 corridor but away from big cities. Medford gets less rain than we do and virtually no snow at all, but runs a little warmer in the summer,real estate is more expensive in Jackson and Josephine counties and property taxes are higher...

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:44 AM

34. Yep

NASA report today predicts California drought to cause food supply problems. You know if never a straight answer, I mean NASA said it then it's got to be true. True or a lie, I can't remember which.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:57 AM

50. Well...

...I live in the Central Valley, and used to live near the coast. Away from the LA/SF areas, you get into the Central Valley and the Mojave Desert regions, and there are areas that are just as beet-red as the Midwest (i.e. Fresno). Not to mention San Diego (a big military town) and parts of the wooded Northern region which has its share of white supremacy tucked in-between the Mary Jane groves.

Thank whatever higher power you or I believe in, however, that I live in California. I don't think I could take it much anywhere else - except OUTSIDE of the US.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:28 PM

129. Even along the coast

 

Mendocino and Humboldt are quite reasonable. And they don't call it the "Emerald Triangle" for nothing!

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:17 AM

21. Glad we bought our SF house in the 1980's, since we could never afford it now.

I think the rent for a one bedroom apartment averages almost $3000 per month!

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Response to taught_me_patience (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:27 PM

128. But it is so expensive. We have such tremendous inequality here and everywhere

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:57 PM

12. We need a real revolution

the fuckers lie and cheat their way around the law.

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Response to libtodeath (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:47 PM

103. A revolution sounds good.

But they have all the guns. What do we do about that?

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Response to jellen (Reply #103)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:57 PM

110. Do a peaceful revolution!

 

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Response to libtodeath (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:22 PM

126. We can start by getting the rest of the eligible voters into the damn booth!

 

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:59 PM

14. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. I just can't say it enough. n/t

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:01 AM

15. I've said it several times now

maybe it is time for leftists to leave the country en masse, or rather, to set up some collective funds and organization to help us all move. It is a historically validated alternative to revolution since that likely isn't happening anytime soon.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:18 AM

22. Lol. Why would anyone else want people who run away from their problems?

 

Looking for a national nursery where they can be cared for?

That's pretty funny...

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Response to jtuck004 (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:55 AM

47. I'm the child of recent immigrants

The US isn't the only nation on earth to admit people "running away from their problems".

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #47)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:39 AM

68. And here you are wanting to leave again. Not, perhaps, your best argument?

 

But whatever, enjoy. Travel is a great way to build the spirit, and I wish you well.

The rest of us have work to do.

bye.

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Response to jtuck004 (Reply #68)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:48 AM

70. What

People leave countries that are deteriorating all the time historically, many even leave before things are truly desperate. That you think the US population should not be able to do the same is pure jingoism, sorry.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #70)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:02 PM

112. Today you can't get beyond the reach of the USA!

 

Our corporations nearly have control of the whole world. This is exactly what Adolf wanted.

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Response to dfgrbac (Reply #112)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:14 PM

114. Well

if a lot of people left you would see US hegemony very quickly retreat due to a shrinking tax base, brain drain, ex-pats influencing more antagonistic relationships with the US in their host countries, and a general international attitude of the US being led by extremists. They can't maintain that level of hegemony and have a large portion of people leave simultaneously.

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #114)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:42 PM

148. You may be right, but

 

That does not solve the problems we face. That country with its radicals will still possess all these nuclear weapons. And there would not be enough sane people here to stop them!

We must stay and get this government of back under our control! There is only one way to do that in my opinion. We need to get majority voting opinion on the major issues destroying this country. We need the National Initiative!

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Response to jtuck004 (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:48 AM

71. Where do you think "Americans" came from?

 

Pick up a book sometime.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #71)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:07 AM

78. Uh, this book, did it mention that they killed the people who were here? Read that part? Who you

 

planning on murdering?

If that isn't your plan, you have to ask permission. I dare you to ask any nation right now if they want a bunch of fat, lazy Americans who want to run away from bullies, have no jobs, will need food, housing, medical care, cable, and lazy boy recliners, and whine incessantly about everyone else and how stupid they are not to agree with them and how much the new place will be when you get there.

The laughter from others will be deafening.

Remember the Billy Preston song..."You gotta have somethin' in order to be with me"? Virtually EVERY nation has standards. Meet them. I dare you.

This ain't 1492, Columbus. You can't just go doing whatever you want to whomever you want.

What are you, an American?

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Response to jtuck004 (Reply #78)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:46 AM

85. and we were the only ones to do that, right?



Read something on the arrival of Europeans in Australia and other "immigrant" nations

before trotting out that tired old guilt trip again.



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Response to jtuck004 (Reply #78)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:19 PM

116. Haha

Jingoist while simultaneously Anti-American depending on what best suits them, truly a marvel.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:03 AM

16. You are so not alone


I am just not going to care enough to be upset. I'm pissed, but not as much as I've been in some past elections.

Canada does look nice, if they can get rid of Harper.

Just hang in there, UB. We survived Reagan and Both Bushes and here we be.

If it gets as bad as I think it might get, the People will have their say in other ways; this vote, I feel, does not reflect the People's thinking, but reflects their uncertainty about whom to believe.

Democrats can't seem to sell their message because, in my state at least, they are trying to look like Republicans.

Allison Grimes is a perfect example. She threw Obama under the bus to act more awesomely right wing, and she got fuck all for the effort.


I do not feel we got people to the polls.

This vote reflects a nation-wide constituency that doesn't know what the hell to think.





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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:13 AM

20. Political opinion is a pndulum that swings both ways.

And the herder it swings in one direction, the harder it swings back. LBJ gave us Nixon, Carter gave us Reagan, Clinton gave us Bush, Bush gave us Obama, etc. Tonight is just good news for 2016. I'm in my 60s, seen it many times. The balance and checks given us by the founding fathers will protect us for the next two years via the filibuster and the presidential veto. At worst the next two years will represent little to no progress, but not a disaster.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:28 AM

29. I can't be as optimistic as you

Democrats have not had 3 successive terms in the White House since the 1950s. Today's media is bought and paid for by Big Money, half of the country is fit for the loony bin, and the nails that do stick out in the Democratic Party get hammered down pretty quickly.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:35 AM

32. Things were not as bad to me

as they are now.

But I remember riots in the '60s, and there will be riots again if severe austerity measures become the rule.

It's not conjecture, it's just that there is so much poverty, so many people working their asses off and getting behind even as they do.

There are more guns out there.

There is more fear and paranoia out there. Stoked.

There are so many poor people incarcerated.

When the media told you that Ferguson issued 23,000 warrants for 21,000 people - 3 warrants for every household - they were trying to slap you in the face with the fact that poor people are being sucked up - just like in a vacuum - to feed the for-profit justice systems in place in towns like Fergusons.

And it is heartbreaking that more Centrist dems don't give five fucks.

Because we are creating an underclass of people we warehouse in filthy cells, not intent on rehabilitation to help them function in society, but intent on providing job security and profit.

It's adding another heavy burden on families for court fees, lawyers, probation fees, jail fees, phone calls and gas for visits so that children can see their fathers and mothers, not to mention the loss of breadwinners, their taxes and presence in their families' lives

There is so much brewing beneath the gentle facade, I'm afraid.

I won't be rioting, too old. But if I were younger it would be hard to not just give up.

That's what I see with my eyes, but I actually talk to poor people.

So scary, that.



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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:53 AM

43. I just got off the streets

I was homeless for the past 20 months and JUST moved into my new place (room rental) on Saturday. My mother, bless her heart, helped me get inside but I know how it is out there. People are getting homeless quick and getting un homeless slow. Shit is bad, the end is nigh, I wish it wasn't but it is the case.


Good insight about the gentle calm. Things are going to pop and I hope that I am reincarnated as someone cool.

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Response to INRVIZION (Reply #43)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:57 AM

49. Me too about the reincarnation

Welcome to DU, INRVIZION.

There is a lot of desperation. I'm glad you made it inside for winter.

Stay warm.



Edit: I have not been homeless, and for that I am thankful. Did not want to mislead with the title.



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Response to INRVIZION (Reply #43)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:31 AM

62. Welcome to DU,

INRVIZION

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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:53 AM

74. Excellent post.

I'm afraid too. The rhetoric from elected officials reflects the populace.
It does seem worse now.


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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:50 AM

39. i've been thinking the same

Over the next two years, the country is going to learn a lot about the Republicans. That could work in our favor for 2016. Thank goodness there aren't enough of them to override presidential vetos.

How can people claim to be disgusted with Congress and still vote for the party responsible for the dysfunction? It is truly frightening.

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Response to shireen (Reply #39)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:00 AM

54. yes...that level of stupidity.....

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Response to shireen (Reply #39)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:01 AM

76. "the country is going to learn a lot about the Republicans"

Exactly. And that will not be good news for Republicans. (Not good news for the country, either, of course.) I'm just glad tonight is happening in 2014 and not in 2016.

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Response to renate (Reply #76)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:58 PM

111. um... sorry... but...

If they didn't learn from the Iraq occupation and the Wall Street melt down, they will never learn. Thirty percent are brainwashed cultural republicans. At least 21% are just stupid people.

Billionaires Rule... We suck.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:37 AM

65. thank you. I remember bush in 2000 thats how I found

this place. it's bad but i was expecting it. you can't run from your party man, that is a bad strategy to start with. it just re-enforces the idea that something is wrong.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:50 AM

72. So, I take it that you're not concerned about impeachment? nt

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Response to Stardust (Reply #72)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:11 AM

87. They may impeach Obama,

but they won't have the votes to remove him from office.

I think we have entered an era where just about every two term president will be impeached, but not removed. It will be seen as the natural course of events 50 years from now.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #87)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:16 PM

88. So true, altho I'm not sure the Dems are as apt to engage in this folly routinely (even when they

absolutely should). When I posed the question, I wasn't aware of the 2/3 vote necessary to convict. Some pundit recently laid out the scenario where it was feasible, but I don't recall how s/he said it could happen. It sounded like a done deal at the time. Am relieved to know it's not. Thank you.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:59 PM

122. I'm with you on this....

surprisingly the older I get the less I fret and moan about it, but that comes from witnessing and experiencing these things from the other side of 60. I don't have enough years left on this earth to waste on trying to figure out how our electorate got so stupid and why some people even celebrate being stupid.

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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:55 AM

46. This is exactly what I just posted!

Seems like there are plenty others here who feel this way.

It's only a Tuesday night but, since I live in a state where it's legal, maybe I should light up a doobie and get some new perspective.

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #46)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:01 AM

55. Smoke a bowl or take a puff for me

I saw your post and smiled.

We know what the whatup is.

I also don't trust the black boxes. There are too many reasons not to.

Have a good night despite the bad returns....





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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:34 PM

90. Plus young people did not show up again.

Something like only 12% did. Pathetic.

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Response to savalez (Reply #90)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:06 PM

134. My parents taught me voting was a sacred responsibility.

What did the parents of these worthless twits teach them?

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Response to aquart (Reply #134)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:08 PM

135. Mine did too.

Every two years we voted - no matter what.

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Response to savalez (Reply #135)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:10 PM

136. 2 years?

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Response to aquart (Reply #136)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:19 PM

137. Yeah why?

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Response to savalez (Reply #137)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:27 PM

138. We voted at least once a year in NYC, usually twice.

Local elections are the ones most likely to affect you personally. The Republicans rebuilt themselved from the ground up by winning positions on school boards and local councils that most people didn't bother to show up to vote for.

Also, in Democratic NYC, the primary was the real election so missing that was unthinkable.

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Response to aquart (Reply #138)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:35 PM

139. Oh wow.

That's a lot of voting. Good for you keeping up with it. Yes, we must think local everywhere.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:11 AM

18. not funding and de-funding education is the core of the problem.

the more uneducated, the easier to control.

tell me I'm wrong.

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Response to Phlem (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:52 AM

42. I will tell you that you are right

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:13 AM

19. If it helps at all

pls remember you are not alone.

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Response to tblue (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:43 PM

108. Thanks

I'm trying... even my old political friends are just numb. We use to look after each other like in 2010. Now everyone is in their 50s and we don't even check in. If the big money Democratic donors think they can just roll out old Hillary and it will be 2008 or 2012 all over again they will lose. Why did we bother in the first place? I'm not going to do anything crazy, but I have for the first time in my life lost all hope. Bruce Rauner is Governor of Illinois.

Billionaires Rule... We Drool

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:21 AM

23. We Have Ourselves To Blame

 

As liberals that is.

We simply did not turn up to vote.

Well, they will get what they asked for w/this coming lurch to the RW.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:22 AM

24. speachless

 

stunned shocked very very sad

the land of the stupid

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:33 AM

31. My sentiments exactly

....and the home of the ignorant

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:24 AM

25. We lost this country a long time ago compliments of GWBush who caused irreparable harm that will

Probably never be repaired.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:37 AM

33. Many here are new to being liberal....

 

When you have been one long enough you learn to deal with defeat.

After all, we are going against "The Establishment" on a macro level meaning not only the famed "Military Industrial Complex" but the policy embraced by both political parties that what's good for Wall Street is good for the Nation and it is semi-official doctrine to represent Capitalism to the entire PLANET.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:45 AM

35. In a state of shock right now. Fortunately, PBO still has Veto power.

Enough people just set us back to 2007 - 2008.

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Response to ffr (Reply #35)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:56 AM

48. Well, he will cave...

the GOP has their strategy already laid out...

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:51 AM

40. You want to know what misery is?

 

Try being a Democrat in Kansas. I was born here but I loathe this state. They just re-elected two supreme pieces of GOP slime, Brownback and Roberts. This hurts almost as much as when Bush was re-selected. I am sick.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:57 AM

51. THANK YOU!!!!

Everyone on this thread is saying EXACTLY what I am thinking and feeling right now.

I think they call it "cold comfort"...somehow making me feel less bad.

Glad to be here tonight.

PS I even had to turn off Jon Stewart: he had on Rinsed Penis, head of the GOP!s

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #51)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:38 AM

66. Who the hell does Stewart think his audience is? If he suspected it would be a "bloodbath," as

he so eloquently put it, based on what polls were warning us, why would he book someone like Priebus? To rub salt in our wounds? He's dead to me, along with Chris Mathews. This whole night has been sickening. I fucking hate Steve Israel and Debbie W-Schultz--they are ruining out party.

Anyone wanna place bets on how soon The House will start the impeachment bullshit?

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:59 AM

52. We are fucked - truly, royally fucked in the neck as a nation

For all the blame we can lay on the teahadists and their dirty tricks, the Democratic Party really dropped the ball - and at the worst possible time.

We need Howard Dean to come back and wrench the party out of Debbie Wasserman Schultz's sickly hands.

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Response to derby378 (Reply #52)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:23 AM

58. In Oregon less than 50% of registered voters turned out to vote

What the hell is wrong with dems in Oregon? Why can't we get the fuck off our asses and mail in a ballot? You don't even have to drive anywhere, or walk, or stand in lines.

I'm so disgusted with people right now.

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Response to passiveporcupine (Reply #58)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:23 PM

89. No one believes in this system anymore. That's why. :-| n/t

 

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #89)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:18 PM

93. the system can't work if dems don't vote

dems are more educated on the issues, and that's why they get depressed and drop out. Republicans are less educated, but go with the ads, so money wins out...but republicans get out and vote. The Kochs will always win this way. Dems need to get off their "feel sorry for themselves" bit and get out and vote!

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:00 AM

53. 10 seats?! Mandate?!

 

F this night

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:02 AM

56. I couldn't have expressed it more succinctly.

The GOP and all their right wing pretend Dems SUCK... succinctly.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:22 AM

57. F**K I'm pissed off. You know what, we need to end this 2 party bullshit ...

Who the hell even made up this idea? Where does it say in the Constitution 'there shall be two parties ...'?

We need something much more like a Parliamentary System, with at LEAST 5-6 parties, one where all views are represented. Not this 'Here, everyone get's to choose between two equivocating parties ... that NOBODY really likes' BS.

I wish I could chalk it up to 'All this election PROVES is that >50% the people who showed up to vote in 6 states ... are mouth-breathing, brain-washed, Faux-Watching knuckle-draggers', but the reality is, it goes MUCH deeper than that. Nearly 1/2 the country are this way. This is proof that lies and propaganda ... work. This election shows that a great many people in this country ... are actually either morons, or they are evil.

And what's funny is that they claim an ACTUAL great, good man, Jesus of Nazareth, as the person they claim to worship and emulate. In fact, Jesus was teh greatest LIBERAL to have ever lived. And you mouth-breathers ... you only WISH you could be ACTUAL 'good, compassionate, honest, loving human beings'. You gravitate to 'Jesus' as such a beacon and that's because of the terrible EMPTINESS, the EVILNESS, the SOULLESSNESS that actually describes YOU ... you WISH you could be someone like Him. Meaning ... you WISH you could be something like a Liberal. So you HATE all of us ACTUAL Liberals, the people who Jesus would've actually called 'friend', were He here today.

You're being manipulated into doing the bidding and empowering the most supremely UN-JESUS-LIKE people that the world has ever known ... but I suppose you see your own reflection in the leaders of the GOP. You, and they, are the same sort of empty, soulless beings ... wishing you could be Jesus ... wishing you could be ... a Liberal.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:28 AM

60. off my chest

 

I am DISGUSTED that now our government can be bought by the guys with the deepest pockets , regardless of their lies and bribes to members of our government . Why have elections ? Just sell our country to the highest bidder . This is NOT acceptable . And even more saddening is that too many people fall for all these deceptions . No wonder repugs want to curtail money for education : keep the electorate dumb , then you can easily lead them like sheep .

This is sickening and very discouraging . I am saddened to my very soul . We must fight harder in two years !

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:29 AM

61. I almost moved to Seattle years ago after grad. school. Wish I had. In shock, and I

lived thru the 1981 Reagan-Bush 12 years Occupation in DC, barely.
I detest bigots of THE SOUTH, THE SECESH, SCOTUS, James CROW, RW Media & Crazies...

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:36 AM

64. Tonight just makes me sad

I am in Seattle tonight but live in the Portland, OR area. I am thankful I am from the Northwest, but I am an American first. I guess the majority of the American people learned nothing from the Bush/Cheney mess, and we seem to be hell bent on going back to what we must think of as the good old days of the Bush era. Over and over the press kept stating that Pres. Obama had only a 41% approval rating. They never talked about that Congress had a 13% or lower rating. I feel like we have made it okay to be overt racists and to hate others with differing opinions and to always be in fear. The Republicans even made the people believe Obama was responsible for ISIS and Ebola. Why do the American people think it is the Republicans that keep us safe? Wasn't 911 on Bush's watch? I guess Obama needed to find another country to invade. Maybe that would make the American people happy. It has taken years for my disabled Marine son to get back to a somewhat normal life after his tours in Iraq. I am sick of Republicans and the chaos and hatred they bring to our country. Who could elect Joni Ernst and Brownback, etc.?!? Sigh!!

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Response to mommymarine2003 (Reply #64)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:47 AM

69. Welcome to DU,

mommymarine2003

Tonight has been a disaster for liberals and progressives.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Reply #69)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:20 AM

81. It's been a disaster for the entire country.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:52 AM

73. Lets not forget our media.

Our wonderful, independent, fact-seeking, non-corporate Koch sucking, non-biased, intelligent media.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:53 AM

75. FUCKING A

I am so disgusted with MI right now and WI AND IA AND GA AND FL AND AND and. We be fucked for the next 2 years at least.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:01 AM

77. righteous rant.

agreed

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:09 AM

80. Can we PLEASE let them secede?

I think it is time to acknowledge that uniting the North and the South is a three hundred fifty year-old failed experiment. Next time any political leader in the South mentions that they want to secede, we should jump at the opportunity to untangle the country from the Red states.

This country cannot have clean air, water and earth in many states, because Republicans. This country cannot have science in many states, because Republicans. This country cannot have rational, thoughtful, logical gun regulations, because Republicans. Women cannot exercise control over their own bodies in many states, because Republicans.

And, after this election, it will get significantly worse. We could save the country by simply letting the Red states secede.

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Response to zelduh (Reply #80)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:00 PM

123. From the Land of Lincoln

I too wish Lincoln and the Unionists had taken the deal. Today why would they? Once they get in they are impossible to get out (see Scott Walker).

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:31 AM

83. We need to start having our own Nuremberg trials.

A lot of information about how the Nazis ran things was revealed in the Nuremberg trials. If we started arresting and prosecuting the Kochs, the bankers and everyone else involved in the tanking of our economy and the destruction of the middle class, we'd learn some scary shit too. But as long as we keep electing republican assholes nothing is going to change. Fuck the whole lot of them, and fuck their enablers in the Christian church and on AM hate radio.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:55 AM

84. I always come back to DU

Angry, hopeless, disgusted with idiots who believe the Fascists and vote in lying Rethugs, playing right into the hands of the corporatists who want to control us. SOOOOOOOOOOOO pissed tonight!!! Fools voting against their own interests, rewarding the scum who created all of the voter suppression tactics and vote flipping machines. Grrrrrr.

All I see in the future is two years of witch hunts with Dems being burned in Congressional hearings. Expect the impeachment of President Obama and more "Benghazi! Benghazi!" to discredit Hillary (and Obama). Bastards. Now that they have Congress and the Supreme Injustices, they will install Jebbie in 2016.

Personally I see a difficult retirement, with no Social Security or Medicare. At least I won't have to live long, as is their plan.

I keep visualizing the KochSucker Bros toasting their victory tonight with all the little minions they purchased to carry out their evil plans. Half of Americans are so damned dumb! Actually I think less than half because of the cheating, but still too many. The Kochs are likely reveling with the Waltons, the DeVos clan and the rest of the 1% who are playing with our lives like we're their personal Sims.

I could go on. I just feel sick. Thanks for being here to commiserate, fellow DU'ers. I always hoped working class people would catch on. The dumbing down of America has succeeded and I think we've lost the battle. Damn them all - the idiots and the apathetic who sit on their asses and say "both sides are the same." Jackasses.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:49 PM

91. I'm so angry that the jackbooted thugs won.

So angry that I can no longer recognize my country where laws are written by the rich for the rich. So unhappy with the United States of Old White Rich Guys who fuck everyone else. So unhappy that the 24/7 lies bought by the Kochs/Rove/Adelsons and their handpicked collaborators, the Repug candidates, drove so many to vote against their own best interests. So unhappy that my children are young adults who will never have the opportunities we did. So unhappy that the income inbalance is just about to get a lot worse. So unhappy that women will have their few remaining rights taken away in many states. I'm also worried that Obama will sell us down the river by going along with Chained CPI and TPP and hurt the working class dearly both now and for the future.

I've got to get out of this place!

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:07 PM

92. This country deserves what it gets.

It's not like the information isn't out there about what Republicans are doing (not to mention a big portion of Democrats, who aren't any better). They brag on it, and the citizens just giggle and vote for them.

Don't get too hopeful about 2016. I think people like having the country screwed over like this. If I had any money, I'd bet on a Republican sweep in two years.

I said in another post that I was probably through with voting after the next election, if McCrory (NC governor) is reelected. But you know what? I think I'm through now. I'm tired of being blamed for low voter turnout, Congress's bad votes, the President back-tracking on things he said he'd do, and whatever else is my fault, all because I'm a liberal.

I'm tired of being told I have to hold my nose and vote D, because the other side is worse. Fuck that. There is no lesser of two evils, there's only evil.

JFK, RFK and my grandpa are rolling in their graves.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:31 PM

94. I'm sick about the result

 

I still think the world of Obama and the final six years of his presidency have largely gone to waste.

He told us throughout the 2008 campaign that he couldn't bring about change by himself. Congress gridlock has proven that the past four years. He told us that WE had to bring about the change and he needed our help.

Against the big corporate money, we have failed and I'm brutally disappointed.

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Response to cleduc (Reply #94)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:55 PM

133. well said...

"we have failed" we must now fight back harder

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Response to cleduc (Reply #94)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:56 PM

140. we have failed

yup... we suck.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:58 PM

95. Waiting for analysis of the voting

I'm anxious to see what the real cause of the R sweep is. I think the gains in the House can be explained by recent gerrymandering and the voter suppression laws. Gains in the Senate are a combination of voter suppression laws and the fact that these are just Red states and we didn't have much of a chance anyway.

What kills me is the governorships. Massachusetts - one of the bluest states in the country - elected a Republican, as did Illinois.

All of this is exacerbated by low voter turnout among those who can think. The Republican lemmings came out in force. The moderates and independents stayed home because there was nothing to excite them to the polls.

Mid-terms just suck for the more progressive party. It's just not in our DNA to go out there and pathologically vote like conservatives do. This is some DNA we need to develop.

The voter registration drives for the 2016's should start right now. No time to lick wounds.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:03 PM

96. In Oregon we did our part, reelected Dem. Governor,

Congressman and Senator.
Legalized pot.
GMO labeling still not finalized, huge amount of money spent on lies.
In my county,(Curry) we had over 75% voter turnout.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:06 PM

97. Kicked and recommended!

I'm with you, Unknown Beatle.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:34 PM

101. I know how you feel, UB. That's why I won't be watching any political shows for the next, oh, two

weeks or so. My blood pressure won't be able to handle it. Not yet, at least.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:36 PM

102. I'm right there with you OP

 

This fucking country is hopeless and dumb as hell.

God help us all.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:23 PM

104. do you think you're the only one

my whole household is in mourning.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:23 PM

105. Well, are you ready now to support the National Initiative?

 

A totally corrupt system is the only way an election like this can happen.

Can we finally get together on the idea of the National Initiative for Democracy to break this corruption, make big time criminals accountable by investigation, and give the government back to the people?

What say all?

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:26 PM

106. The Fall of Chicago

Over at Capitolfax.com the political hobbyists are pretending that because the legislature didn't go red, the power of billionaire Bruce Rauner our governor elect will not be total. In two years, they will throw another gazillion ill-gotten dollars at taking over the state legislature.

They will snap our unions like twigs like they did in Wisconsin. We will all be happy to be paid for any itinerant work. I hate to be so pessimistic but these mid-term election debacles are destroying me. When I die, I know I will not be missed.

This all started with Kathleen Sebelius' catastrophe. It will end with old Hillary and Lisa Madigan for Governor of IL. I have never felt this hopeless before. It was almost this bad in 1988, but I was a young man back then and knew I might have some years in front of me to see change. Now it's just the void. Wait for my mom to pass and then play out the string.

Billionaires rule... we drool.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:36 PM

107. People voted against their best interests

CNN's exit polls had some interesting but scary stats. 10% of blacks (who were 12% of all voters) voted Republican. 36% of Latinos (8% of voters) voted Republican. What needs to be determined is why these people felt compelled to voted against the party that supports them most.

These are for the house races. Senate races are kind of all over the map but 6 to 10% of black voters still voted Republican, even in the deep south.

http://www.cnn.com/election/2014/results/race/house#exit-polls


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Response to OnlinePoker (Reply #107)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:28 PM

144. "Anti-marriage equality black pastors aligned with GOP"



http://www.democraticunderground.com/10695472

I haven't studied any data yet, but I'm wondering if this had an impact on Hagan losing in NC.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:46 PM

109. at least you are blaming the right people

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:12 PM

113. We are a democracy only in theory.

 

The hidden reality is that there are different standards of justice in this country depending on how much money you have, and perhaps your skin color. It's sad but that's just the way it is.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:16 PM

115. A featured post

I was doing a search on Google under "rout" and your post was featured on one of the right wing e-rags (Tucker Carlson's Daily Caller) with a series of additional DU posts scooped up from last night. Those readers have absolutely no sympathy and are reveling in our state of disbelief. Everyone who is politically active has withdrawn into their own private camps so how can anyone with opposing ideas reach through those walls with just words?

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:25 PM

118. Got the prefect song

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:05 PM

120. I share your pain.

 

Today I was once again humiliated and bullied by rethugs. They all laughed and said Obama was a failure and that I am a fool. They are the fools for not understanding Obama.
They said that Obama makes us look weak to other Nations and that the Russians are laughing at us. And they said he can't handle terrorists in the Middle East and that they are taking over. They said people hate the healthcare bill and that he has done a bad job with the economy.

I told them that Russia is a bully while Obama is a good person and that other people can see that. There wouldn't be problems in the Middle East if it wasn't for George W. Bush invading a country and starting all the violence over there. And that he did a very good job fixing healthcare and the economy (also George W. Bush) they just won't recognize it and give him credit because they are such haters.

I try to fight the good fight but I am outnumbered kind of like our voters

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Response to KittyKat13 (Reply #120)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:19 PM

125. Jerks

Yeah, that's what the Republican rank & file do. Don't be surprised. Our very existence bothers them to no end. They are like dementors in Harry Potter because they draw strength from our pain. If Democrats had a mass die off, they would then make new teams and play again.

At the moment it would be fine with me if President Scott Walker tried to "divide & conquer" Vladmir Putin and got the whole planet annihilated. As long as it is quick and almost painless.

You are clearly a better person than they are. Might as well stick around and maybe find some happiness somewhere somehow.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:12 PM

124. And that has so little to do with it.

 

If Democratic politicians had given us DEMOCRATS to vote for the numbers might have been different.

Given the choice between a Republican and a Republican slightly lite, the voters will say fuck it and do anything else.

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Response to obxhead (Reply #124)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:53 PM

132. You hit the nail on the head...

That same Benedict Arnold tactic "backfired" on Al Gore when he tried to distance himself from Clinton back in 2000!

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:26 PM

127. Twenty years ago Carlin YELLED AT US, that it is OVER

that they do not care about you...

Somehow they have kept us engaged to this point as if we had any shot at democracy and common sense.

Some of us will stay engaged, but it might be a waste of time

If the KOCH bros want to kill Women, I think they are going to get to do just that.

But I will fight them, with everything I have

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:41 PM

130. A lot of these voters are "clueless"

They remind me of a woman "physically abused" and beaten by her husband or boyfriend. All he has to say are a few nice words and she's going RIGHT BACK TO HIM! How can people ignore what the Republicans have done to this country over the past decade? Yet they're GOING BACK FOR MORE! Pathetic!

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:49 PM

131. It has been easy for them since de-regulation of communications, own the information, own the nation

And now your interne is going to get much more expensive and extremely tightly controlled.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:18 PM

142. +1

Especially for my dumbass tea party nut state

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:06 PM

146. Get WHAT off your chest? Couldn't you put THAT in your subject line?????

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:11 PM

147. took the words right out of my mouth n/t

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