Mitt faces up to 5 years in jail & $10,000 fine if he did not live in his son’s unfinished basement

[kpete]

Mitt Romney, guilty of voter fraud?
Posted on April 17, 2012
Mitt Romney faces up to five years in jail and a $10,000 fine if he did not live in his son’s unfinished basement in 2010

In January 2010 the former Massachusetts governor proudly cast a ballot for Republican Scott Brown in the special election to replace the late Sen. Ted Kennedy. He didn’t own property in the state at the time, and had registered to vote listing his son’s unfinished basement as his residence. Massachusetts law defines a residence for voter registration purposes as “where a person dwells and which is the center of his domestic, social, and civil life.” Anyone found guilty of committing voter fraud faces up to five years behind bars and a fine of $10,000.http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/23/romney-voter-fraud-allegations-loom-as-general-election-liability/


Is this exactly like that ‘voter fraud‘ thing that the Republicans are always trying to pretend the Democrats participate in? Except that the Democrats don’t?

Mitt Romney’s motto: vote early and vote often!
http://underthemountainbunker.com/2012/04/17/mitt-romney-guilty-of-voter-fraud/


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If that’s true, Romney showed a true commitment to voting for Republican Senator Scott Brown in last year’s special election, since he owns a $12.5 million home in La Jolla, Calif. and a $10 million home in New Hampshire’s Lake Winnipesaukee – but no home in the state he was once governor.

Not that he was exactly roughing it. Romney’s son Tagg and his wife greatly improved the property in recent years adding an in-ground pool and a jacuzzi to the rebuilt property that spans three old lots, bumping its assessed value up to $3.8 million.

Still, as Belmont, Mass. property assessment records I dug up show, the basement is unfinished – hardly the standard the former investment banker would be used to. Here’s a portion of the property record (Belmont Property View). http://blogs-images.forbes.com/brendancoffey/files/2011/06/Belmont-Property-View.pdf I have edited the image to highlight the basement description. Here is the full record: http://blogs-images.forbes.com/brendancoffey/files/2011/06/Belmont-Property-View-full.pdf Belmont Property View full. As a public record you can find the full report also through the town of Belmont here. The property was last inspected by the town on June 21, 2010, well after the state’s January special election that filled Ted Kennedy’s old seat.

Of course, as Karger argues to the Massachusetts Secretary of State, Romney likely didn’t live in the basement, so it appears like voter fraud, a crime punishable by up to five years in jail and a $10,000 fine.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brendancoffey/2011/06/15/did-mitt-romney-live-in-his-sons-unfinished-basement-last-year/

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The local fishmonger told Karger, “They flew the coop. They moved to California. I haven’t seen Mrs. Romney in over two years, and she used to come in here all the time.” Likewise, churchgoers used to worshiping with the Romneys told Karger that they also hadn’t seen the Romneys in a couple years. Yet the Romneys continued to vote in Massachusetts, including in the January 2010 special election to fill Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat. Karger says he even received personal confirmation from Ann Romney about the couple’s living arrangements. In April, Karger says he ran into her in Las Vegas at a meeting of the Republican Jewish Coalition, where Mitt was speaking. According to Karger, Ann told him they are living in California.
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/did-mitt-romney-commit-voter-fraud

[sadbear]

1. I'm going to take a wild guess

and say this doesn't get very far. For some reason, the law that applies to people like us doesn't apply to people like Mitt.

[AsahinaKimi]

80. Its amazing how some Republicans

can escape the consequences of the law, while Democrats don't and face the consequences.

[Demoiselle]

2. Didn't the lovely and talented Anne Coulter do something similarly fraudulent a while back?

Humph. The Repukes are right, voter fraud is a real threat.

[AllyCat]

23. So there is voter fraud...it's just the Repukes that do it.

I read somewhere of 7 total cases in WI (prior to the passage and now holding of our voter suppression law). Of those 7, at least 3 were people who had two residences like vacation homes who voted in both places they "lived". Of course, it's not the poor who have two homes. Wish I could find a link for this though.

[DeeDeeNY]

40. Yes and she got away with it

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8124

[PatrynXX]

59. not really

since the public perception is she committed voter fraud. similar to Sarah Palin and I can see russia from my house and Obama's Death Panels. doesn't exist but the perception is there. so as far as I'll be concerned she committed voter fraud. likely someone paid whatever to ignore said evidence..

[Lawlbringer]

3. If the early poll numbers are close

I think I can see the President pushing this with his trollface on. Imagine a voter fraud trial during a general election? lol

[Skink]

4. He was acting as car elevator consultant

And living on site.

[RC]

5. If found guilty, Mitt will buy a replacement to go to jail for him.

[drm604]

6. Come on Republicans.

Put up or shut up. If you are really sincere about the campaign you are waging against the devastating threat of voter fraud, then you know what has to be done.

[riderinthestorm]

7. IOKIYAR. nt

[lsewpershad]

8. He should

be jailed 2 weeks before the elections....would be nice.

[Politicalboi]

9. Now let's imagine Obama did this

The pitchfork and torch crew would be outside the White House tonight.

[usrname]

43. It's not possible that Obama can do this

He's not even an American citizen, being born a mooslim from Kenyaland.

[Politicalboi]

53. LOL!

Oh that's right, I forgot. Kenya Believe it!

[Jamaal510]

56. He's not just a Mooslim from Kenya--

he's an Atheist Marxist Socialist Elitist Mooslim from Kenya!

[jmowreader]

93. You forgot the part about his soshulust anti-American Christian preacher buddy

The same right-wingers who bitch about Obama being Muslim also bitch about how Obama must be in lockstep with Reverend Wright because the Obamas went to Trinity United Christian Church. (Trinity is a megachurch--it has 6000 members.)

Most people wouldn't expect to find a Muslim on the rolls of a Christian church, but we're not talking about most people.

[thevoiceofreason]

84. And there are few basements in Kenya

[notadmblnd]

10. I wonder if they were voting in California too?

then he'd have no "living in my son's basement" wiggle room. It would then be a slam dunk.

[Mz Pip]

21. That needs to be looked into

Wonder if anyone in the so called "liberal media" will take the time to do a litle digging. Shouldn't be that hard to go though some voter registration records.

[LiberalFighter]

28. That's where State Democratic Parties be involved.

They have the resources in house.

[goclark]

71. Someone needs to send this to Rev. Al

and Benjamin Jealous, President of the NAACP.

[Cosmocat]

64. BINGO

If he voted in California or NH AND Mass ...

IMO, that would be pretty darn big.

[tonybgood]

81. That's what I was wondering.

Did Mitt Romney vote more than once in that election cycle? Does he have any evidence to prove he lived there? I can "say" I lived in the White House but would anyone believe me without proof? NO!!! So where's the proof that you lived there and were you and Mrs. Romney living there or was there some marital problems? This could be interesting if someone would do a little digging!

[mimitabby]

11. how come we are hearing about this NOW??

why wasn't there a big stink years ago?????

[customerserviceguy]

63. Why didn't we hear about it during the primaries?

Sure, Rick Santorum has his own absentee problems, and who knows what sort of shenanigans Noot Gingrich has been up to while he's been sneaking around, but why didn't one of the early dropouts mention this? Rick Perry had no trouble going after Mittens over some old charge of employing illegal aliens to work on one of his houses.

[loyalsister]

65. Maybe that's our good fortune

A prison worthy scandal now that he is essentially running against Obama should help us.

[tk2kewl]

12. Throw the book at the cheating hypocryte!

[spanone]

13. k&r...

[HooptieWagon]

14. I hear voting fraud is a problem of epic proportions.

It sounds like there needs to be immediate investigations by the FBI, FEC, grand jury, and a special prosecutor. Of course hes entitled to a trial... Im sure one can be scheduled for late October.

[HiPointDem]

15. "Tagg"? I knew they were related to the Palins, but...

[Tom Ripley]

94. I know! Sounds like an afternoon at the dog park

[LiberalEsto]

16. Perhaps he and Ann were living on the EDGE

so to speak.

[Plucketeer]

17. I saw some Freeper response to that article.....

where she defended Mitt by saying the county clerk had said Mitt's registration was "legal". I don't know about back east, but here - in backwards California - no clerk ever swung by our place to see if we REALLY do live here.

[OnlinePoker]

24. Maybe it's time to ask Mitt to prove his residency there at the time.

If they can harp on Obama about his birth certificate ad infinitum, it's time for a little payback.

[bluedigger]

18. How many other ex-Governor's move out of state after they serve?

He's a man of substance and conviction, all right.

[shawn703]

19. Maybe this is why he won't release his 2009 tax return?

Might make it too easy to track down where he really lived when he filed his taxes in 2010 for TY 2009?

[obxhead]

20. That may be a very good guess.

[progressoid]

31. Yeah, something is fishy.

Things that make you go hmmmm.

[riderinthestorm]

35. That's a really good point. Kicking for more exposure for this post nt

[rufus dog]

42. That was my thought too when he released the records

If I recall the election was in January, so in 2010 he can claimed he moved, although there should be some time claimed in MA.

[hootinholler]

51. I'm sure the courts can order access to that. n/t

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

22. No running water or toilet to get rid of their feces and it was like a cage

He and Ann loved it!

[SoCalDem]

47. Maybe Tagg (or whatever anagram-ish son it was ) hosed them off from time to time

[Cleita]

25. Mitt faces nothing.

With his money he can buy the best lawyers available.

[maindawg]

26. ?

is this a felony?

[LiberalFighter]

30. More than likely. When done intentionally.

If he also voted in some other state that would be even more egregious.

[maindawg]

27. just dumb

Mittens has 12 lawyers on the case already. But they cant change the fact that mittens is just dumb. An empty suit, who is really just plain stupid. Does dumb stuff, says dumb stuff all the time. He is a walking talking gaff.

[caveat_imperator]

78. g. w. bush was just as dumb

but he and his cronies managed to steal 2 presidential elections.

[Bluenorthwest]

29. Did he pay taxes in MA?

That's one good question that he could easily answer.

[pscot]

33. And if not, why not?

[d_r]

77. That's what I wanted to know

That should open and shut it imho

[FarCenter]

87. I believe that NH is his residence for tax purposes

Residency is a legal concept. It has nothing to do with common sense.

[gejohnston]

32. Preppy prison uniform

[polichick]

34. This really is fraud! Wonder if he voted someplace else too.

[riverbendviewgal]

36. Jon Stewart should bite this story like a pit bull

Then the MSM will pick it up....

[allan01]

37. re:Mitt faces up to 5 years in jail & $10,000 fine if he did not live in his son’s unfinished baseme

he who usually yells the loudest against something , almost has something to hide and he who lives in glass houses shouldnt throw stones

[freshwest]

38. No fraud! Romney's clones live in all those places at once. Can't you tell?

Come on folks, it's 2012 in the Brave New World.

The Mini-Mittens are everywhere.

[siligut]

39. He is an idiot, but if he did this it is just dumb arrogance

He broke the law to cast a vote that made no difference. He broke the law for nothing, either he really thinks the laws don't apply to him or this is a red herring.

[usregimechange]

41. Who would be the prosecuting agency? The sheriff in the county where he "lived?"

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

44. I want to see the long form voter registration form!!!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

45. For those who didn't see the Rachel Maddow Show when she covered this story...

It's here:

[xocet]

46. No problem - IOKIYAR n/t

[Blue Owl]

48. Sleeps with Kochroaches

n/t

[MADem]

49. That bastard took a HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION in UTAH on his Ski Home while he was

setting up to run for MA Governor. He got caught, claimed it was a "mistake" and had to pay the state of Utah additional taxes.

He's a liar.

[klook]

75. Yeah, a "mistake." He mis-resided. (n/t)

[lonestarnot]

50. K & Fucking R!

[Faryn Balyncd]

52. Not only was Mitt living in the basement, but he was sleeping in the dog's old car top carrier!

So there!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

79. He and Ann loved it!

[MADem]

82. It still had the faint aroma of canine turkey-poop about it! nt

[Politicalboi]

54. I bet old Newt is waiting

For the shoe to drop. LOL! Poor Ricky should have stayed a while longer. Then there's SandwichGate in Wisconsin. He just might disqualify himself yet.

[cbdo2007]

69. You might be on to something here.....

I have a pretty strong hunch that Romney WON"T actually be the candidate on the ballot in November. He'll probably make it through the Repube convention and get the nomination, but I'm pretty sure his Sept/Oct surprise is going to knock him completely out of the race. Then, they'll throw in whoever is next in line and it will be Newt's only chance to actually run for Pres since he would never actually win the nomination himself.........

I would only give it a 10% chance of Romney being on the ballot in Nov......so guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[Politicalboi]

90. I hope we're both right

[ThoughtCriminal]

55. No wonder Freepers hate him

You're supposed to live in your Mom's basement.

[Overseas]

57. Yes please!

[Tiggeroshii]

58. Did he lose his own bet?

[caseymoz]

60. Time to Acorn his ass.

But why do I think he'll fare much better?

[cali]

61. Voter Fraud. I hope we can make hay out of fuckface's lying.

[Island Blue]

62. Just the thought of Mittens in one of the prisons

featured on MSNBC's Friday night/weekend programing makes me smile. Not that he would ever go to one of those facilities even if he did end up in "prison".

[ejbr]

66. move along....iokiyar n/t

[drynberg]

67. Wow, ANOTHER RMoney contribution to the re-elect the President Campaign, but I have a question...

Can one take the oath of office for President in the slammer? Mittens, Mittens, shame on your rich job crushing BainAss.

[IDemo]

68. Roofdog will be doing time

as soon as Wall Street criminals and Bushco war criminals wind up in the slammer. Translation - never gonna happen.

[SwampG8r]

70. new this sept on FOX

The Man Under the House

mitt romney stars as a bitter former politician (with a secret heart of gold)who avoids prison on federal elections violations by living in a basement in massachusetts
hijinks galore and fun for the whole family
tuesdays at 8
7 central

[dsharp88]

72. Prosecutors decided awhile back to take no action...

so it's a dead issue.

If the law isn't enforced, he can't be found guilty of wrongdoing.

Unfortunately, this issue is just not going to stick.

[Catherine Vincent]

74. I agree

If he wasn't charged then, he won't be charged now. Dead issue.

[Marrah_G]

76. Yup- different laws for the rich....always

[treestar]

97. Why not?

His not being prosecuted doesn't mean the media can't go on about it 23/7. Oh wait, they aren't. I see it's already dropping.

Yet if Obama had done that?

[montanto]

73. "faces?" yeah, right. eom.

[datasuspect]

83. silly rabbit, laws don't apply to the rich

just to little people.

[KamaAina]

85. If there's anything to this, it might be better for us to wait

until after the RNC, when he's the official nominee on all the ballots -- THEN go 24/7 with this!

edit: If he goes down now, the repuke insiders can just replace him with Jeb! or whoever else strikes their fancy.

[AverageJoe90]

86. I honestly thought this was straight from the Onion.........

I guess not, though.........if this is really true, then hot damn it, there's going to be REAL trouble for the Repubs if Rmoney is actually found guilty of voter fraud! :devilgrin:

[mnhtnbb]

88. Isn't this the same year--2010--as Prop 8 in California? Someone needs to check voter records

for 2010 to see whether Mittens also voted--or said he voted--in favor of Prop 8. Then
his goose would really be cooked.

[mamayo]

89. Morman made up of lies

I do not think that the Mormon religion teaches the behavior that Mitt has been displaying. Now, either they don't care (since he has donated millions to the church) or Mitt doesn't care and is not telling the truth about his commitment the Mormon religion. He just adores the almighty dollar.

[alp227]

91. Free Republic doesn't have any coverage of this story at all.

I don't know if they'd defend a RINO candidate anyway, but in a thread linking to a story about the allegations of voter fraud against Ann Coulter, they collectively chanted: "ACORN! ACORN! ACORN!" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2181090/posts

But interesting how the right-wing Daily Caller got a hold of this story though. LOL at the top-liked comment:

So is the election going to be between a possible bogus citizen of the US versus a possible bogus residence of Massachusetts?

Take your pick fellow Americans.

[marlakay]

92. Every state has a law that says how long you have to live

somewhere to be considered a resident for voting. He doesn't have to own anything, even living with his son would count but only if it was his main residence and that to me is the thing that I bet isn't true. He probably visited but didn't stay long enough to have it be considered his main place of residence. Usually that is where you file your taxes from also.

[krispos42]

95. Voter fraud. I'm told this is a critical issues, and violators must be dealth with harshly.

Okay, then, toss him in a private prison! Let's go, RWers!

[toddwv]

96. It's probably why he refuses to release his tax returns from that far back.

If he claimed a residency tax credit in another state... he is toast.