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Francis has been labelled a communist by some hard right elements in the US after denouncing the tyranny of capitalism, calling the wealth made from financial speculation as intolerable and saying speculation on commodities was a scandal that compromised the poors access to food.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2813459/Pope-Francis-insists-no-communist-just-following-Catholic-teachings-defending-rights-poor.html
Why are we allowing Goldman Sachs to speculate on food when As the U.S. emerges from the worst recession since the Great Depression, 25% of children dont have enough food to eat
Goldman lobbied Congress to drive our costs up to make themselves more money. They even named it after themselves "Goldman Sachs Commodity Index" GSCI
Now millions in this country are suffering without enough to eat because Goldman Sachs needed more money.
Just as easily as this was started, just like the Koch brothers introducing oil speculation, we can reverse this and stop these bastards from stealing our money.
J_J_
(1,213 posts)How Goldman Sachs Created the Food Crisis
Don't blame American appetites, rising oil prices, or genetically modified crops for rising food prices.
Wall Street's at fault for the spiraling cost of food.
It took the brilliant minds of Goldman Sachs to realize the simple truth that nothing is more valuable than our daily bread. And where there's value, there's money to be made. In 1991, Goldman bankers, led by their prescient president Gary Cohn, came up with a new kind of investment product, a derivative that tracked 24 raw materials, from precious metals and energy to coffee, cocoa, cattle, corn, hogs, soy, and wheat. They weighted the investment value of each element, blended and commingled the parts into sums, then reduced what had been a complicated collection of real things into a mathematical formula that could be expressed as a single manifestation, to be known henceforth as the Goldman Sachs Commodity Index (GSCI).
For just under a decade, the GSCI remained a relatively static investment vehicle, as bankers remained more interested in risk and collateralized debt than in anything that could be literally sowed or reaped. Then, in 1999, the Commodities Futures Trading Commission deregulated futures markets. All of a sudden, bankers could take as large a position in grains as they liked, an opportunity that had, since the Great Depression, only been available to those who actually had something to do with the production of our food.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/04/27/how_goldman_sachs_created_the_food_crisis
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Her initials are HRC.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)when compared to popes since John XXiii. A pronouncement like that is going to leave a mark and impress people all around the world.
As for Goldman, all of the top management should be marched to a guillotine set up in front of their building, then shaved with the National Razor, including HRC's BFF Blankfein. He can get the "honor" of going first. Then their families should be sold into slavery in Dubai, and the company smashed to atoms and scattered to the four winds. But not before repatriating every penny that can be found of the countless bllions they have stolen over the last 35 years.
TexasProgresive
(12,154 posts)will never open their minds to what he is saying. Popes before him have made similar points but to no avail. The few who benefit from impoverishing many will continue to rationalize their actions and to open the floodgates of propaganda that the rest of us should get with the program and "pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, like we did".
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)who are on the fence. The worldwide impact could be much greater.
J_J_
(1,213 posts)Billions working together to make sure everyone has enough to eat, somewhere to sleep, needed medical care...what could be better?
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts). . . but is rather with the episcopate. His two predecessors, over a span of 35 years, made a point of filling every bishopric that became vacant with a bishop who was just as doctrinaire and reactionary as they were, and who was also relatively quite young. And just as we saw within the last couple of weeks with the Pope's call for a more pastoral approach to LGBT and divorced Catholics, while the Pope can say whatever he wants, the second he actually tries to implement his ideas that the Old Guard considers too far afield, those reactionary bishops will quash his proposal like a bug.
calimary
(81,091 posts)Appointed as many like-minded people to positions that don't automatically turn over when the next administration takes charge.
DAMMIT, WHY DON'T PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE THINK DEVIOUSLY LIKE THAT? The takeover will be complete, right under our noses, before our people actually wake up. Because of this political Ebola virus, the damage is systemic. Sometimes it feels as though we're slowly but surely being swallowed up by a huge political opportunistic infection.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,576 posts)The Bastille fortress was a symbol of royal power during the French Revolution. These days Goldman is a pretty good symbol of "royal" power. And, after the Bastille fell, the head of the guy who ran the place, Marquis de Launay, was put on a pike and paraded around Paris...
Get out the torches and pitchforks! I have a garden fork, and maybe I could use my tiki torch.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Wish I could Photoshop.
meow2u3
(24,757 posts)deminks
(11,013 posts)Some call it the Poverty Industry
http://beforeitsnews.com/banksters/2012/10/shocking-report-jp-morgan-makes-over-half-billion-dollars-off-food-stamps-2431996.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/01/jp-morgan-s-food-stamp-empire.html#
The Bible calls it the money changers - people who make money off of money. Jesus threw them out of the Temple. Today's self professed Christians would lay down and die for them, no doubt about it.
I am sort of liking this Pope. Little by little. Sort of.
QuestionAlways
(259 posts)This Pope listened to what Jesus said and what he was concerned about
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)so if he really cared about his economic message being taken seriously, he might want to drop the superstition and bigotry.
J_J_
(1,213 posts)theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Sorry to burst your bubble.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)right to reproductive choice. Disgusting to see it here. A vile, horrible site.
You should self delete that shit at once.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)turning an institution as old, bureaucratized and barnacle-encrusted as the catholic church is like raising the Titanic with a pair of tweezers. This economic message is a very significant stride in the right direction and he's making a lot more noise on this issue than on the ones you mention.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)injustice, all they are doing is advocating continued injustice. Excusing bigotry and harm done to others. That's all they are doing. 'But but, the old men neeeeed to keep abusing you'. Fuck that.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)Speculators and hoarders had raised the cost of Flour to the point where none but the wealthy could afford a loaf of Bread.
Thus the reply from Marie Antoinette, when told the people had no Bread to eat.: " Let them eat Cake."
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)And not caring if 1 in 3 kids goes to bed without food in their belly. Hey they should get a job and stop being lazy.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)(Well, someone had to ask)
In truth, I think the Founder was crucified for saying much the same thing.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)doesn't seem to have much in common with the fella you reference.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)But I love he's a breath of fresh air. I shall just keep watching.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 2, 2014, 12:32 PM - Edit history (1)
With billions in shares in international corporations and global banks, vast real estate holdings, gold and treasure.
Yeah, get back to me on that, your holiness.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)It should not be on DU, and those who are backing that poster up should be ashamed.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Why deal with facts when you can just react to headlines and meaningless rhetoric?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Vote with a well-formed conscience that is unconditionally pro-life.
We are responsible for the formation of our consciences and for choosing as wisely as possible from among the laws and candidates on our ballots. Whenever possible, we must vote for candidates who stand with the Church on ending abortion, defending traditional marriage, and opposing euthanasia, embryonic stem cell research and human cloning.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/a-catholic-obligation-to-vote-november-4
It's a full tilt right wing hate site, entire sections dedicated to attacking LGBT people.