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uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 10:26 PM Oct 2014

New CDC Risk categories for Ebola, Get your Info Here

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/exposure/risk-factors-when-evaluating-person-for-exposure.html

Updated: October 27, 2014

The following epidemiologic risk factors should be considered when evaluating a person for Ebola virus disease (Ebola), classifying contacts, or considering public health actions such as monitoring and movement restrictions based on exposure.

1. High risk includes any of the following:
Percutaneous (e.g., needle stick) or mucous membrane exposure to blood or body fluids of a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic,
Exposure to the blood or body fluids (including but not limited to feces, saliva, sweat, urine, vomit, and semen) of a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic without appropriate personal protective equipment (PPE),
Processing blood or body fluids of a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic without appropriate PPE or standard biosafety precautions,
Direct contact with a dead body without appropriate PPE in a country with widespread Ebola virus transmission,
Having lived in the immediate household and provided direct care to a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic

2. Some risk includes any of the following:
In countries with widespread Ebola virus transmission: direct contact while using appropriate PPE with a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic
Close contact in households, health care facilities, or community settings with a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic
Close contact is defined as being for a prolonged period of time while not wearing appropriate PPE within approximately 3 feet (1 meter) of a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic

3. Low (but not zero) risk includes any of the following:
Having been in a country with widespread Ebola virus transmission within the past 21 days and having had no known exposures
Having brief direct contact (e.g., shaking hands) while not wearing appropriate PPE, with a person with Ebola while the person was in the early stage of disease
Brief proximity, such as being in the same room for a brief period of time, with a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic
In countries without widespread Ebola virus transmission: direct contact while using appropriate PPE with a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic
Traveled on an aircraft with a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic.

4. No identifiable risk includes:
Contact with an asymptomatic person who had contact with person with Ebola
Contact with a person with Ebola before the person developed symptoms
Having been more than 21 days previously in a country with widespread Ebola virus transmission
Having been in a country without widespread Ebola virus transmission and not having any other exposures as defined above.


Article about it, what it means in actions.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/cdc-tweaks-ebola-guidelines-travelers-n235011
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New CDC Risk categories for Ebola, Get your Info Here (Original Post) uppityperson Oct 2014 OP
Thank you for posting this etherealtruth Oct 2014 #1
#4 is, for instance, bowlers. uppityperson Oct 2014 #2
One can hope that that connection will be made etherealtruth Oct 2014 #3
Can we really be sure though? KMOD Oct 2014 #4
oh crap, I opened your reply, touched it!!!!!!! uppityperson Oct 2014 #5
Bah ha ha ha. Gold, all of you. Nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #6
Capable of electronic transmission? freshwest Oct 2014 #9
I've had a headache all evening magical thyme Oct 2014 #7
So selfish. So extremely selfish. KMOD Oct 2014 #10
I guess I'd better call out at work today... magical thyme Oct 2014 #22
But the Z in zucchini is on the other side of the alphabet from the E in Ebola. Chow down! freshwest Oct 2014 #8
You know nothing about E-coli, I mean eboli. KMOD Oct 2014 #11
Is that like e-broccoli? It cures everything! freshwest Oct 2014 #13
Hmmmm, ok KMOD Oct 2014 #15
No, no! You must hide *under* the bed! Please keep in touch with us at DU! freshwest Oct 2014 #17
You've given me my first smile of the day. Thank you! nt Ilsa Oct 2014 #19
Be nice or KMOD will cruifer you. uppityperson Oct 2014 #25
TY! Good thing I didn't ask what snacks he was buying for the long wait... freshwest Oct 2014 #31
she ;) KMOD Oct 2014 #32
Okay, KMOD! freshwest Oct 2014 #33
1 kick to not mock anyone or joke. This is a serious situatuin, please consider uppityperson Oct 2014 #12
I'm not kicking to mock or joke, either. Just kicking to keep your OP up on the page. freshwest Oct 2014 #14
any amount, anyone can spare, would be grately appreciated. KMOD Oct 2014 #16
Doctors without Borders have saved 1,000 people so far KMOD Oct 2014 #18
Returning doctors and nurses fit into the "some risk" category and should therefore be monitored apples and oranges Oct 2014 #20
your conclusion is incorrect. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #21
And the recommendation IS they monitor themselves, in some cases but not all, quarantine themselves uppityperson Oct 2014 #27
So, which risk category does Dr. Spencer fit into? boston bean Oct 2014 #23
i think it has to be two, because he had proper ppe. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #26
so i looked further. the bowlers, train riders would have been four, regarding spencer. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #28
Yes, those people are in category 4. uppityperson Oct 2014 #30
So far it I would say #2, unless he says otherwise. "Some risk" means some risk, not no risk. Even uppityperson Oct 2014 #29
Not very easy to catch it unlike Youdontwantthetruth Oct 2014 #24

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
1. Thank you for posting this
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 10:37 PM
Oct 2014

Hopefully we will not see any more idiotic political grandstanding, pandering and fear mongering (I won't hold my breath, but I can dream).

I doubt the uninformed will make use of this information, but again i can hope.

Thank you!!!!!

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
4. Can we really be sure though?
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 10:58 PM
Oct 2014

My neighbor keeps asking me to take some of her surplus zucchini from her garden. But the thing is, she's in a bowling league. And it's a travel league. Who knows her bowling ball has been. And knowing that she has stuck her fingers in a potentially infected bowling ball, and then hands me zucchini with her ebola germs, I just don't think I can take that chance. Sorry, but I think I'll avoid all bowlers for now.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
7. I've had a headache all evening
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 12:03 AM
Oct 2014

and that selfish, very sick Ebola nurse who has been spreading The Ebola all over New Jersey with a fever of 98.6 was driven past my Maine village earlier this evening while on her way to Ft. Kent. Which is only a few hours from me and we're in the same state. The Ebola state. ZOMG!!!1!1!11!!!!

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
10. So selfish. So extremely selfish.
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 12:25 AM
Oct 2014

She has infected 3/4 of NJ, 1/2 of NY, and now she has set her eyes on Maine. The ENTIRE NORTHEAST needs to go on LOCK DOWN, NOW!!!! I'm am NOT going to take any chances with this. I'm going to hide under my bed for 42 days. Maybe more. I've heard you can catch it up til 90 Days. So yeah, 90 days. I'm gonna stay in bed. Because of that selfish, dumb nurse.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
22. I guess I'd better call out at work today...
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 11:24 AM
Oct 2014

I'll be in bed for 21 days, emerging only to take my temp twice/day.

I'll let the hospital know too...guess they'll have to get somebody to cover for me for the next 21 days. As soon as they find somebody who isn't exposed.

Hey, this is working for me.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
8. But the Z in zucchini is on the other side of the alphabet from the E in Ebola. Chow down!
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 12:17 AM
Oct 2014


On the zucchini, not the bowling ball!

Disclaimer:

I'm just an anonymous internet poster, thus the very best person to ask for medical advice. If you doubt me, go to the link.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. Is that like e-broccoli? It cures everything!
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 01:31 AM
Oct 2014


Disclaimer:

Medical degree issued by the Rand Paul School of Quack Medicine.

S'okay if you don't believe. That dead animal on Rand's head told me about these things. You have to be part of the inner circle to know these secrets.

*winky-wink*

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
15. Hmmmm, ok
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 01:39 AM
Oct 2014

I'll hide in my bed for 90 days, or actually I think I heard that it's now 200 days. So yeah, I still don't trust you, but I will eat only broccoli for the next 200 days, just to be safe.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
12. 1 kick to not mock anyone or joke. This is a serious situatuin, please consider
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 12:58 AM
Oct 2014

donating to Doctors Without Borders to help care for, contain, educate, stop this awful epidemic. Unless it is stopped where it is epidemic, it will continue to spread.

If not for Liberians, Guineans, Siera Leoneans, the world, to stop it from spreading further here.


https://donate.doctorswithoutborders.org/onetime.cfm?source=AUU1300PHD01

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
14. I'm not kicking to mock or joke, either. Just kicking to keep your OP up on the page.
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 01:33 AM
Oct 2014

If my kicks bother you, just let me know, UP. Kicking without a post just kinda bugs me.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
16. any amount, anyone can spare, would be grately appreciated.
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 01:44 AM
Oct 2014

I'm joking about the US reaction, but is indeed no joke in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea.

That is where the real outbreak is as opposed to a bowling alley in NJ.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
18. Doctors without Borders have saved 1,000 people so far
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 07:26 AM
Oct 2014

If anyone needs any coaxing to donate, here's an excerpt of what they do.

But the group has pushed forward and announced this week that it had saved its 1,000th patient since March.

Kollie James, a teenage Liberian boy who lost his mother, two sisters and uncle to the disease, is now Ebola-free.

"Stop crying Papa, I will not die," Kollie told his despondent father from across the treatment center’s fence in Foya, Liberia, after he was diagnosed. "My sisters are gone, but I am going to survive and I will make you proud."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/24/ebola-survivors-doctors-without-borders_n_6041964.html

apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
20. Returning doctors and nurses fit into the "some risk" category and should therefore be monitored
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 11:11 AM
Oct 2014

if not quarantined. Their risk comes not only from "direct contact while using appropriate PPE with a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic," but also from contact they may inadvertantly have in the community (outside the hospital):

Close contact in households, health care facilities, or community settings with a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic

Close contact is defined as being for a prolonged period of time while not wearing appropriate PPE within approximately 3 feet (1 meter) of a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic


They also fit all of the low risk criteria since the virus is so widespread:

Having been in a country with widespread Ebola virus transmission within the past 21 days and having had no known exposures

Having brief direct contact (e.g., shaking hands) while not wearing appropriate PPE, with a person with Ebola while the person was in the early stage of disease

Brief proximity, such as being in the same room for a brief period of time, with a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic

In countries without widespread Ebola virus transmission: direct contact while using appropriate PPE with a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic

Traveled on an aircraft with a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic.


Low risk does not mean no risk. If just one small child gets it, then goes to daycare, it would spread like wildfire and this country would not have the resources to care for 100+ sick kids (and their caregivers).

boston bean

(36,220 posts)
23. So, which risk category does Dr. Spencer fit into?
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 11:32 AM
Oct 2014

Serious question.

It would seem #2, but he has ebola, which would put him in risk category #1, no?

He didn't know that he had contact with the body fluids of a person with Ebola while the person was symptomatic, while wearing proper PPE.

So, in actuality, he was always risk # 1.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
29. So far it I would say #2, unless he says otherwise. "Some risk" means some risk, not no risk. Even
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 12:37 PM
Oct 2014

#3 is not zero risk, as you may notice.

 
24. Not very easy to catch it unlike
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 11:34 AM
Oct 2014

have a piece of lead impacting your body at a high velocity which is easy to catch, especially easy if you are black and walking down the street minding your own business.

Over 30,000 Americans a year get infected with lead impacting their body at a high velocity and less than 10 people in America so far have gotten Ebola.

Ebola one can take precautions, as for pieces of lead impacting your body at high velocity, chances are you will get that before getting Ebola.

Both are totally preventable but only one is causing fear and panic amongst Americans and it is not the one that kills over 30,000 Americans a year.

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