Please name five LIVING Black American nationally known leaders

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whether you respect them or not.
not media figures, not athletes and not musicians,
even though they may have some similar standing or capabilities.
Real leaders within that community who look towards the beneficence
of an under served constituency of their peers.

[CurtEastPoint]

1. My congressman, John Lewis.

[Raine1967]

24. When I mooed to atlanta (from NY) we chose his district

to live in.

Strange to some maybe, but we are geeky that way.

He is a really nice man.

[pscot]

2. The President and maybe Jesse Jackson

Outside the NE corridor no one has ever heard of people like Corey Booker or Deval Patrick

[jen63]

35. Of course we have!

[tabbycat31]

3. Senator Cory Booker

[Le Taz Hot]

4. This is racist and divisive.

Through my 59 years I find that greatness and assholery can come in any color, shape, size, gender or sexual orientation.

[reddread]

5. a product perhaps, but not the cause

where were you last Saturday when we memorialized Lynn Graham?
Are you attempting to insinuate that the black American community is well served by non-black
leaders currently in power?

[Le Taz Hot]

7. I don't know but maybe I can remember the last time I beat my husband.

[reddread]

9. dont tell me about racist

that lady taught me a lot.
its a nasty disease that permeates.

[Le Taz Hot]

10. I don't believe I used the word in Post #7,

the one to which you are responding. Are you confused?

[reddread]

13. are you desperate?

because that is the weakest response I have ever seen.

[Le Taz Hot]

14. Really?

THE weakest? Of all time? Wow! I'm honored.

[hfojvt]

21. the black American community is

about as well served by those in power as the white American community is. White and black people in the top 20% are fairly well served. White and black people in the bottom 80% not very well served.

Would electing more black people help change that?

Depends on the person. Seems to me though that people like Obama and Cory Booker are part of the problem, and not part of the solution, whereas white males like Bernie Sanders and Tom Harkin and Al Franken are more part of the solution.

[MineralMan]

6. Again, you start with your list. Can't think of five?

President Obama
Al Sharpton
Jesse Jackson
Corey Booker
Keith Ellison

I could go on, but that's five.

Now, let's see your list or your statement that such leaders don't exist. This is the second of these threads you've posted. I'm still not sure what your point is.

[DeadLetterOffice]

23. I can't figure out the point either.

But I will admit it's taking an awful lot of resolve to keep myself from posting something truly hide-worthy in response to these OP's.

May be *that's* the point?

I dunno, but off to the ignore list reddread goes, lest I finally give in to my baser nature...

[cwydro]

8. Males again?

Or did you decide to be more inclusive this time?

[jwirr]

11. President Obama, Rep. Keith Ellison, Al Sharpton, and members of the Black Caucus.

[LostOne4Ever]

12. Here is mine

Obama
Shiela Jackson Lee
John Lewis
Corey Booker
Charlie Rangel

[JaneyVee]

15. Adding Ben Jealous and Michelle Obama to other posters lists.

[roody]

16. Alice Walker, Pres. Obama, Mrs. Obama,

Keith Ellison, Jesse Jackson

[Little Star]

17. Kamala Harris, Condoleezza Rice,

Vernon Jordan, Colin Powell & Myrlie Evers-Williams

[NCTraveler]

18. Please name five LIVING Black American nationally known leaders from Key Largo, FL.

That might be a good one for your next op. Not sure what results you are looking for but it seems you are heading in that direction. You are welcome for the help.

[cwydro]

26. LOL!

Perfect!

[cali]

20. Name five nationally known Irish American leaders (living of course)

then name 5 Jewish American nationally known leaders, etc.

What is the point of this?

[LWolf]

22. Is that what that other thread was about?

Not black men that I know and respect, but black "leaders?"

I'll give you a list, since you seem to have some point to make. I have to say, though, that I'm not a follower. I don't have "leaders." Leaders are for sheep. So while I recognize that public figures are seen as "leaders" by many, I'm not one of those many. So here's a list of 5 living black public figures; while it wasn't one of your requirements, I do respect all of these people, whether or not I agree with them all the time:

Cynthia McKinney
John Conyers
Barbara Lee
Jesse Jackson
Maxine Waters

[reddread]

31. no, pretty obviously it wasnt

it could have been, and it could have been narrowed in many ways, but that is not my idea of discussion fodder.
plus, essentially, I dont want to impact the dynamic of a loose informal survey.
being called racist by local foothill dwellers who are (lemme tellya) NOT surrounded by folks of dark complection is simply a bonus. While Im out trying to provide some food and tents to "black people" and others who are still on the street after incarceration, I cant even work up the curiosity what they are doing to help a very serious problem.
Ima guess jackshit.
your list is very close to mine.
Im pretty sure Jesse was extinguished handily.
why? Im not so sure.
lack of liberal support in the onslaught of white right payback I guess.
is the problem Black America faces any of my business?
not necessarily.
is it President Obama's?
is it yours?
people obviously dont like being provoked on this subject.
do I give a fuck?

[LWolf]

38. I don't mind being provoked,

if it provokes some interesting thinking.

[reddread]

39. anyone willing to mention Cynthia McKinney

round here has my undying respect. wonder how it would have flown were I to have proffered?

[LWolf]

42. I'd say more about

McKinney, but it would be breaking certain rules here.

Enough to note that, were I to rank politicians who I support as well as respect, she'd be in the top ten.

[Travelman]

25. Several have been named

Off the top of my head, based upon your specific qualifications as "leaders," "nationally-known," "living," and "not media figures/athletes/media figures," etc., as well as "whether you respect them or not."


Barack Obama (if someone doesn't know who he is, then they've got a serious problem, and "leader" is pretty well defined as POTUS)
Michelle Obama (again, hard to imagine anyone in the country doesn't know who she is, and again "leader" as FLOTUS, an active one)
Someone above named Corey Booker. There could be a question as to whether he's "nationally-known" or not, but "leader" is pretty well-defined, actually when he was a mayor.
I actually discount both Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, under the "media figures" clause. It's a technicality, but just to ensure that we're covering all bases here....
There's an argument to be made for Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré. Definitely a leader (you don't make Lt. Gen. by not displaying leadership), and a whole lot of people immediately recognize his name, though "nationally-known" could be an argued point.
Louis Farrakhan (sp?) is certainly nationally-known and is certainly a "leader" as the head of the NOI.
Ben Carson, pretty much without any doubt whatsoever, is nationally-known, and certainly to the right-hand side of the aisle is considered a leader. "Respect" is a bit questionable for me: I deeply respect that he was one of the world's finest neurosurgeons, that he managed to bootstrap himself from the ghetto, that he has taken on his personal demons of anger and such, but on the other side of the equation, I definitely am not in line with his fundamentalism or his politics.
Someone mentioned Condi Rice. I'd certainly say she qualifies.
Eric Holder is most definitely nationally-known, and is pretty clearly a leader as AG.
Ben Jealous is certainly a leader, though I don't know if he necessarily fits "nationally-known."
And I think I would probably argue that Antonio French is both a leader and nationally-known at this point.

[sweetloukillbot]

28. A couple more controversial choices...

Colin Powell and Allan West. May not agree with them, but they are certainly political leaders. Although I can see both being argued as "media figures" now that they are out of government.

[eShirl]

27. Why?

[Rex]

29. You first.

[kestrel91316]

30. Oh. YOU with THIS sort of thing again.....................already??

[AverageJoe90]

32. Here's a few:

Barack Obama. John Lewis. Shirley Chisholm. Al Sharpton. And I think Michelle Obama counts, too.

[mythology]

33. Again with this?

Keith Ellison, Barack Obama, Eric Holder, Deval Patrick, John Lewis, Susan Rice, Colin Powell.

While I wouldn't include them, there are people who look up to Clarence Thomas and Condoleezza Rice and Alan Rice. Granted most of those people look up to them as the "good" type of black, or to prove they aren't racist, but still people do hold them in esteem.

But I do wonder what your next request and moving the goal posts on this will be.

But if you want leaders, go to your city, find the people working at homeless shelters, or in schools, or making sure the garbage gets picked up or at hospitals. Those people are as much leaders as anybody in Washington and most of us will never know their names. And yes some of the are African Americans, some of them are other minorities, whether of skin color or gender or sexual orientation or religion, some of them aren't. So whatever you're actually after with this silliness seeming to claim that there aren't African American leaders, you're wrong.

[reddread]

34. I love sharks, what kind did you see jumped?

"Homeless shelters" are no place to find leaders.
profiteers, maybe.

[joeybee12]

36. I assume someone has already alerted on this racist drivel...

Or I would, but this stinker of a thread has been around long enough so i assume it has been...shame it wasn't hidden.

[reddread]

37. YEAH, PITY

because we are SO post race in modern America

[Doctor_J]

39. why?

[reddread]

41. why?

Im kinky. I love to fantasize about REPRESENTATION.