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alp227

(31,962 posts)
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 01:57 PM Apr 2012

Man kills wife outside divorce lawyer's office

A Petaluma man shot and killed his estranged wife outside her divorce lawyer's office before turning the gun on himself, authorities said Monday.

Kevin Conover, 41, shot his wife, Kim Conover, 43, with a revolver outside a law office on Keller Street in downtown Petaluma about 2 p.m. Sunday, authorities said. He then shot himself.

(...)

There was no restraining order involving the couple, and Kim Conover did not contact police the day of the shootings to report feeling threatened, Lyons said.

Kim Conover had four children, police said. Lyons said Kevin Conover was the father of at least some of them, but that police did not immediately know how many.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/16/BAAV1O3U75.DTL

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Man kills wife outside divorce lawyer's office (Original Post) alp227 Apr 2012 OP
Good That He Had A Gun, Sir: Think Of What Might Have Happened If He Had Not The Magistrate Apr 2012 #1
Guns don't kill people... Speck Tater Apr 2012 #4
No if he hadn't had a gun then he be in jail for assault and battery...and movonne Apr 2012 #6
Yes, because prior to firearms, no one ever killed anyone. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #7
Have you ever killed someone, Lizzie? EFerrari Apr 2012 #14
OK. Clearly SARCASM needs to be more clearly labelled. nt Speck Tater Apr 2012 #15
It could be labeled and lit and still be wrong. nt EFerrari Apr 2012 #16
Except, of course, it was right. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #19
And yet we have 12X the gun violence of 25 other first world nations. EFerrari Apr 2012 #20
The NRA? Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #21
Yup, OJ Simpson totally agrees with you. Zalatix Apr 2012 #12
+1000 abelenkpe Apr 2012 #5
Dateline, 48 Hours otohara Apr 2012 #2
What an asshole. Those poor children. nt MADem Apr 2012 #3
And THAT is why I don't practice family law ... Bake Apr 2012 #8
Not the reason I don't practice it DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #11
Reminds me of this quote Dokkie Apr 2012 #9
I couldn't resist - I posted a story on the wife killing a husband banned from Kos Apr 2012 #10
The article says there was no restraining order as if that would have helped. EFerrari Apr 2012 #13
I don't know that it implies it would have helped DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #17
You may be right. I'm reading "in" too much. n/t EFerrari Apr 2012 #18

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
1. Good That He Had A Gun, Sir: Think Of What Might Have Happened If He Had Not
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:02 PM
Apr 2012

The harm done to Liberty would have been incalculable....

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
4. Guns don't kill people...
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:10 PM
Apr 2012

Last edited Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:52 PM - Edit history (1)

Lawyers do.

What we need is lawyer control. We can't have people walking around outside lawyers offices whenever they feel like it. That kind of risky behavior is just inviting trouble.

ON EDIT: (Apparently some people took this seriously!?!?!)

movonne

(9,623 posts)
6. No if he hadn't had a gun then he be in jail for assault and battery...and
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:56 PM
Apr 2012

their kids wouldn't be orphans....

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
14. Have you ever killed someone, Lizzie?
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:46 PM
Apr 2012

It's a lot harder if you don't have a machine that will do it for you.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
19. Except, of course, it was right.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 11:07 AM
Apr 2012

The post to which I replied stated, "...if he hadn't had a gun then he be in jail for assault and battery..." That's simply not something one can state in such an unequivocal manner. Plenty of homicides are committed by other methods. Firearms are more efficient weapons than most, but for someone like the guy in question here (that is, someone very probably determined to kill), there are plenty of options that will get the job done with only slightly greater effort or difficulty.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
20. And yet we have 12X the gun violence of 25 other first world nations.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:38 PM
Apr 2012

No, it wasn't right unless you accept the NRA talking point that violent crime is trending lower, which only demonstrates that damn statistics can be manipulated to fool the credulous.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
21. The NRA?
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:20 PM
Apr 2012

I pay very little attention to their pronouncements, save for the unintentional comedy factor. That violent crime is trending downwards is something demonstrated by the Dept. of Justice's NCS stats, and if you've an issue with their methodologies, feel free to state your case (rather than engage in implied ad hominem).

In any case, that's all completely irrelevant to the point I was making, which was that the poster to which I responded made an indefensible claim (that absent firearms, the murder victim in the story would have only suffered assault and battery). At mose, one can onhly legitimately claim that she might have suffered a lesser crime, not that she would have. Surely I needn't repeat that a third time...?

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
11. Not the reason I don't practice it
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:35 PM
Apr 2012

but it's certainly the case that these kinds of things happen far more often in divorce/custody situations than any other. I've practiced major felony criminal defense for almost 20 years have never had a security issue that would come close to that.

 

Dokkie

(1,688 posts)
9. Reminds me of this quote
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:13 PM
Apr 2012

“When People Lose Everything, They Have Nothing Left To Lose, And They Lose It”
Gerald Celente

Not condoning the killing or implying that is what happened here but I have heard some really bad horror stories about family courts where the courts put the screws up one of the parents(usually the man) arse.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
13. The article says there was no restraining order as if that would have helped.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:42 PM
Apr 2012

Restraining orders can be provocative to a certain type of abusive spouse, a challenge. And they are not magic shields against harm.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
17. I don't know that it implies it would have helped
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 04:13 PM
Apr 2012

so much as it implies that there hadn't been previous threats or violence between them.

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