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Omaha Steve

(99,564 posts)
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 05:18 AM Oct 2014

Jimmy Johns Being Sued by Former Employees (illegal donations 2 Sheriff Joe Arpaio hunting endangere


http://guardianlv.com/2014/10/jimmy-johns-being-sued-by-former-employees/

Added by Kristi Cereska on October 20, 2014.




Jimmy Johns has been in the news a lot in the last few years, and this time it is due to a lawsuit that is taking the fast food chain to court by its former employees. It seems that the food conglomerate makes all employees sign a non-competition form that forbids them from working for any other sandwich shop for two years. This includes their lowest wage earners, the makers of the sandwiches and the “freaky fast” delivery drivers.

Many are familiar with this type of clause, but most are managers or persons with intimate knowledge into the actual business side of a company. This radical across the board signing of the non-competition form forbids employees from working in any place of business that has pretty much any type of sandwich, from subs to rolled or wrapped sandwiches for two years. This is a tough spot for the thousands of teens and young adults that enter the work place, only to find that in their geographical area, the easiest job to get, is at a sandwich shop. Many of these kids are not yet driving and their logistical area for employment is minimal.

One such student that left Jimmy Johns was prevented from working anywhere in the Tuscaloosa Ala. area, as all the local shops fall into the parameters of the Jimmy Johns non-competition guidelines. The sandwich company is no stranger to being embroiled in legal battles with their employees, as some are fighting to get union representation while others are in a fight with what was deemed unfair in their labor practices.



Jimmy JohnsThe owner of Jimmy Johns is a big game hunter who has been under fire for the photos he posts with his kills, and for providing funds that are suspect to a sheriffs association, which some are claiming keeps him from getting into trouble for some of his hunting that involves endangered species. Jimmy John Liautaud has also been called by many in the media as a “right winged nut,” citing his involvement in the scandal around anti-immigration advocate Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona. They state that the fast food giant donated as much as $10,000 in 2008, and in spite of the scandal that followed he did not come under any investigation of the donated funds.

FULL story at link.


And this: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Lawsuit-Jimmy-John-s-bars-employees-from-working-5824918.php

Liautaud has been criticized for hunting big game, Raw Story reported, and donating funds to an allegedly illegal re-election fund for controversial Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona.

Photos published by Smile Politely show Liautaud posing with two dead elephants and a dead leopard shot and killed while on a safari facilitated by Johan Calitz Safaris, based in South Africa.





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Jimmy Johns Being Sued by Former Employees (illegal donations 2 Sheriff Joe Arpaio hunting endangere (Original Post) Omaha Steve Oct 2014 OP
Sounds to me like Jimmy John needs an attitude adjustment Jamastiene Oct 2014 #1
One just opened around work and hubby suggested we stop by and get a sub for lunch woodsprite Oct 2014 #27
Vile human, absolutely vile !!!!!! SamKnause Oct 2014 #2
Another placei ain't gonna go to. Hoppy Oct 2014 #3
Non-compete clauses of thos sort are not enforcible. Jenoch Oct 2014 #4
Actually in many states they are enforceable titaniumsalute Oct 2014 #5
What was the area of expertise and the Jenoch Oct 2014 #10
Radio and TV titaniumsalute Oct 2014 #12
Ok, that makes sense (I have some experience in broadcasting as well.) Jenoch Oct 2014 #14
I completely agree that a sandwich maker is much different than either talent or sales titaniumsalute Oct 2014 #15
I've never heard of non-competes in sales. Jenoch Oct 2014 #16
Most radio and TV used to have non-competes titaniumsalute Oct 2014 #17
I live in the Twin Cities Jenoch Oct 2014 #19
I started on air in radio titaniumsalute Oct 2014 #21
In what business are you a regional manager? Jenoch Oct 2014 #23
Radio is so not good anymore titaniumsalute Oct 2014 #24
I'm in the Twin Cities and the CBS station Jenoch Oct 2014 #25
They've got trade secrets on how to slap meat and cheese inside some bread? tanyev Oct 2014 #6
If the workers are under 18, freebrew Oct 2014 #7
A non-compete clause does NOT have to be enforced through legal action to make it work fasttense Oct 2014 #8
Well I'll never eat from that place again Botany Oct 2014 #9
One sick mutha. City Lights Oct 2014 #11
I knew that there was a reason to hate Jimmy Johns. Initech Oct 2014 #13
The decor he allows in his stores is enough of a reason for me jmowreader Oct 2014 #18
So I won't be going there any more... truebrit71 Oct 2014 #20
I don't know that we have any of those around here. NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #22
Should Jimmy John's come to Connecticut (as Hobby Lobby has) Dawson Leery Oct 2014 #26

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
1. Sounds to me like Jimmy John needs an attitude adjustment
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 05:24 AM
Oct 2014

from the public, ala boycotts and making damn sure everyone knows what kind of filthy, disgusting asshole he is.

woodsprite

(11,909 posts)
27. One just opened around work and hubby suggested we stop by and get a sub for lunch
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:58 PM
Oct 2014

I educated him on just why we weren't going to do that! I'm not sure exactly how much business they're getting. For a relatively new shop in a Univ. town, they didn't look very busy.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
4. Non-compete clauses of thos sort are not enforcible.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 07:47 AM
Oct 2014

If I had been stupid enough to sig. One I would not worry about it because it would cost more in legal fees to enforce than it is worth.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
5. Actually in many states they are enforceable
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 07:51 AM
Oct 2014

Ohio is one of them. I used to work in an industry with a non-compete. I had friends sue to get out of them and they all lost. Some states have a right to work clause and non-competes are mostly not upheld. But many states do uphold them.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
14. Ok, that makes sense (I have some experience in broadcasting as well.)
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 01:14 PM
Oct 2014

There is talent involved. There is a contract involved. I do not believe a fast food worker can be subject to a non-compete. I think it is just intimidation.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
15. I completely agree that a sandwich maker is much different than either talent or sales
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 01:27 PM
Oct 2014

I get it in radio...if a big rated talk host walks out and goes to the station down the street they can do some pretty serious revenue damage to a radio station. Same thing if a veteran salesperson does the same thing.

I think that the states that uphold the contracts don't base it on industry but rather overall precedent. If they rule that a non-compete is not effective in one industry, how can they defend or draw the lines with other industries?

I think Jimmy Johns is a shit company for those intimidating practices. (Among other things...)

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
19. I live in the Twin Cities
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 06:59 PM
Oct 2014

and am a recovering radio advertising salesman (ha). The major talent on radio and TV have non-compete clauses, but I've seen sales people jump around. The sales managers are always poaching the big producers, sometimes making promises they don't keep.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
21. I started on air in radio
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:08 PM
Oct 2014

I did evening talk radio. I was 19 years old and they made me sign a non-compete. (Like who the hell was going to steal me away...LOL.) I did that for six years and then went into sales to make a few bucks. Also had a non-compete. 50 mile radius which sucked because three metros were within 50 miles.

I honestly don't remember if I had a non-compete in sales when I moved to Ft. Myers and worked for Beasley. After that I spent 10 years at Arbitron. No non-compete...we had no competition.

I'm not in radio or TV now. I am a Regional Manager. My CEO wanted me to sign a non-compete. I told him no way. They still hired me.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
23. In what business are you a regional manager?
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:00 PM
Oct 2014

I started as a 16 year old radio announcer at a small town station. I worked my way through college on the air and then went into sales. I worked at five different stations before getting into the other side of the business, ad/PR/government relations. I was never asked to sign a noncompete.

On a side note, the Poratable People Meter really shook things up in the radio ratings.

I am saddened at what has happened to the radio business since the 1996 Telecommunications Act relaxed the number of stations a corporation could own. Clear Channel, Cumulus, and Beasely for that matter, have not resulted as a good thing for radio broadcasting. I thino radio should always be locally owned and locally focused, just like politics. We'll never see local broadcasting again, except for the remainng few.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
24. Radio is so not good anymore
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:00 AM
Oct 2014

In general radio is very weak today. As Clear Channel, Cumulus, and others started buying stations for huge dollar amounts they had to cut significant costs to pay for the debt. The result, of course, is piss poor radio today. Homogenized, sterile, and boring is the best way to describe most radio.

There, of course, are some exceptions. CBS still has a number of their all news stations like 1010 WINS, CBS 880, KYW, and WBBM. At least these stations are still 100% local content. But most is just a clone of 350 other stations around the country.

Yes, the PPM did shake things up. It is such a better measurement device than the diary. It ended up pointing out flaws in the diary therefore some formats did get tweaked in the ratings. Stations with big TSL generally went down in the PPM (the time spent listening was exaggerated in the diary) and stations with big Cume got even bigger (like Top 40/CHR.)

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
25. I'm in the Twin Cities and the CBS station
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:54 PM
Oct 2014

is still local, but the programming is terrible and it shows in their ratings. WCCO dominated the market for decades but is now a shadow of it's former self.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
7. If the workers are under 18,
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 08:06 AM
Oct 2014

how can any contract be enforced? Don't the parents have to sign as well?

Just wondering...

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
8. A non-compete clause does NOT have to be enforced through legal action to make it work
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 08:36 AM
Oct 2014

Yes, if Jimmy Johns sued its minimum wage employees to keep them from working for years in any fast food restaurant it would be ridiculously expensive. But they don't have to. All they have to do is let it be known in the area that they have this clause and employers in the area will NOT hire anyone putting that store on their resume. With so few jobs it would be quite easy to carefully avoid hiring prior Jimmy John employees. In affect, other employers enforce the clause for them. What employer wants to face possible legal action because they hired a minimum wage worker?

This is exactly what happened to my husband. He was a a low level manager and though he didn't put the experience on his resume, it frequently came out in interviews. Everyone knew his employer had a non-compete clause and did not want to hire him. He even asked one employer why he wasn't hired and she told him they didn't want a lawsuit from his former employer. And this was in a supposedly right to work state.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
11. One sick mutha.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:43 AM
Oct 2014

Haven't eaten there in years and definitely will never set foot in one of his shit sandwich shops again.

Initech

(100,055 posts)
13. I knew that there was a reason to hate Jimmy Johns.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 12:59 PM
Oct 2014

Giving money to that douchebag Sheriff Joe is all I need.

jmowreader

(50,546 posts)
18. The decor he allows in his stores is enough of a reason for me
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 03:33 PM
Oct 2014

There's a Jimmy John's in downtown Spokane that has a "hippies, use back door" sign hanging on the wall. I refuse to patronize any business that has one, even at personal cost to me. And since Jimmy John's is a chain, I figure every business in that chain is equally culpable.

I've also seen the prices - way too expensive for what you get.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
20. So I won't be going there any more...
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 07:16 PM
Oct 2014

Fuck that shit, canned hunting AND giving money to that racist piece of crap...

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
22. I don't know that we have any of those around here.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:19 PM
Oct 2014

I've never been to one anyway. After seeing this, I'm glad. Liautaud is obviously a douchebag. In my opinion, anyone who hunts these animals is a douchebag.

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