Sat Oct 18, 2014, 06:28 AM

If you seriously care about gaming, you better pay attention to #Gamergate and its damage.

Once it descended into threats and people having to leave their homes, it STOPPED being about ethics among gamers and journalists. Now it's about people in fear for their lives because somebody has a problem with their ethics?

Gamers can claim that the threats are from a minority. That may be, but now the whole lot of them are tarred with the poison from those groups.

Some posts are a great example. Not ONCE do they address the threats and very real problems created by this so-called ethical cleanup. People have had to leave their homes, but some are going to ignore that and insist it's about ethics and journalism. It has gone waaaay beyond that now and it's a question of the moral compass of gamers.

No matter how this started out, it's a brush fire of hate that every gamer better try to stop. I know of nothing in years that has damaged the gamer community this much in the public mind. Good luck convincing anybody that it's a harmless activity now.

Gamers better get off their asses and push back hard against the brutal mysogny and hate or you will never be taken seriously again.

I can't hear the gamers' complaints about ethics and journalism over the death threats and neither can a lot of other people.

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If you seriously care about gaming, you better pay attention to #Gamergate and its damage. (Original post)	Are_grits_groceries	Oct 2014	OP
I am paying attention	Prophet 451	Oct 2014	#1
It is a quandry.	Are_grits_groceries	Oct 2014	#3
Which leaves one feeling so bloody impotent	Prophet 451	Oct 2014	#4
I'm going to get a beanbag chair and see what my kittens do.	Are_grits_groceries	Oct 2014	#5
it may seem that you can't do much, but in my opinion, doing something in your own life	BlancheSplanchnik	Oct 2014	#7
you "care about getting more women into gaming"? What does that mean? Why?	KittyWampus	Oct 2014	#10
GTA is third person.	Skeeter Barnes	Oct 2014	#11
Still graphic violence though. AND > “Grand Theft Auto V” Is Now A First Person Shooter*	KittyWampus	Oct 2014	#14
Of course it's violent. Just like an R rated movie.	Skeeter Barnes	Oct 2014	#15
Wow, did you break something jumping to those conclusions?	Prophet 451	Oct 2014	#13
Do you play any games that don't require a console? I will join and try.	KittyWampus	Oct 2014	#17
I play dozens of games without a console.	NutmegYankee	Oct 2014	#20
Minecraft is really good	Prophet 451	Oct 2014	#21
Keyboard isn't more difficult.	NutmegYankee	Oct 2014	#22
Keyboard is more difficult for the Lego games	Prophet 451	Oct 2014	#28
My little great grandson plays Mindcraft and plays it with his sister. And I think it is a good game	jwirr	Oct 2014	#42
Most of us are fine playing with women	Prophet 451	Oct 2014	#69
Yes, I know. The boys in our family are all gamers and if they were misogynists I would be the one	jwirr	Oct 2014	#70
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Nov 2015	#71
Adam Baldwin sent his twitter troglodytes after Wu.	JaneyVee	Oct 2014	#2
"...but now the whole lot of them are tarred with the poison from those groups."	Android3.14	Oct 2014	#6
see, this is the thing....you'd sound a lot more sincere if you did one thing first....	BlancheSplanchnik	Oct 2014	#8
Looks like hypocrisy is the thing	Android3.14	Oct 2014	#46
you seem to believe that mentioning a serious prroblem--which is acknowledged asa global epidemic --	BlancheSplanchnik	Oct 2014	#49
Wait. Seriously?	NaturalHigh	Oct 2014	#53
violence against women is a global epidemic. gamergate is merely	BlancheSplanchnik	Oct 2014	#55
I obviously misinterpreted your previous post.	NaturalHigh	Oct 2014	#56
thank you very much!	BlancheSplanchnik	Oct 2014	#60
.	NaturalHigh	Oct 2014	#64
Please allow me to clarify	Android3.14	Oct 2014	#62
ok, there's a basic miscommunication going on here.....right now, I just	BlancheSplanchnik	Oct 2014	#66
Wait? Wut?	Are_grits_groceries	Oct 2014	#67
Bingo	maced666	Oct 2014	#12
No.	Are_grits_groceries	Oct 2014	#24
Then I respectfully ask that you refrain from adding to the noise	Android3.14	Oct 2014	#47
When and how did "gamers" come to mean first person shooters & graphic violence?	KittyWampus	Oct 2014	#9
As a Gamer	Nativechef	Oct 2014	#16
you just strengthened my analogy to how media refers to Fundies when Christianity comes up...	KittyWampus	Oct 2014	#19
worthy of its own thread	Skittles	Oct 2014	#36
Excellent post, thank you and hope to hear more from you.	LawDeeDah	Oct 2014	#41
so how do the "trolls" become the outspoken majority of gamers online?	alp227	Oct 2014	#44
Their not the majority	Nativechef	Oct 2014	#52
Why is it the obligation of a grandma who plays Farmville to stop the assholes?	AngryAmish	Oct 2014	#18
Nobody.	Are_grits_groceries	Oct 2014	#23
I'm not a gamer. According to you I have no obligations of any sort.	AngryAmish	Oct 2014	#25
what defines a gamer in the community? i get where you're coming from; these "people" are scumbags.	dionysus	Oct 2014	#58
Why do YOU allow trolls on DU?	antiquie	Oct 2014	#27
4-3 to leave this post. Me... leave.	cherokeeprogressive	Oct 2014	#45
From a good article about all this...	gater	Oct 2014	#26
In other words, we should consider the media the arbitrar of who constitutes 'gamers'.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Oct 2014	#31
Ummm, I take it you did not read the article then. That's cool.	gater	Oct 2014	#32
Ok, now I read the article.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Oct 2014	#33
Here's the thing about #Gamergate that I really don't grok:	Coventina	Oct 2014	#29
You're right, it's made-up bullshit. An excuse to attack women in gaming. n/t	nomorenomore08	Oct 2014	#57
Take it to the police.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Oct 2014	#30
Second that. If people are making death threats or terroristic threats, that's a crime.	Comrade Grumpy	Oct 2014	#34
Thanks, grits. Lives are more important.	freshwest	Oct 2014	#35
My daughter bought me this little Atari device...	NaturalHigh	Oct 2014	#37
I care as a liberal and a mild gamer	LostOne4Ever	Oct 2014	#38
Great post.	ZombieHorde	Oct 2014	#40
Gamers do need to get off their asses.	ileus	Oct 2014	#39
I care seriously about threats...	99Forever	Oct 2014	#43
Gamergate was never about the industry. It's sexist MRA / SJW bullshit.	chrisa	Oct 2014	#48
+1 it just shows there are assholes in every community..	SomethingFishy	Oct 2014	#50
The type of men doing this shit will not listen to anyone.	MicaelS	Oct 2014	#51
If the ones driving people from their homes are arrested and charged with making terroristic threats	nomorenomore08	Oct 2014	#59
Of course, threats should be taken seriously	Shankapotomus	Oct 2014	#54
Yawn	BlindTiresias	Oct 2014	#61
Would it offend you to say I have no idea what you're talking about?	brooklynite	Oct 2014	#63
60 second intro	LostInAnomie	Oct 2014	#65
I love gaming and I'm paying no attention whatsoever.	PorridgeGun	Oct 2014	#68

Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat Oct 18, 2014, 07:48 AM

Prophet 451 (9,796 posts)

1. I am paying attention

I'm just buggered if I know what to do about it.

If you seriously care about gaming, you better pay attention to #Gamergate and its damage.

1. I am paying attention

3. It is a quandry.

4. Which leaves one feeling so bloody impotent

5. I'm going to get a beanbag chair and see what my kittens do.

7. it may seem that you can't do much, but in my opinion, doing something in your own life

10. you "care about getting more women into gaming"? What does that mean? Why?

11. GTA is third person.

14. Still graphic violence though. AND > “Grand Theft Auto V” Is Now A First Person Shooter*

15. Of course it's violent. Just like an R rated movie.

13. Wow, did you break something jumping to those conclusions?

17. Do you play any games that don't require a console? I will join and try.

20. I play dozens of games without a console.

21. Minecraft is really good

22. Keyboard isn't more difficult.

28. Keyboard is more difficult for the Lego games

42. My little great grandson plays Mindcraft and plays it with his sister. And I think it is a good game

69. Most of us are fine playing with women

70. Yes, I know. The boys in our family are all gamers and if they were misogynists I would be the one

2. Adam Baldwin sent his twitter troglodytes after Wu.

6. "...but now the whole lot of them are tarred with the poison from those groups."

8. see, this is the thing....you'd sound a lot more sincere if you did one thing first....

46. Looks like hypocrisy is the thing

49. you seem to believe that mentioning a serious prroblem--which is acknowledged asa global epidemic --

53. Wait. Seriously?

55. violence against women is a global epidemic. gamergate is merely

56. I obviously misinterpreted your previous post.

60. thank you very much!

64. .

62. Please allow me to clarify

66. ok, there's a basic miscommunication going on here.....right now, I just

67. Wait? Wut?

12. Bingo

24. No.

47. Then I respectfully ask that you refrain from adding to the noise

9. When and how did "gamers" come to mean first person shooters & graphic violence?

16. As a Gamer

19. you just strengthened my analogy to how media refers to Fundies when Christianity comes up...

36. worthy of its own thread

41. Excellent post, thank you and hope to hear more from you.

44. so how do the "trolls" become the outspoken majority of gamers online?

52. Their not the majority

18. Why is it the obligation of a grandma who plays Farmville to stop the assholes?

23. Nobody.

25. I'm not a gamer. According to you I have no obligations of any sort.

58. what defines a gamer in the community? i get where you're coming from; these "people" are scumbags.

27. Why do YOU allow trolls on DU?

45. 4-3 to leave this post. Me... leave.

26. From a good article about all this...

31. In other words, we should consider the media the arbitrar of who constitutes 'gamers'.

32. Ummm, I take it you did not read the article then. That's cool.

33. Ok, now I read the article.

29. Here's the thing about #Gamergate that I really don't *grok*:

57. You're right, it's made-up bullshit. An excuse to attack women in gaming. n/t

30. Take it to the police.

34. Second that. If people are making death threats or terroristic threats, that's a crime.

35. Thanks, grits. Lives are more important.

37. My daughter bought me this little Atari device...

38. I care as a liberal and a mild gamer

40. Great post.

39. Gamers do need to get off their asses.

43. I care seriously about threats...

48. Gamergate was never about the industry. It's sexist MRA / SJW bullshit.

50. +1 it just shows there are assholes in every community..

51. The type of men doing this shit will not listen to anyone.

59. If the ones driving people from their homes are arrested and charged with making terroristic threats

54. Of course, threats should be taken seriously

61. Yawn

63. Would it offend you to say I have no idea what you're talking about?

65. 60 second intro

68. I love gaming and I'm paying no attention whatsoever.

29. Here's the thing about #Gamergate that I really don't grok: