Breaking: Ferguson protestors have in some way occupied Ferguson WalMart

[KingCharlemagne]

(on Florissant). Cops have front of store surrounded.

No business as usual. Wow!

StlDagger's live stream at link below:

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9690208/events/3455319

[RobertEarl]

1. They are just shopping

No law against shopping, is there?

Bwahahaha

[KingCharlemagne]

2. Sorry. the cops have shut MallWart, shut down the parking lot and are now

trying to eject protesters from 'private property.'

Very effective hit-n-run- tactic by protesters. Sincere hat tip for their courage.

[KingCharlemagne]

3. UPDATE: Protest has moved across the street now to a QuikTrip. WM apparently

is back open. Fog of war. Kind of unclear.

[KingCharlemagne]

4. UPDATE: Parallel protest at McCaskill fundraiser (Stenger) in Kirkwood. Now

over, but still livestreaming from there:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/maryamaquarium

[KingCharlemagne]

5. UPDATE: Protesters occupying another WalMart in Maplewood. Police putting on

riot gear and taking up an arrest line.

[cwydro]

6. How does anyone "occupy" a Walmart? nt

[KingCharlemagne]

26. Very carefully? These protesters are geniuses at tactical

hit and runs. I salute their courage and fortitude. This truiy is a 'shot heard round the world.'

[Egnever]

7. How is this helpful?

I don't get it. What did walmart have to do with the young mans shooting?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

8. Haven't you been paying attention? They are engaging in civil disobedience to protest

"the young man's shooting". That young man had a name: Mike Brown.

[Egnever]

9. Pretty crappy way to garner support

By attempting to shut down local businesses. Seems like a good way to raise unemployment and drive out business from your community. I sure as hell wouldn't be opening a business there if this is what passes as effective pretesting.

Seems like shooting yourself in the foot to me.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

10. Well, go hide under your bed then when you become a victim of injustice. nt

[Egnever]

13. Right because hiding under your bed is the other option to

disrupting a business that had nothing whatsoever to do with the shooting.

Walmart is despicable to be sure for a lot of reasons but they had nothing at all to do with the shooting, it's like kicking your dog cause your cat peed on the bed. Has zero effect on the cat and makes the dog think you're an asshole.

[Live and Learn]

18. One of the shootings happened in a WalMart. nt

[WillowTree]

56. Then again, WalMart didn't shoot that fella.

I realize it's lots of fun to hate WalMart just on principle, but I have a lot of trouble blaming the store for the shooting just because it happened there.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

30. Again, you are not paying attention? Don't you care? Another black man that

was minding his own business and talking on his cell phone was gunned down in cold blood by cops and nothing was done about it.

Spare any more of your silliness about Walmart.

[Egnever]

32. You keep repeating that as if walmart had anything to do with it.

Walmart had fuck all to do with that shooting and you know it. Could have happened anywhere.

Could have happened anywhere, and that is the issue, not walmart. Disrupting business makes the protesters look like criminals instead of people standing up for justice and undercuts the message entirely.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

33. It's NOT ABOUT WALMART! nt

[Egnever]

34. It is now.

Protesters just made it about walmart. Pretty fucking stupid if you ask me.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

35. No, what's pretty fucking stupid is your refusal to get off the fucking Walmart band-

wagon and remember that the goddamned cops, who are the target of protesters, murdered John Crawford at a Walmart in Ohio and THAT is why the protesters are going to Walmarts - to draw attention to the injustice of the murder of JOHN CRAWFORD.

JOHN CRAWFORD, yet another black man whose name you, for some reason, do not know!

[Egnever]

39. Again Walmart had fuck all to do with that

so shutting them down purposefully is misdirected anger.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

41. AGAIN, it's NOT about Walmart. I'm done with your ass. nt

[LeftyMom]

11. "local"?

WalMart is a good way to raise unemployment and drive actual local businesses under.

[Egnever]

12. fair enough

still it's like yelling at your cab driver because your mail wasn't delivered on time. The two have nothing to do with each other.

[Live and Learn]

20. Don't be silly. An innocent man was shot in a WalMart. Please pay attention. nt

[Egnever]

28. And wal mart had what to do with that other than being the location?

Whats next protesting schools cause kids were shot at them?

[Live and Learn]

44. People can protest wherever the heck they want to.

They chose to do a protest at several WalMarts to commemorate Crawford. Why is that a problem for you? Nobody is shutting your shopping choice down permanently.

[morningfog]

23. The corporate and the state are one.

The bigger the business the quicker the police are to respond and with greater force. They are two arms of the same system.

[morningfog]

17. Since when is wal mart a local business?

[Egnever]

22. Oh so that makes it ok?

Totally ridiculous. If you think the local businesses aren't watching that thinking I could be next you are dreaming.

[morningfog]

24. Good!

[Egnever]

27. Wow really?

So the message from Ferguson is now fuck business we dont want you!

That will work out well for them I am sure.

[morningfog]

29. I hope the message is "fuck the system. With us

or against is."

I'm not there, though. And no one has asked me.

[tazkcmo]

49. I'm all for a total collapse of Walmart. n/t

[LanternWaste]

60. I imagine the dogmatic half-wit would indeed, allow for no other possibility.

"So the message from Ferguson is now fuck business we dont want you!"

I imagine the dogmatic half-wit would indeed, allow for no other possibility but one...

[KingCharlemagne]

14. Well, there's the little matter of the African American man who was

shot dead while wielding a toy gun at a WalMart when plenty of whites had wielded the same toy without being shot (John Crawford).

Then there's the tradition of 'no business as usual.'

[Egnever]

19. And walmart had what to do with that?

Did walmart call the cops and tell them to shoot him?

Misplaced anger and undercutting the legitimate issues IMHO.

[KingCharlemagne]

21. It happened at WalMart, dude. Deal with it. St. Louis can have its

racisma and white supremacy or it can have its capitalism. BUT IT CAN'T HAVE BOTH. That ship done sailed.

[Egnever]

25. LOL it happened at walmart.

So it is their fault. Do you realize how stupid that is?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

31. It's not about the goddamned Walmart! Pay a-fucking-tention! nt

[Egnever]

36. It is now.

and that's my point.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

38. JOHN CRAWFORD is the protesters point! Not fucking walmart! nt

[Egnever]

40. Then they are making their point poorly because walmart had fuck all to do with it.

[Live and Learn]

46. I think the majority of people understood the point perfectly well. nt

[Comrade Grumpy]

47. Is your last name Walton, or what?

[KingCharlemagne]

55. You know, that thought had crossed my mind. Like a major shareholder or maybe

an executive assigned to do social media for WM. So I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one to have that reaction.

[Supersedeas]

61. let's not forget that incident either -- it is time to rise up

[Live and Learn]

15. Here is a link at the latest WalMart

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1002&pid=5661223

They have done a great job today. Ignore the naysayers here. I can hardly believe this is DU.

[KingCharlemagne]

16. UPDATE: Protesters now at a third WalMart in Bridgeton. Apparently a heavy

police presence is on its way.

Livestream here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/anon-copwatch

[annm4peace]

37. so many black young people killed in a year by cops

and people are worried about WALMART PALLLEEASE.


I'm saying a pray for the activists and citizen journalists who are tweeting and live streaming what is happening.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

42. I'm watching one of the feeds. Cops protecting their corporate masters! Fuck them! nt

[Calista241]

48. So what should the cops be doing?

Everyone is caught up with it being a WalMart. If it was a Costco or a Home Depot, would anything be different? What's wrong with law enforcement protecting a local business from being vandalized and looted? If there are employees there, they're at risk also.

Have the cops beaten down anyone standing outside the WalMart? That QuikTrip that was burned down a month ago probably had to lay off a bunch of people. QuikTrip pays it's people well also, way above minimum wage (nearly $15 / hour here in Atlanta).

[ChisolmTrailDem]

50. Oh, I get it...because protesters are vandals and looters? Nice. nt

[Calista241]

59. Well, given their recent history in this same town, I can't blame them. N/t

[Lefta Dissenter]

43. I wish them courage, calm, strength and safety. (n/t)

[annm4peace]

45. love that

hard to go to bed knowing what they are up against.

thank god we have live streaming so we know what is really happening.

[Supersedeas]

62. +1

[scarystuffyo]

51. They should protest and surround the police dept every night

Going after a local business accomplishes nothing unless it was directly involved


Their noble efforts are misdirected

[Live and Learn]

52. Wrong. It was a brilliant strategy.

Sorry you don't get it.

[scarystuffyo]

53. The execution was but what did it accomplish?

[scarystuffyo]

54. What they do should be something that garners support

nation wide when reported on.

The protesters during the day , the little children , the mothers all holding signs
resonates to the rest of the country when those images are shown.

The media puts a video on the news of a flash mob trying to disrupt a business
late at night accomplishes nothing for this cause.

[KingCharlemagne]

57. I get your point, I really do. But here's the deal. If WM can't operate its

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stores b/c local protests shut them down, that puts a dent in WM's sales figures and directly affects WM's bottom line. (Sure, Ferguson and St. Louis are small potatoes, but they might be just the beginning.) So if WM's shareholders start taking a hit to their bottom line, you don't think there will be some suggestions made on the golf courses and in the board rooms to make this 'go away' ASAP by having that putz McCulloch recuse himself and Wilson arrested?

If not, then you and I have a fundamentally irreconcilable vision of how power works in this country.

[scarystuffyo]

58. I understand what you're saying

The images we were clicking on at work of all the little children holding the signs , Am I next

Holy cow, it brought some people to tears see those , they tried to hide it but I could see it.

Those images are powerful and I hope they keep continuing do that during the day time protests .