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Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:03 PM

"Ebola Vaccine Would Likely Have Been Found By Now If Not For Budget Cuts: NIH Director"

Ebola Vaccine Would Likely Have Been Found By Now If Not For Budget Cuts: NIH Director

by Sam Stein at the Huffington Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/12/ebola-vaccine_n_5974148.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

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BETHESDA, Md. -- As the federal government frantically works to combat the Ebola outbreak in West Africa, and as it responds to a second diagnosis of the disease at home, one of the country's top health officials says a vaccine likely would have already been discovered were it not for budget cuts.

Dr. Francis Collins, the head of the National Institutes of Health, said that a decade of stagnant spending has "slowed down" research on all items, including vaccinations for infectious diseases. As a result, he said, the international community has been left playing catch-up on a potentially avoidable humanitarian catastrophe.

"NIH has been working on Ebola vaccines since 2001. It's not like we suddenly woke up and thought, 'Oh my gosh, we should have something ready here,'" Collins told The Huffington Post on Friday. "Frankly, if we had not gone through our 10-year slide in research support, we probably would have had a vaccine in time for this that would've gone through clinical trials and would have been ready."

It's not just the production of a vaccine that has been hampered by money shortfalls. Collins also said that some therapeutics to fight Ebola "were on a slower track than would've been ideal, or that would have happened if we had been on a stable research support trajectory."





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Reply "Ebola Vaccine Would Likely Have Been Found By Now If Not For Budget Cuts: NIH Director" (Original post)
applegrove Oct 2014 OP
Historic NY Oct 2014 #1
applegrove Oct 2014 #2
WhiteAndNerdy Oct 2014 #7
global1 Oct 2014 #16
Tommymac Oct 2014 #23
ann--- Oct 2014 #27
global1 Oct 2014 #30
ann--- Oct 2014 #40
dflprincess Oct 2014 #49
ann--- Oct 2014 #53
dflprincess Oct 2014 #54
YOHABLO Oct 2014 #55
delete_bush Oct 2014 #31
Cha Oct 2014 #3
burrowowl Oct 2014 #4
adirondacker Oct 2014 #6
RockaFowler Oct 2014 #41
redruddyred Oct 2014 #60
davidn3600 Oct 2014 #5
mazzarro Oct 2014 #17
dbackjon Oct 2014 #28
JI7 Oct 2014 #46
redruddyred Oct 2014 #59
Iliyah Oct 2014 #8
Kablooie Oct 2014 #9
kairos12 Oct 2014 #12
ann--- Oct 2014 #29
DrBulldog Oct 2014 #10
kairos12 Oct 2014 #11
dflprincess Oct 2014 #50
young_at_heart Oct 2014 #13
kairos12 Oct 2014 #56
ReRe Oct 2014 #14
Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #15
Hugin Oct 2014 #22
johnnyreb Oct 2014 #18
Turbineguy Oct 2014 #19
goldent Oct 2014 #20
WillyT Oct 2014 #21
Avalux Oct 2014 #24
redruddyred Oct 2014 #58
heaven05 Oct 2014 #25
HockeyMom Oct 2014 #37
heaven05 Oct 2014 #39
applegrove Oct 2014 #38
TomCADem Oct 2014 #26
randome Oct 2014 #32
blackspade Oct 2014 #33
joeglow3 Oct 2014 #34
valerief Oct 2014 #36
valerief Oct 2014 #35
B2G Oct 2014 #42
blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #43
Kingofalldems Oct 2014 #44
HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #45
grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #47
DrBulldog Oct 2014 #48
AllyCat Oct 2014 #51
BeyondGeography Oct 2014 #52
Hekate Oct 2014 #57
kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #61
applegrove Oct 2014 #62
ctaylors6 Oct 2014 #63
Raine Oct 2014 #64

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:28 PM

1. Thanks GOP,

ps who is our surgeon General Mr. Bohner?

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:35 PM

2. Yup. McCain just called for an ebola czar.... shouldn't that be the surgeon general?

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Response to applegrove (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 11:02 PM

7. Good point. nt

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Response to applegrove (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 12:07 AM

16. With The Nov Election Just Weeks Away - The Dems Should Make An Issue Of Not Getting The President's

pick for Surgeon General approved. It is the Repubs that are blocking that. Why aren't the Dems shouting that out on all the MSM news programs.

What are we waiting for - the Repubs to make an issue that because of Obamacare hospitals have cut back on infection prevention spending and cut back on staff to remain profitable. Are we waiting for them to go on the offensive.

If McCain called for an 'ebola czar' - turn it around on him and say - hey approve the President's Surgeon General.

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Response to global1 (Reply #16)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 09:25 AM

23. Because neoliberals don't really want to let progressive populists take control of the party?

Welcome to the kabuki.

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Response to ann--- (Reply #27)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:11 AM

30. Right - It's The President's Fault We Don't Have A Surgeon General Because....

he's picked someone that the Repubs don't like. Or is is because maybe anyone he picks won't be acceptable to them - because they are obstructing everything he does.

So let's just get the President to pick someone else - right. That will solve things. Do you detect the sarcasm in my response?

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Response to ann--- (Reply #40)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:28 PM

49. Do you really think they'd confirm anyone Obama nominated now?

And they'd turn it all around (with the help of MSM) and make it look like it was his fault there wasn't a SG in place already.

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Response to ann--- (Reply #53)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:59 PM

54. I agree

but there's no way they're going to approve one - no matter who Obama nominates and they'd just use a new nominee against him.

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Response to global1 (Reply #30)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:59 PM

55. It particularly was opposed by the NRA and Libertarian Rand Paul. Guns Guns Guns

 

They're going to take away our GUNS!!

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Response to ann--- (Reply #27)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:40 AM

31. Doing so would probably be a good way out of a

bad situation (i.e., the R's holding up the nomination).

My limited understanding of this is that there are also 10 D's who are not backing him. He's 36 years old and completed his residency a mere 8 years ago. It looks like he's done a lot of worthwhile things since then, but he's also been very politically active for Obama.

Obama could address the nation on Ebola, explain how the R's are holding up this critical position, and nominate someone else. We get a SG, the R's are embarrassed (if that's possible), and Mr. Murthy still has many productive years ahead of him.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:36 PM

3. Thank you, applegrove.. I just saw this on another site and was looking to see if it were here.

It's not just the production of a vaccine that has been hampered by money shortfalls. Collins also said that some therapeutics to fight Ebola "were on a slower track than would've been ideal, or that would have happened if we had been on a stable research support trajectory."

"We would have been a year or two ahead of where we are, which would have made all the difference," he said.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:45 PM

4. That's for Damn Sure!

Damn the Drug Companies and their profiteering from NIH and the Repukes cutting funding and, and .....

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Response to burrowowl (Reply #4)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:53 PM

6. I heard a remark on NPR stating that if it was profitable, Big Pharma would have had the cure years

ago.

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Response to adirondacker (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 02:56 PM

41. The same for Cancer

Sickness is a big business

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Response to adirondacker (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 15, 2014, 07:30 PM

60. that should not surprise any fans of DU.

 

the profit margins on these drugs are obscene.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:50 PM

5. No guarantees. They haven't found a HIV vaccine either despite all the money and research

 

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 12:07 AM

17. That is assuming that HIV research has been fully funded all along - which I doubt. -- n/t

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:36 AM

28. But they do have a very effective therapies

 

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 04:31 PM

46. not a cure, but they have been able to make it manageable

and people are able to live a very good life as long as they get the care .

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Response to JI7 (Reply #46)

Wed Oct 15, 2014, 07:28 PM

59. HIV is no longer a death sentence

 

not too bad considering the severity of the illness and the challenges of retroviral therapy.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 11:23 PM

8. K & R

GOPers are to busy doing the bidding of their masters while the true Americans get less while "we" are paying the most in taxes. AIDs outbreak should have never went as far as it did. The negligent of higher ups ignored the potential devastation because in their eyes it dealt with "dark people" and "homosexuals". The monies still provides for research in AIDs which is important even to this date, same with Cancer.

The GOP house cut what Pres O requested monetary wise for Ebola, if the Senate Dems tried to request more, Senate GOPers would have blocked it and therefore the monies would have remained in limbo, because GOPers only care about self (1-2%ers) and no matter what, they have enough potential vaccines to save self and eff anyone else.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 11:26 PM

9. Don't worry. The private sector will take up the slack.

What do you mean they didn't do it?

...

Well, of course they didn't because Benghazi!
It's obvious.
All you have to do is apply a little cigol.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #9)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 11:40 PM

12. Bush's Thousand Points of Blights.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 11:32 PM

10. Some day in the future the historians will tally up all the lives ruined and destroyed ...

 

... - and all the myriad ways it was done - by the Republican Party of the United States, 1981-2017.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 11:38 PM

11. Austerity Land is where we reside courtesy of Republi-cons.

They will wake up only when they realize ebola doesn't respect gated communities and private security.

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Response to kairos12 (Reply #11)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:30 PM

50. They'll find out that being the ruling class in a third world country - which is where they've been

trying to take us - isn't all they thought it would be.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 11:46 PM

13. If you have a heart and a conscience you won't vote for any Republican

They simply don't care about anything other than their own interests!

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Response to young_at_heart (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 09:07 PM

56. Agree 1000 percent.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 11:49 PM

14. But, but, but....

.... GWB's wars. Wars are more important than research for antibiotics and serums to treat such things as the super bug and mere ebola. USA! USA! USA!

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 12:03 AM

15. Everyone forgets the sequester.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #15)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:04 AM

22. Which is still in full effect... BTW.

Yep, the shutdown smokescreen worked perfectly.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 12:16 AM

18. Why should I pay fer mah neighbor's contagion!

(chaw, spit, twang!)

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 12:36 AM

19. Diseases and Terrorists

the republican's best friends.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 12:43 AM

20. I think he was wrong to say that.

Medical research has a spotty record at producing results.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:02 AM

21. K & R !!!

 


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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 09:37 AM

24. I hate that they have to use Ebola as an example - been a problem for a long time.

Infectious Diseases research in general has been grossly underfunded....depending on for profit big pharma to develop anti-infectives only leaves us at risk for falling behind to where we are unable to stop the tiny little organisms that invade and consume human bodies. However that's what's happened, and as a result we are way behind the curve.

It's been decades and decades since penicillin and vaccination discoveries....we should be better prepared. Ebola is the canary in the coal mine and we need to take heed.

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Response to Avalux (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 15, 2014, 07:27 PM

58. that's because SCOTUS thinks microbes are intellectual property

 

actually it's a trend which started in the 80s but we are seeing the effects of it now in epidemics such as lyme, ebola, drug-resistant tb.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 09:52 AM

25. huh???

 

Last edited Mon Oct 13, 2014, 12:56 PM - Edit history (1)

what about the people that got infected(volunteers) and were flown back to america and were cured by some 'experimental' vaccine? I'm sure I read about that somewhere. Can't find it though. Been removed from search engines.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #25)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 12:32 PM

37. Yes, they do with something they don't want you to see

 

Internet isn't controlled? Seen that happen. I bookmarked an old typewriter typed report (photocopy) from a 60s study of mutated strain of measles. Went back to get it several times but got 404 Error Message.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #37)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 12:59 PM

39. Yeah, well I remember all the CT's

 

about HIV and I always knew that if you smell smoke, there is a fire somewhere. No matter how well hidden.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #25)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 12:40 PM

38. They only had limited amounts of that treatment.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:21 AM

26. Extreme Right Had Been Claiming Ebola Is A False Flag Operation...

...from several months ago, so that is their ready answer.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:44 AM

32. Keep hammering home the Sequester and the government shutdown. It's all on the GOP's hands.

 

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:52 AM

33. Thanks Rethuglicants!

Each American Ebola death is on you (as well as Africans who would have had access to the vaccine as well)!

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:52 AM

34. Sorry, but I am skeptical

 

You know what they say: "Never let a good tragedy go to waste."

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Response to joeglow3 (Reply #34)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 12:13 PM

36. You stole that from "The Disruptors Handbook," didn't you? nt

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 12:06 PM

35. "Yeah, but our guys let us have our guns!!!! Wahoo!!!!

"Ain't nothin' more important than having guns!!!!"

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 03:16 PM

42. Let's pretend they had double the budget

 

Ebola had only killed 1582 people in total until now...since 1976.

I have no reason to believe it would have been a priority for them. In fact it strains the imagination to believe it would have been.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 04:06 PM

43. Lay it right at the GOP's door. Right where it belongs.

 

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 04:27 PM

44. Kick this for the GOP crew.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 04:30 PM

45. So it's grist for the political mill...meh!

AMONG AMERICANS with nothing to gain by politicizing but wanting control over a very frightening virus, who the fuck cares?


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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #45)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 07:56 PM

47. Disagree. This is exactly why we need to raise taxes on the wealthy to pay for programs that protect

 

us all.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:18 PM

48. Now it has turned out to be a race between the spreading of ebola and ...

 

... the widespread incompetence of the Texas hospital system.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:37 PM

51. F$ckin' Republicans

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:39 PM

52. Republicans are such miserable fucks at heart

eom

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:12 PM

57. About damn time someone said this.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Oct 15, 2014, 07:39 PM

61. I call a little BS on this too.

 

You have to look at where NIH and Pharmaceutical companies put their priorities. NIH has plenty of money but politics enters into the equation there also. The high visibility diseases...cancer, heart, get the bulk of the funding because that's what congress wants and pharmaceutical companies, ever mindful of their profit motive, cater their drug research to where they will get the most consumers. They have funds to perform the research for vaccines for Ebola...they just don't think enough people suffer from the disease to make a huge profit. And big Pharma wants the NIH to fund and fund the basic research and then they will step in, license the drugs, and charge the consumers an arm and a leg for something that essentially was mostly funded by taxpayer money in the first place. AND you better believe that many NIH officials and researchers have stocks in all those big Pharma companies. The system stinks from the top to the bottom...the bottom being your medical specialist who also has stock in the companies whose pills they push.

It's really complicated they way it works. But the way it SHOULD work is simple.

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #61)

Wed Oct 15, 2014, 07:44 PM

62. Canada found a researcher in Europe who wanted to do great

work on ebola. They hired him. He moved to Winnipeg and ran the research at a government lab. They are now testing that vaccine on Americans.....no chance of getting ebola while you're on it. But that is how public health works. The market would never have tried for a vaccine for a virus that up to then had only affected a few thousand people in poor rural areas in Africa. It needed nonmarket thinking to come to pass.

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #61)

Thu Oct 16, 2014, 06:12 PM

64. Agree. nt

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