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Sat Oct 11, 2014, 06:29 PM

Greg Abbott: Texas gay marriage ban reduces out-of-wedlock births

AUSTIN – Attorney General Greg Abbott says Texas’ same-sex marriage ban should remain in place because legalizing it would do little or nothing to encourage heterosexual couples to get married and have children.

Writing in a brief filed to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday, Abbott said the state was not obligated to prove why gay marriage might be detrimental to the economic or social well-being of Texans. It was only required to show how opposite-sex marriage would be more beneficial for its citizens.

“The State is not required to show that recognizing same-sex marriage will undermine heterosexual marriage,” the brief read. “It is enough if one could rationally speculate that opposite-sex marriages will advance some state interest to a greater extent than same-sex marriages will.”

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He added, “Second, Texas’s marriage laws are rationally related to the State’s interest in reducing unplanned out-of-wedlock births. By channeling procreative heterosexual intercourse into marriage, Texas’s marriage laws reduce unplanned out-of-wedlock births and the costs that those births impose on society. Recognizing same-sex marriage does not advance this interest because same-sex unions do not result in pregnancy.”

In the brief, Abbott concedes that same-sex marriage might have some positive effects for society, like increasing household wealth and adoptions or providing a more stable environment for children raised by gay couples. While there might be benefits, however, he said it’s for the Legislature, not the courts, to decide whether to expand the right to marry.
http://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/2014/10/abbott-texas-gay-marriage-ban-reduces-out-of-wedlock-births/


I am floored by the level of ignorance and misogyny in this statement. If out of wedlock births are so feared by the Texas AG they they need to address poverty in their state which is a cause, or maybe try providing access to birthcontrol for the impoverish in the state, not limiting it even further. Medicaid expansion in the state would have a direct effect on decreasing the number of unwed couples making babies down there, but gay marriage is what they want to blame the problem on?

On a brighter note, If you're a gay person in Texas wanting to get married in the near future, I don't see how even the conservative stuffed fifth circuit court is going to be able to rule in favor of this lame argument.

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herding cats Oct 2014 OP
hobbit709 Oct 2014 #1
mythology Oct 2014 #13
Kalidurga Oct 2014 #2
herding cats Oct 2014 #4
Kalidurga Oct 2014 #16
Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #3
niyad Oct 2014 #5
nomorenomore08 Oct 2014 #12
hollysmom Oct 2014 #6
QED Oct 2014 #7
roamer65 Oct 2014 #8
muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #9
uppityperson Oct 2014 #10
RKP5637 Oct 2014 #11
Gothmog Oct 2014 #14
JI7 Oct 2014 #15
Rex Oct 2014 #17
Takket Oct 2014 #18
davidpdx Oct 2014 #19

Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 06:31 PM

1. Stupidity really should be excruciatingly painful to the stupid on saying it.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 08:16 PM

13. Sadly it's only on painful for those around them

 

You would think that a state that had Ann Richards as governor would maybe want to again have a governor who isn't a complete and utter idiot. But between Bush the younger, Perry and soon to be Abbott, I'm not sure the combined IQ would reach triple digits.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 06:33 PM

2. Translation?

Sorry, I am not getting the argument. All I could hear is "gays, I don't like 'em".

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 06:38 PM

4. That is the argument. He doesn't like gays.

Beyond that he's got nothing.

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Response to herding cats (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 11:23 PM

16. Oh for a second I thought he was trying to make a reasoned arguement

*snort* I can't believe I typed that with a straight face.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 06:33 PM

3. Greg Abbott is two tacos short of a combination plate. The fact that he's ahead of Wendy Davis in

the polls says something unflattering about te voters of Texas.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 07:04 PM

5. how much alcohol would I have to consume before that statement makes any sense?

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Response to niyad (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 07:57 PM

12. I might give it a try, but I fear I'd wind up needing my stomach pumped...

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 07:09 PM

6. isn't he worried about all the out of wedlock and unplanned pregnancies of same sex couples?

I think that should be brought up to him to give him something else stupid to think about. I have friends in Texas and I have friends in Florida, but I think their state legislatures might be fighting out the stupidest state title. It has nothing to do with them, that they are saddled with people who don't bring their brains to the voting booth.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 07:10 PM

7. I don't understand

Is this supposed to make sense? I can't follow the logic, if there is any logic here.


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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 07:16 PM

8. It's just amazing how they try to avoid saying "I hate gays"...

...without actually saying it. The Rethuglican mindset should be listed as a mental illness.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 07:22 PM

9. Next argument: regulating fertiliser plants would do little or nothing to encourage heterosexual ...

...couples to get married and have children, so they shouldn't do it.

"It is enough if one could rationally speculate that opposite-sex marriages will advance some state interest to a greater extent than same-sex marriages will." He really thinks that the more same-sex marriages there are, the less opposite-sex ones there'll be? The man's a grade A moron.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 07:33 PM

10. People older than 50 should not be allowed to marry either.

Recognizing elder marriage does not advance this interest because elder unions do not result in pregnancy.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 07:35 PM

11. What a blithering idiot. Does he have any credentials. Is he a liberty U graduate? n/t

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 09:31 PM

14. Greg is a bad attorney

This is a really dumb arguement

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 09:33 PM

15. that there are people who would agree with and vote for this type of stupid

and not a small number or even a small but significant number, but close to majority

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 11:24 PM

17. When Bush came along, I though nobody could be dumber

 

then Rick Perry showed up and I thought the same thing...then Abbott showed up. They just keep getting dumber and dumber.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sat Oct 11, 2014, 11:37 PM

18. He wants to regulate marriages based on "state interests"?

That may be the most inane unamerican thing I've ever heard. Regulating relationships between consensual adults to what the stare thinks is best for them??? And these people call themselves the party of freedom????

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Sun Oct 12, 2014, 12:24 AM

19. The obvious solution at this point

would be to put all these people on an island without clothing, a limited amount of food, and lots of cameras. We could name it Hetrosexual Island. Then they would see just how unhappy they could be when someone interferes with their life.

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