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ashling

(25,771 posts)
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:11 PM Oct 2014

Right-Wing Militia Leader Creates Facebook Page Offering Cash Reward To Anyone Who Removes President

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/10/02/right-wing-militia-leader-creates-facebook-page-offering-cash-reward-to-anyone-who-removes-president-obama-from-office-image/







Wilhelmsen reported in his post that his group has raised $116,872.00 thus far to pay as a reward to anyone to completes the task of capturing and permanently removing President Obama from office. Of course, we can assume that by “permanently” he means kill him. The reward is to aid the perpetrator of the crime. Wilhelmsen removed the report of the amount of money raised from the post yesterday evening.
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Right-Wing Militia Leader Creates Facebook Page Offering Cash Reward To Anyone Who Removes President (Original Post) ashling Oct 2014 OP
Such good Christians...That page better come down quick. louis-t Oct 2014 #1
Wilhelmsen’s vile diatribe was removed, ashling Oct 2014 #6
Hello, FBI? shenmue Oct 2014 #2
And Secret Services. jwirr Oct 2014 #21
gotta wait for hangovers to subside waddirum Oct 2014 #53
LOL jwirr Oct 2014 #59
This is the Onion, right? superpatriotman Oct 2014 #3
Is this old? OldHippieChick Oct 2014 #4
I think FB posts will show the orig date of the post... Cooley Hurd Oct 2014 #8
I think that was from 2013. That moron's current page doesn't have MineralMan Oct 2014 #13
If you read the article ashling Oct 2014 #61
"Don't worry. We got this. No need to worry." valerief Oct 2014 #5
What a dumb ass. nt ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #7
That teabagger moron is well-known to the Secret Service. MineralMan Oct 2014 #9
visits? mopinko Oct 2014 #10
Since I know no more than you do about what the Secret MineralMan Oct 2014 #12
and my opinion is a little more likely the truth mopinko Oct 2014 #14
Perhaps. I don't know, really. MineralMan Oct 2014 #15
well, then, you should stop saying that. mopinko Oct 2014 #19
I should? I should stop stating my opinion? MineralMan Oct 2014 #27
You heard mopinko. They're right and you're wrong. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #29
I did. However, I disagree with the idea that MineralMan Oct 2014 #32
psst - I'm on your team, dude. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #33
I know you are. I wasn't arguing with you, MineralMan Oct 2014 #35
well, try not stating your opinion mopinko Oct 2014 #54
Look at my signature line. MineralMan Oct 2014 #55
Hope you're righg MM. nc4bo Oct 2014 #22
I don't know if that's the case, but I do know that MineralMan Oct 2014 #24
It is free speech, hate speech by definition, but protected by the Constitution.......right? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #11
exactly. If Obama was a dictator, this psycho would be in a torture chamber Doctor_J Oct 2014 #16
I started this Friday, you saved me from having to make a post....example pics inside. nc4bo Oct 2014 #17
WOW! Thanks for posting... Duppers Oct 2014 #20
Sickening isn't it. nc4bo Oct 2014 #26
Threats of, or inciting, or soliciting violence ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #25
This needs to be reported to the authorities tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #36
That's INSANE! LiberalLovinLug Oct 2014 #49
Funny, I rarely paid attention to FB ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #18
why is this sick fuck not in prison? nt Duppers Oct 2014 #23
If he were a Liberal or Progressive, he would be. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #39
Mental Defectives Who Should Be Rotting In Prison colsohlibgal Oct 2014 #28
Those who are inciting them should also be in jail if anything happens. Frustratedlady Oct 2014 #48
The FBI would like a word with you, Wilhelmsen. DinahMoeHum Oct 2014 #30
Someone knowlegeable who is not foaming at the mouth and can actually think: is this illegal? Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #31
He probably can't be charged with a crime. MineralMan Oct 2014 #34
At a min I hope his life is made miserable. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #37
I think you probably have a good handle on what MineralMan Oct 2014 #38
Probably another turd who thinks he shouldn't pay taxes if a black man is POTUS. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #40
That description matches a helluva lot of people, I imagine. MineralMan Oct 2014 #41
Most grumble; very few issue indirect threats. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #42
Yup. And the indirect threats don't actually violate MineralMan Oct 2014 #43
Point of order: is it the FBI, or the SS? Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #44
You can contact either to report threats. MineralMan Oct 2014 #46
if there is a God, he/she would have NOTHING to do with this complete asshole spanone Oct 2014 #45
I bet if you asked this fool for ONE EXAMPLE he would clam up like the dumb-ass he is. arcane1 Oct 2014 #47
Christian American Patriots Militia lobodons Oct 2014 #50
That's one guy who probably wouldn't support their stated goal DFW Oct 2014 #56
So, what happens to the reward money if they don't have any takers? Frustratedlady Oct 2014 #51
Too bad the Secret Service is incompetent or he'd be in jail. nt TeamPooka Oct 2014 #52
will they use Reagan's defense (when he said the CIA manual's "neutralize" merely meant MisterP Oct 2014 #57
jeeeezus h. christ BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2014 #58
the guy thinks dinosaurs still exist. iamthebandfanman Oct 2014 #60
No visit or arrest will happen: freshwest Oct 2014 #62
How is this not treason? Initech Oct 2014 #63

ashling

(25,771 posts)
6. Wilhelmsen’s vile diatribe was removed,
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:19 PM
Oct 2014

Wilhelmsen’s vile diatribe was removed, either by Facebook or himself, but now he is back with a different strategy to oust the black president he despises.



On a new Facebook page called “Reward For Capture Of Obama,” Wilhelmsen is literally offering a significant bounty to anyone who can kidnap President Obama and permanently remove him from the presidency. The page banner features an image of President Obama with the words, “He’s not my president, nor is he yours.”



OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
4. Is this old?
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:18 PM
Oct 2014

I note the date "today" November 19??? Needless to say, if this has not been reported to the authorities, it should be. But I still wonder if this is current or someone reposting something from last year?

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
13. I think that was from 2013. That moron's current page doesn't have
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:34 PM
Oct 2014

that post. He does have a closed group, which I will not join. I don't know what's posted on it.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
61. If you read the article
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 07:54 PM
Oct 2014

it says that the post has been removed ... replaced with other disgusting shit

The article I linked to in the OP was dated Oct 2, 2014

valerief

(53,235 posts)
5. "Don't worry. We got this. No need to worry."
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:18 PM
Oct 2014

Homeland Security has now merged with the Dallas ebola handling.

Panic!

mopinko

(70,070 posts)
10. visits?
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:30 PM
Oct 2014

prolly like tea and cookies and a couple good laughs, when the guy should be charged with threatening the life of the president and incitement to violence.

visits? that counts as a good job to you?

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
12. Since I know no more than you do about what the Secret
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:33 PM
Oct 2014

Service did or is doing about this idiot, whatever I say is my opinion only.

For all I know, that Facebook page is flypaper, designed to attract and locate other wackos. I have no idea. The Secret Service doesn't really publicize its activities.

mopinko

(70,070 posts)
14. and my opinion is a little more likely the truth
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:00 PM
Oct 2014

it fits a little more neatly into the story that is emerging here.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
27. I should? I should stop stating my opinion?
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:23 PM
Oct 2014

I think I'll ignore your advice and keep posting as I choose, thanks.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
32. I did. However, I disagree with the idea that
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:57 PM
Oct 2014

they're right and I am wrong, so I'll just have to continue to post my opinion, I guess. Thank goodness for DU.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
35. I know you are. I wasn't arguing with you,
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:03 PM
Oct 2014

just making my point again. Thanks!

Oddly enough, though, I don't really feel bullied by anyone.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
55. Look at my signature line.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 03:00 PM
Oct 2014

It's on every post, and makes it clear that anything I write on DU is my opinion. That's pretty much the same of everyone on DU, unless it's just a post from a link somewhere. I assume that everything you write is your opinion. You should assume that of my posts as well. That's why I added the disclaimer to my signature line.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
22. Hope you're righg MM.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:16 PM
Oct 2014

If true, there are some seriously stupid people landing on it and hopefully getting monitored and perhaps a few nonsocial visits from some folks dressed in suits.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
24. I don't know if that's the case, but I do know that
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:20 PM
Oct 2014

every time I've reported some website or Facebook page to the Secret Service, I've gotten an email saying they were already aware of it. I do send such reports when I encounter something that looks like a threat. So far, I've never been the first to do so. I'll keep trying, though.

We really only see the public face of the Secret Service's Presidential Protection Unit. We see the agents with the President wherever he goes. What is going on in the background isn't really public information, though. It's a Secret. There's a reason for that.

I do know that the Secret Service evaluates many, many threats. How they do that isn't something I know.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
11. It is free speech, hate speech by definition, but protected by the Constitution.......right?
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:33 PM
Oct 2014

So how about that thing with America being the only Western nation not having hate speech criminal laws?
How is that working out for you folks?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
16. exactly. If Obama was a dictator, this psycho would be in a torture chamber
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:03 PM
Oct 2014

somewhere with no access to Facebook. Morons and psychopaths - the only two kinds of republicans.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
17. I started this Friday, you saved me from having to make a post....example pics inside.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:03 PM
Oct 2014

FB - RFCOO (reward for capture of obama)


FB response:


FB - CAPM (christian americans patriot milia)


FB response:


Examples on both pages and website:

rfcoc








From RFCOC Webpage:


++++++++

Like I said, I started going through these pages yesterday but did not have the time to edit photos, upload and then organize and post to DU. When I saw this post I got busy.

This is some seriously fucked up shit and I don't give a shit about Free Speech when it comes to threats of violence. These pieces of shit seem to have multiple orgasms everytime violence is mentioned.

I hate them.

"WE" (as in Democrats) don't do this.






nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
26. Sickening isn't it.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:23 PM
Oct 2014

Just realized I started this Thursday not Friday, just been super busy and the days are all blending together.

tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
36. This needs to be reported to the authorities
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:04 PM
Oct 2014

In addition to being removed from FB.

From the SS website
How can I report a threat towards a protectee?

Contact your nearest U.S. Secret Service field office which is listed in the "Emergency Numbers" section in the front of most phone books.

The Secret Service is interested in legitimate information relating to threats, plans or attempts by individuals, groups or organizations to harm Secret Service protectees. However, the agency does not desire or solicit information pertaining to individuals or groups expressing legitimate criticism of, or political opposition to, the policies and decisions of the government or government officials.


LiberalLovinLug

(14,168 posts)
49. That's INSANE!
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:27 PM
Oct 2014

Not only that FB left them alone, but their screeching creed that never once details just HOW President Obama is destroying the Constitution (for example). Its astounding how hollow and baseless charges with no actual factual examples of behaviour to back them up are shared by so many. One line on there is that America is a nation of laws...so what actual law did Obama break? And one apparently that deserves "permanent removal"?

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
28. Mental Defectives Who Should Be Rotting In Prison
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:51 PM
Oct 2014

If they aren't in jail now I wonder why. It mostly comes down to the fact Obama is black. pure and simple. They can't stand it.

This is after we had 8 years of an installed president who could not have been elected dog catcher if his last name was Smith rather than Bush - and I saw nothing like this during his two illicit terms.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
48. Those who are inciting them should also be in jail if anything happens.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:23 PM
Oct 2014

I think we see their names in the news quite often and they seem to be collecting salaries from the taxpayers, to boot. We know it doesn't take much to get the loonies excited and eager to get their 15 minutes of fame. Imagine how many are inciting from the shadows.

This makes me ill. I worry for the entire family...such lovely people.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
31. Someone knowlegeable who is not foaming at the mouth and can actually think: is this illegal?
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:55 PM
Oct 2014

I'm asking an actual question, which has an actual answer.

My gut says this is absolutely grounds for being charged with something, but I tend to live in the actual
world, not the butthurt one. Can this guy be charged with a crime?

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
34. He probably can't be charged with a crime.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:02 PM
Oct 2014

He avoids making direct threats against the President that he has any capability of carrying out. It takes a direct threat to violate the laws against threatening the President. Some people have been arrested and charged with that, but I haven't followed the disposition of their cases, so I can't say if they're in prison.

Idiots like this moron, though, do go on the Secret Service's list and are evaluated for the level their nonsense actually poses any real risk to the President. If the threat isn't credible and direct, it doesn't seem like arrests and prosecutions take place. That's just my opinion, though, based on what I've observed. Every President gets threats and incitements to threaten. I suppose that's always been true. Most of the Secret Service is involved in evaluating such possibilities. We only see the public face, in the special agents who are visible around the President. Lots more is going on, though.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
37. At a min I hope his life is made miserable.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:04 PM
Oct 2014

I'm the one who doesn't think much of the WH intruder, but on the other hand THIS is some serious shit.

I am sure the FBI has eyeballs on this turd with a green light to "act" if he gives the slightest provocation.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
38. I think you probably have a good handle on what
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:09 PM
Oct 2014

the Secret Service is doing about this person. Along with some of those who have posted on his Facebook page and elsewhere. They do keep lists of these morons.

My guess is that this Wilhelmsen guy is some sour, bitter, sorry old fart, holed up in his house in front of his computer. He vents his hatred and spleen on the Internet, but is likely afraid to even go outside of his house. That's my guess. He's no doubt been closely interviewed by the Secret Service on at least one occasion and has received some pointed advice about the limits of the Secret Service's patience with him. That's my opinion, as well.

The SS does arrest presidential threateners from time to time, when they are considered a credible risk.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
43. Yup. And the indirect threats don't actually violate
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:19 PM
Oct 2014

any laws. The ones who are stupid enough to make direct threats get close attention. If you see those, you should report them to the Secret Service. Odds are, you won't be the first to do so.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
46. You can contact either to report threats.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:22 PM
Oct 2014

They do talk to each other.

BTW, here's a website that has been watching this Wilhelmsen moron for a while:

http://aattp.org/tag/everest-wilhelmsen/

spanone

(135,812 posts)
45. if there is a God, he/she would have NOTHING to do with this complete asshole
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:21 PM
Oct 2014

i have pimples on my ass that are more christian than this traitor

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
47. I bet if you asked this fool for ONE EXAMPLE he would clam up like the dumb-ass he is.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:23 PM
Oct 2014

Impotent, aimless rage directed at the black man.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
56. That's one guy who probably wouldn't support their stated goal
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 03:02 PM
Oct 2014

Luntz is a mercenary, he works for the highest bidder. He has no morals or positions other than money. If he loses Obama, he loses his raison d'être. He makes his money by lying to ignorant Americans trying to get them to vote his way in elections. Assassination of his Bogey Man removes the main reason to hire him. No hire, no money. Luntz doesn't afford stay at the Waldorf Astoria by writing bumper stickers.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
51. So, what happens to the reward money if they don't have any takers?
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:47 PM
Oct 2014

It would make a nice little nest egg for those who got this crusade going. Sounds like another Christian scam to help a few make it through the winter. Kind of like Pat Robertson's take from the little old ladies to feather his bank account.

When will people learn what these clowns are up to?

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
57. will they use Reagan's defense (when he said the CIA manual's "neutralize" merely meant
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 03:08 PM
Oct 2014

"You just say to the fellow that is sitting there in the office, 'You're not in the office anymore.'"
http://www.nytimes.com/1984/11/04/world/reagan-now-says-manuel-was-mistranslated.html

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
60. the guy thinks dinosaurs still exist.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 04:35 PM
Oct 2014



Everest Wilhelmsen

September 5 at 12:37pm · Edited ·
.


I'm NOT joking and NOT lying: Our family saw this living T-rex 45 years ago in the jungle of southern Malaysia. We were driving south on the east coast of Malaysia through the jungle on this little road (wide enough for one car), returning form having seen the largest turtles in the world (leather backs) lay their eggs on the northern beaches of eastern Malaysia. There are dinosaurs in Malaysia -- they are not extinct !!! I can say that, because I saw a living one UP CLOSE !!!


In 2005 large footprints were found in the Jahor Bahru (Koto Tinggi) area. They must be the footprints of these dinosaurs. We were near the east coast and above the last fishing village when we saw it, possibly on the border of Jahor Bahru and its neighboring state. After seeing the T-rex we asked at that last fishing village about it. They did not know what we were talking about. They told us that they are fishermen and do not go in the jungle.

The head of the T-rex we saw was above the grass. A swath of jungle had been cut for this little road (probably a preliminary road and a larger road exists there today) and where the jungle had been cut the grass had grown very high. Some people in Malaysia say they have seen a very large (Bigfoot) monkey. My family, however, saw a green dinosaur !!! I have an excellent memory and have drawn the picture below. It looks exactly like this. http://www.cryptozoonews.com/true-giants-2014/

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
62. No visit or arrest will happen:
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 08:43 PM
Oct 2014

Patrick McKinnion · Top Commenter

The problem, from what I understand, is that Everest Wilhelmsen doesn't live in the United States, but currently lives in Germany. Which may be why the Secret Service hasn't paid him a visit.

Though living overseas trying to forment the overthrow of the US Government sounds a lot like sedition to me...



Reply · · 34 · October 2 at 2:54pm


Complaints could be sent to the government over in Germany, who will likely protect him like one of their own native sons...



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