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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSuicide is now the biggest killer of men in the UK under 50.
Exceeding accidents, coronary heart disease and cancer.
Of the 5,981 suicides in 2012, an astonishing 4,590 (76%) were men. And yet while Britain has high-profile campaigns on, say, testicular cancer or driving safely, the biggest killer of men under 50 is not getting the attention it deserves.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/15/suicide-silence-depressed-men
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)and in the comments someone mentions that a mental health medical record reduces job options.
I think of American men as being less able to express emotions than the British, guess I was not correct on that.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)More women TRY to kill themselves, doncha know.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I've never heard that....
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)betsuni
(25,457 posts)who goes around banging on doors demanding to be let in to tell men not to mention male suicide or she'll huff and she'll puff and she'll call him a misogynist, but the guys in straw houses are all like, no way I'm listening to you, Big Bad Misandrist, not by the hair of my chiny chin chin. And then there's a barbecue, if I remember correctly.
Yes. I remember your last thread on this subject. Your main antagonist during that particular discussion seems to have departed for greener pastures, at least...
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Why bomb ISIS? There's a bigger killer out there.
redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)sibelian
(7,804 posts)Looking at the stats, it's reasonable to assume that the rates of other causes of death have reduced.
From this page: http://www.mensmindsmatter.com/national-uk-male-suicide-data-1981---2011.html
...it seems that the absolute rate of suicide among males has remained roughly stable.
Female suicide rate UK, by region, 1981 - 2011
Male suicide rate UK by region, 1981 - 2011
Ratio of female to male suicide rate UK, by region, 1981 - 2011
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)Reasons within the reasons. Both cultural and biological. With 7+ billion people on this planet, some of them will just be naturally depressed. Culturally people are needed less than ever. You as an individual aren't really that important to the functioning of society. Biologically, again, people are needed less than ever. There are 7+ billion people. Europe, the US, some other places, birth rates are down. You don't need to make kids, so you have to find something to do, yet, again, you're not really needed by greater society to do a whole lot. So we end up making busy work, just to keep people occupied. Not much of a purpose there.
Then there's always the childhood trauma stuff that stays with you. Be it abuse in some form from family. Abuse in some form from other kids. The you have the illnesses, and other things that just happen in life that are hard to take.
We don't really have an answer to any of those questions, but we have medication. No answers, but you're kept alive. Even when you're not needed.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)is the intersection of undeconstructed male templates enabling self-destructive thought patterns. There's this perception that men "don't ask for help", it's my suspicion that one of the main reasons they don't is because they don't expect to be taken seriously. The comments on the article seem to confirm this. If the society that's supposed to actually give the help doesn't know how to do it, why ask for help? A self-fulfilling prophecy, I'd suggest, but one that requires some kind of response. If we can reduce traffic accidents and drug overdoses below the level of the suicide rate then why isn't more being done to address the no. 1 killer?