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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJessa Duggar compares Holocaust genocide of 11 million people to abortion.
Behind that sweet smile is a highly judgmental attitude toward those who face what are often life and death decisions to abort...a decision that is between a patient, her family, her physician. It is not nor should it be a religious decision.
Jessa Duggar Compares Abortion to the Holocaust Because This Is the World We Live In
The 19 Kids and Counting star recently visited Washington, D.C.'s Holocaust Museum and rather than absorbing the atrocity of one of the greatest horrors in recent history, she decided to leverage the genocide of 11 million people to support her view on abortion.
"I walked through the Holocaust Museum again today... very sobering. Millions of innocents denied the most basic and fundamental of all rights their right to life," Duggar wrote on Instagram with a photo of a concentration camp. "One human destroying the life of another deemed 'less than human.' Racism, stemming from the evolutionary idea that man came from something less than human; that some people groups are 'more evolved' and others 'less evolved.' A denying that our Creator GOD made us human from the beginning, all of ONE BLOOD and ONE RACE, descendants of Adam. The belief that some human beings are 'not fit to live.' So they're murdered. Slaughtered. Kids with Down syndrome or other disabilities. The sickly. The elderly. The sanctity of human life varies not in sickness or health, poverty or wealth, elderly or pre-born, little or lots of melanin [making you darker or lighter skinned], or any other factor."
Duggar, 21, proceeded to quote from the Bible, writing: "If thou faint in the day of adversity, thy strength is small. If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain; If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not He that pondereth the heart consider it? and He that keepeth thy soul, doth not He know it? and shall not He render to every man according to his works?" (Proverbs 24:10-12) May we never sit idly by and allow such an atrocity to happen again. Not this generation. We must be a voice for those who cannot speak up for themselves. Because EVERY LIFE IS PRECIOUS. #ProLife"
I was impressed by this last paragraph by the TV Guide reporter.
The Holocaust claimed the lives of 6 million Jews and 5 million others, including gay people, gypsies, communists and those with disabilities. They were subjected to horrific experiments, mass exterminated and worked to death if they weren't killed on sight. Abortion is a legal procedure that one in three women undergoes. By legalizing abortion, it has helped reduce the number of unsafe and illegal means of abortion, which is a leading killer of pregnant women. Whatever your stance on abortion, comparing it to the Holocaust is tone-deaf, insensitive and irresponsible.
bullwinkle428
(20,626 posts)Right-wingers have been using this talking point since "Hector was a pup"!
"ZOMG...ABORSHUN IZ TEH HOLLA-COST!!!1!"
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Well everyone knows the rest.
rock
(13,218 posts)Opinions are like assholes, yours stinks! (Don't worry bullwinkle428, I got you covered -- rock).
shenmue
(38,501 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...fuck those kids, right genius? #ProLifeMyArse
cali
(114,904 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)I hear the strangest things from homeschooled people sometimes. Some are really sharp and homeschooled with other kids where the families pooled resources to hire an instructor, they usually know better than to even think stuff like that. But I knew a family who did christian home school, and if you read some of the textbooks , you can see that they are not always quite correct and they lack sexual education and reproductive health education.
I wonder if she is a quiverfull too.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 30, 2014, 03:47 PM - Edit history (1)
http://www.duggarfamilyblog.com/p/faqs.htmlbravenak
(34,648 posts)Michelle Duggar isn't just the mother of 19 children--she's their teacher as well! Michelle has homeschooled all of her kids from the beginning, and she and Jim Bob agree that it was one of the wisest decisions their family has made.
Why did the Duggars choose home education? Their inspiration came from Scriptures like Deuteronomy 6:6-7.
"Bible says to train up your children when you get up in the morning when you sit down, walk by the way, and when you go to bed at night...and we really felt like in order to do to fulfill that command, we really wanted to home school our children," Jim Bob told KLTV in an April 2011 interview.
Definitely homeschooled. They give off that vibe.
JI7
(89,172 posts)after watching the show it's not jim bob that is the problem as much as michelle duggar.
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spinbaby
(15,073 posts)I home schooled mine and he went on to graduate from college with honors. Home schooling is not the problem, teaching ignorance is the problem.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)And they need to be monitored very closely and tested to ensure they can teach the material to the students without the teacher. Often teachers are the first ones to notice signs of abuse and are mandated to report it. I worry that we have children who are abused with nobody to tell.
There was a case in our state where the kids were christian homeschooled and the abuse was horrifying.http://hsinvisiblechildren.org/2013/07/16/15-children-of-robert-hale-papa-pilgrim/
I feel bad for saying it but, I do not think homeschool should be permitted without frequent visits from a social worker or a tutor and maybe a councilor. Because of Papa Pilgrim.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Jury: Please read what I'm replying to. My response was mild.
vanlassie
(5,637 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)This is how it is supposed to work.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)And it will be hidden, I'm sure.
19. Homeschoolers should be removed from society and sterilized. They have no business raising kids.
Most homeschoolers are backward hillbilly types, child rapists, people who have procreated with their siblings, child kidnappers, racists or these freaks..
Anyone who babbles on about "homeschooling" should receive an automatic sentence of 10 years in prison, no exceptions the same goes for anti vaxxers.
They are a sick bunch ALL OF THEM!
Ilsa
(61,675 posts)Were the most liberal people on the block. They just didn't like school regimens, Texas schools, etc.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Some reasons among the folks I've worked with include:
Bullying at school and lack of safety in general.
Crappy curriculum, just packets of work and crowded classrooms.
No transportation.
It's not easy to homeschool, but I've seen some families and kids who turn out to be stellar students!
gordianot
(15,226 posts)The entire enterprise is designed to replicate ultra conformity with parental beliefs. Most likely this child will never change however there may be hope viewing the number of Westboro Baptist Church children that have escaped in recent years.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)like "Justice Scalia," "military music" and "jumbo shrimp."
Erose999
(5,624 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)No surprises there.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)gordianot
(15,226 posts)Faith based Genocide.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)I kid you not. It looks like something that is fit for a serial killer. An arsenal, throwing knives, axes, duck tape, machete, etc. I'm wondering if she (and Ben) are taking lessons on how to get people to swim with the fishes.
http://www.walmart.com/giftregistry/gr_detail.do?registryId=80542594009
(She also has one at Bed, Bath, and Beyond with normal things on there in addition to things like a flat iron for her hair).
(Their show's a guilty pleasure of mine and she's always been one of my least favorite--- she just strikes me as the Regina George of the group).
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I have not seen the show, just pictures and articles about the family.
JI7
(89,172 posts)it's too bad the one who recently got married was not allowed an education. she could have done really well in a job involving kids , whether being a teacher, doctor etc.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)Josh is also the one who works for a hate group (FRC). John-David does not bother me as much. He seems to have found his niche with a towing business and various construction projects.
I want some of the middle ones (Josiah, Joy-Anna) to rebel and be the spark that starts the rebellion of the younger ones (I love Jackson and Johannah and it will be sad how they'll be separated come puberty). Josiah's been sparking my gaydar and they've shipped him off to a Christian boot camp for the better part of the last year.
I think all hope is lost for Jinger on up.
JI7
(89,172 posts)they have a lot of potential and they are just really kind also.
joy anna would do great in jobs that are traditionally male but i'm afraid she will be forced into the kitchen . but she seems like the type who could do what her old brother john david does . the young girl jennifer has said she didn't want to get married. i realize she is young but she also doesn't seem to like bows and the coloor pink. if she could do what she wants i get a feeling she would love to just read books and maybe get into writing .
i get the gaydar with jackson but that could just be because he is into traditional female things the way joy anna seems to be more into the male activities.
this is what i hate about gender roles and it's even worse with this group as they will force them into roles they don't really have interest in just because they think if you are a boy you need to do this and if you are a girl you need to do that.
i just hope by the time the younger ones get older they just get too lazy with things and they are allowed a bit more freedom. they also seem to have connection to the internet so i'm hoping they are getting around the restrictions some way.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)And they're not the male mode that the Duggars want their boys to be. I think once one gets out (Josiah and Joy-Anna are the ones I have money on) then it will be a chain reaction. Joy Ana was the one I had rebelling because she's stuck in the middle of a bunch of boys and does not strike me as close to her older sisters (who all seem to be a clique) and is too old for her younger sisters. It's ashame that her sibling relationships were severed by her parents at puberty. She seemed happy in the early episodes and held her own with the boys. I'm glad they haven't beaten all the spunk out of her and she gives me great hope for rebellion (I'd personally help that kid).
Jackson is 10 and hasn't set off my gaydar yet. It's much harder to judge a prepubescent child's sexuality. I'm really hoping that by the time he and Johannah are older, the rules are completely loosened and they can still have that close relationship.
Tansy_Gold
(17,815 posts)Ah, the sad state of education.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)Well I should have kept on reading before I posted about the M&M's. Apparently its a family trait.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)I present to you Jill (Duggar) Dillard's baby registry
http://www.walmart.com/giftregistry/gr_detail.do?registryId=86182564264
DSD GROCERY
Description Price Availability Wants Has Quantity
Dr Pepper Soda, 20 fl oz
DRP 20Z
GREAT PLAINS COCA-COLA
Color/Size
NA/20OZ
UPC:
0007800008240
n/a
Store Only
1 0
Fanta Orange Soda, 20 oz
ORANGE 20OZ
GREAT PLAINS COCA-COLA
Color/Size
FNT/20.0FO
UPC:
0004900001916
n/a
Store Only
1 0
Gatorade Orange Sports Drink, 8pk
Gatorade Orange Sports Drink, 8pk
QUAKER SALES Amp DISTRIBUTION IN
4.8 out of 5 stars
Color/Size
ORANGE/20OZ8P
UPC:
0005200020807
$4.98
Purchased
1 2
Some of the other things I totally get (baby bath products, diapers, high chair, car seat, etc) but Dr. Pepper and Gatorade? How tacky do you get?
Chellee
(2,086 posts)I would like a 20oz Dr. Pepper, please.
Chellee
(2,086 posts)CANDY
Description Price Availability Wants Has Quantity
M MS PEANUT PEG PACK 1 0
MCLANE COMPANY
Color/Size
NA/5.3OZ
UPC:
0004000001732
n/a
Store Only
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)THAT'S who asks for M&M's as a wedding gift...
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)But a single towel off the registry or even dollar store frame with a crayon drawing in it would be a nicer present than a bag of beef jerky (another registry item) so who the hell knows what these people think?
lpbk2713
(42,696 posts)By virtue of the Godwin Rule.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)We've been told that it's unfair to criticize these anti-feminists on DU.
But it's perfectly okay for them to use their pulpit to advocate for the denial of my reproductive rights.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)Not unless they manage to escape their cult, that is. I don't see them as anything other than baby-making machines like their mother.
dflprincess
(28,057 posts)it must have happened within days of the wedding.
Though I'm praying for a 10 lb, 7 months baby
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Erose999
(5,624 posts)dflprincess
(28,057 posts)she doesn't mention Jews or Gays.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,481 posts)The Holocaust. If we she wants to compare other historical genocides to the Holocaust. She could kindly point those out.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)And, why should anyone give a rat's ass about her misguided, ignorant opinions?
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)She's one of the 19 kids. (I watch this as a guilty pleasure--- of the 19 kids she and her oldest brother are my least favorite). Normally we could dismiss this as crazy shit reality stars say, but her family is VERY political. Her dad was a state representative and unsuccessfully ran for US Senate (before he became famous for how often he knocks up his wife). Her oldest brother works for the Family Research Council and they have many political connections. Another brother of hers is a county level elected official.
They're GOP royalty (in socially conservative circles) and it's a matter of time before one of them runs for state or federal office. They have the money and name ID for a successful political run. The family just spoke at the Values Voters summit.
GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)...she's the spawn of a couple of big fish in a small pond. I can't believe most people give a shit what she or her parents think, regardless of their political connections.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)But her fiance (as idiotic as she is) aspires to be a politician and sadly, in that part of the country, idiots like these can and do get elected to public office.
You don't see the Kardashians influencing public policy the way the Duggars do.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts). . . can't wait for the next member of this homophobic hate cult to spew idiotic analogies and for our complicit media to lap it up while they ignore folks with a brain stem.
Efilroft Sul
(3,573 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Ilsa
(61,675 posts)No one cares.
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)I've seen quite a few right wingers make that comparison.
alp227
(31,959 posts)Oh wait, YOUR genes are so special?