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Mon Sep 29, 2014, 03:19 PM

National Review Writer: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Hanged

By DANIEL STRAUSS Published SEPTEMBER 29, 2014, 2:58 PM EDT

Kevin Williamson, a correspondent for National Review, suggested Monday that women who have abortions should be hanged.

Williamson's tweet came in a back-and-forth on twitter that started with Williamson's piece criticizing a blog post by actress and director Lena Dunham on why women should vote.

The key part of the exchange was captured by Charles Johnson of the blog Little Green Footballs. Here is the exchange:

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kevin-williamson-abortion-tweet

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Reply National Review Writer: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Hanged (Original post)
DonViejo Sep 2014 OP
Dawson Leery Sep 2014 #1
hifiguy Sep 2014 #2
merrily Sep 2014 #3
Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #44
NickB79 Sep 2014 #4
War Horse Sep 2014 #5
Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #33
gollygee Sep 2014 #6
TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #7
catbyte Sep 2014 #17
hifiguy Sep 2014 #24
GoCubsGo Sep 2014 #26
Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #8
nxylas Oct 2014 #36
Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #37
Aerows Sep 2014 #9
colorado_ufo Sep 2014 #19
Aerows Sep 2014 #21
Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2014 #35
Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #40
lpbk2713 Sep 2014 #10
Aerows Sep 2014 #11
lpbk2713 Sep 2014 #12
Aerows Sep 2014 #13
jmowreader Sep 2014 #29
Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #41
Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #14
ColesCountyDem Sep 2014 #15
Iliyah Sep 2014 #16
BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #18
HoosierCowboy Sep 2014 #20
JDPriestly Sep 2014 #31
N.Y. to Paris Sep 2014 #22
lark Sep 2014 #23
hueymahl Sep 2014 #25
GoCubsGo Sep 2014 #27
Hekate Sep 2014 #28
JDPriestly Sep 2014 #30
Caretha Sep 2014 #32
TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #34
abakan Oct 2014 #38
Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #39
WinstonSmith4740 Oct 2014 #42
shenmue Oct 2014 #43

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 03:32 PM

1. ISIS is in America in the form of Dark age Christianity.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 03:39 PM

2. Eeyup.

 

They probably already have the blasphemy laws and witchcraft statutes locked in a desk drawer somewhere, just waiting. Asshats.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 03:45 PM

3. The National Review editorialized in favor of Southern leadership

in the 1957 AND promoted Barry Goldwater. Nothing it has done since redeemed it from those sins. To the contrary, it continues to be shameful:

Current editor and contributors

The magazine's current editor is Rich Lowry. Many of the magazine's commentators are affiliated with think-tanks such as the Heritage Foundation and American Enterprise Institute. Prominent guest authors have included Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, and Sarah Palin in the on-line and paper edition.

.....


Finances

As with most political opinion magazines in the United States, National Review carries little corporate advertising. The magazine stays afloat by donations from subscribers and black-tie fund raisers around the country. The magazine also sponsors cruises featuring National Review editors and contributors as lecturers.[26][37]

Buckley said in 2005 that the magazine had lost about $25,000,000 over fifty years.[38]


Also contributors, the likes of Ann Coulter, Robert Novak, George Will and a host of other usual [strike]asshats[/strike] suspects.

All the above info was quoted or gleaned from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Review



Who should really be hanged, a woman who makes an agonizing choice, or so-called journalists who recklessly risk inflaming crazies to violence with comments about hanging people who are not only not violating any law, but are exercising a constitutional right?

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Response to merrily (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 03:41 AM

44. You mean, of course,

 

the National Socialist Review.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 03:57 PM

4. War on Women? What war on women?

Nothing to see here, move along.

And remember to vote Republican this fall, ladies!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 04:01 PM

5. This is supposedly the "fringe" of the GOP

I beg to differ.

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Response to War Horse (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:14 AM

33. The GOP luvs them some National Review long time.

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 04:03 PM

6. So much for the title "pro-life"

Women's lives don't seem to matter much to that crowd.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #6)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 04:26 PM

7. Exactly.....

 

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Response to gollygee (Reply #6)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 06:10 PM

17. Neither do post-fetuses once they shoot out the ol' birth canal.

They are transformed from God's Precious Miracles to leeches, mooches, and a drain on society, destined to be cannon fodder & to make for-profit prisons rich.

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Response to catbyte (Reply #17)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 01:26 PM

24. Ain't that the ever-lovin' truth.

 

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #24)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 05:05 PM

26. Love the fetus. Hate the child.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 05:00 PM

8. I'm starting a new religion.

 

Its basic tenet is that men who say women who have abortions should be hanged should themselves be strung up by their scrotums. Amen.

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:27 AM

36. And if anyone disagrees...

...scream and scream and SCREAM about how they're not respecting your beliefs.

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Response to nxylas (Reply #36)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:47 AM

37. Yes - They're oppressing me!!!

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 05:18 PM

9. I wouldn't be here

 

if it weren't for my mother having an ectopic pregnancy terminated. My father had to move her from a Catholic hospital so that she could get the life-saving procedure done. A few years later, they had me - because my mother was alive to have me.

I'm very much pro-life - the life it saved was my own. My opinions just don't coincide with supposed "Pro-lifers". Anybody that wants to force a woman to die instead of terminating a pregnancy that will kill her is dumber than a bag of hair and defeats their own purposes.

Anybody that wants to force a 10 year old child that is a victim of incest and sexual abuse to bear a child is inhumane.

Anybody that wants to force a woman that is raped to bear the child of her tormentor not only agrees with her torment, but wants to exacerbate it.

Anybody that wants to make a decision about whether or not a woman should be forced to bear a child for any reason wishes to make her a slave. No one has the right to force a woman's uterus to bear children. You aren't that important. If a woman decides to abort a pregnancy, she has good reason for doing so and if it hurts your feelings, too bad. She didn't want to bear your seed and probably has very good reasons for not wanting to do so, such as "I can't afford to give a child the life they deserve", "I don't like you that much to commit to a lifetime of being associated with you", or "the condom broke and you aren't worth my time".

All of those are valid reasons.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:31 AM

19. Agree with you on all points.

But I would like to add: Women, please think more of yourselves than to have sex with a man with whom you would take the attitude, "the condom broke and you aren't worth my time." Sex is serious business, no matter how much we deny that. If the condom breaks, you will bear the child, suffer (and often pay for) the abortion, or maybe get the STD. Please be discriminating about the people with whom you share your body. Nurture your pride and self-esteem.

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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #19)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:39 AM

21. Considering that I don't sleep with men

 

I don't have that problem, but you are also correct about being picky about who you choose to sleep with.

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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:20 AM

35. Then there are men who can't be bothered to wear a condom.


Couple is married. Woman gets pregnant, man (husband) tells her she needs to get an abortion, because children cost money and he is a control freak tightwad. Wife has no familial descendants, children, or nieces or nephews. Husband has good job and good insurance. He's trying to get her to put it off until she's too old to have babies, and then it won't be his responsibility.

Woman, being pro-choice and pregnant, refuses to get said abortion. Parent have resources and maturity to raise child, although husband does not believe wife is competent. He thinks he's God. Husband stops taking baths and refuses to have sex after woman recovers from childbirth, because he's afraid of being "trapped" into fatherhood. Wife and husband never discussed contraception or how many kids they wanted before marriage. Condoms have never been mentioned or used in this.

Three years after healthy beautiful child is born, mother finally gets tired of being told in so many words that her child is not attached to her emotionally by husband, and files for divorce. Husband is baffled after withholding affection of any kind of years. Husband also stops doing activities both he and wife enjoy, after child is born, because he is "tied down" by a baby, and he is trying to punish the wife for having a healthy beautiful baby.


What kind of a mentally ill person is that? MAD at his wife for producing a healthy, normal, beautiful baby? Hates women, hates children, apparently too late for the wife to figure out.



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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:46 PM

40. TMI: this is why I've never shared it with ANYONE. And probably never will.

Because of the TMA issue: too many assholes. I am childfree and actually had myself "fixed" in 2012 because I didn't trust what asshats in a potential Romney administration would do to restrict my right to safe and (currently) legal reproductive self-determination.

It wasn't even so much that I would ever electively want to get pregnant.

I even feared having to carry a potential pregnancy to term if I was raped.
Because after all, it's "my fault" if such a thing were to happen, amirite?

One Dick Murdoch said something along the lines of pregnancy by rape is an act of God. No way in hell, heaven, Middle Earth or any other fictional realm was I ever going to let these idiots make decisions about MY BODY. So rather than take my chances I just did away with the whole thing.

We are living in very volatile times in which TPTB simply cannot be trusted to make the humane and logical decision to leave women the fuck alone. I know at least in the abstract that it's #notallmen who think this way, but I really just can't take my chances, especially being on a college campus and all.

I think we need a Lysistrata 2.0 to get these guys where they live. No sugar tonight in your coffee, no sugar tonight in your TEA.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 05:21 PM

10. A 19th Century punishment surpassed by a 19th Century point of view.




Why am I not surprised?


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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 05:28 PM

11. Women have been

 

having abortions and have used herbal remedies to have them for thousands of years. Even the Bible has a portion on how to abort a pregnancy (though it sounds like a bunch of snake oil hokum).

Sanctimonious shitbags that think this is a new phenomenon are either completely ignorant of the female human body and history, or think of themselves as so fantastic that their genetics simply must go on.

There are no guarantees.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 05:35 PM

12. Of course they have.




I only meant to infer people became a bit more enlightened in the 20th Century.

But not people like the subject of the OP obviously.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 05:40 PM

13. Idiots like that make me so angry

 

No matter what, there is always some dumbass trying to drag humanity back into the dark ages and proclaim themselves "saintly" for doing so. Hello, inventing the wheel and harnessing the power of fire were GOOD things.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 05:31 PM

29. The Bible's abortion technique is designed not only to remove the fetus...

...but also to remove your ability to have any more children. And since it would do it fairly reliably, it was kind of the Salem Witchcraft Trial of the era: if you're not a witch you won't drown when we shove your head under water and hold it there for twenty minutes, so it goes without saying that if you drown from this you had to have been a witch.

What that passage really says is frightening: if you think one of your 85 wives is screwing around on you, it's totally permissible to destroy her body in retaliation. The only way they can convince anyone to become a Christian, is to keep them from reading the primary book of the faith.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:55 PM

41. Honestly, I don't know why anyone would even want to bring kids into this world anymore.

Especially daughters. This country is not safe for them. Even the far more civilized EU is no longer protected from Islamofascist whack jobs who spill over the borders and blow up subway trains to impose their primitive Sharia bullshit on modern society. These so-called pro-lifers are going to get a big, bad wake-up call if people just stop having kids (or engage in Chinese-style sex-selective abortions) and have no more daughters anymore because of walking scrota like Williamson, Todd Akin, Ray Rice, and Elliott Rodgers -- not to mention the inbred morons in politics who give them carte blanche to do and say what they do. Because "religious freedom" or "she antagonized him" or "the pre-born soul" or some other schizo nutcase horseshit like that.

Without any more girls to victimize, there won't be any more nurturing mothers to rear their precious scions. And then their whole attempt at purifying the human race for Jebus (or Allah) will have backfired: there won't be any more humans to swallow their Kool Aid anymore.

But hey, maybe mass extinction is exactly what these assholes need. Too bad it wouldn't be just them being rendered fossils like the dinosaurs they don't even believe exist.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 05:54 PM

14. But there's no Republican war on women

. . . and I'm a retired kamikaze pilot.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 06:00 PM

15. Who says Neanderthals became extinct?

When I read things like this, I check my calendar to make sure we're in C.E. .

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 06:06 PM

16. Jeezbus

Lord have the mercy, what a bunch of lunatics.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #16)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 06:06 AM

18. Pretty much what my brain said as well

This answer really hit it home to me

@AngryBlackLady "Because he knows that almost every pro-lifer is one unintended pregnancy away from being pro-choice."

Because how many doctors and nurses can tell stories about a staunch pro-lifer coming in for an abortion? Lots.

These smug, self-righteous assholes can spout all this nonsense because they will never have to decide whether or not to have an abortion. They don't care if a woman dies, she's just a baby incubator that might be making new woman-hating males, so they are far more important. When did every single human zygote become so important? Have we become so self-centered that we think we need infinite copies of ourselves? Why are these people so fucking insane?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:32 AM

20. Considering that two out of three pregnancies...

...are terminated naturally without abortions, I guess Mr. Williamson is going to put the Almighty up on the scaffold first.

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Response to HoosierCowboy (Reply #20)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:07 PM

31. You are of course talking about natural miscarriages.

The whole abortion uproar is ridiculous. Women do not get pregnant just to lose the baby. Men who think that -- women who think that -- are way out of touch.

Abortion is sort of like homosexuality was 40 years ago. People oppose it without realizing that some of the people they like or even love have abortions or have had an abortion. It's just ignorance about the medical facts of pregnancy, birth and conception.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:57 AM

22. Really?

What about the MEN who rape, lie us into war, or devise a scheme to destroy the middle class and step on the poor? National Reviews Ass! It's none of your business asshole, and what about those on the right that have had abortions? Are they somehow forgiven because God is on their side?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:58 PM

23. If women get hanged, the guy that got them pregnant needs to hang too.

That the male is totally ignored and the female faces all the opposition and punishment just exposes the Repugs hatred and fear of women.
They are truly the American Taliban. Don't see why they fight Sharia law so hard, then try to enforce it at the same time. Disgusting misanthropes.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 03:07 PM

25. So, here's a question for Mr. ProLife

If the women gets pregnant again before she is hanged, do you wait until she has a baby before you hang her? Just asking, because, you know, it's important to protect life!

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Response to hueymahl (Reply #25)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 05:06 PM

27. I'd like to pose that question to them.

I think it would cause the two brain cells they share amongst them to explode.

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Response to hueymahl (Reply #25)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 05:16 PM

28. There's plenty of precedent for that; it was called "pleading her belly"...

... and could buy a condemned woman time before hanging or transportation to a prison colony. Of course some elderly midwives would be called in to the prison to confirm the pregnancy, but still.

Ah, the things one can learn from reading English novels from prior centuries.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:05 PM

30. While campaigning for Democrats my husband met a young man and his pregnant wife

who said they voted Republican because of the abortion issue. My husband asked this young man whether he thought women who had abortions should be tried for homicide. He said yes. Then my husband asked him, "If your baby is a girl, and she has an abortion, do you think she should be tried for homicide?"

The young man was silent. He really couldn't answer that question.

Women have abortions for many reasons. If this loudmouth Republican's daughter had an ectopic pregnancy or some other horrible complication, he would have a different opinion. When your daughter's life hangs in the balance, you feel differently I strongly suspect.

People who say that abortions are homicide don't know much about the potential complications of pregnancy and birth. They should not be given media attention. They are ignorant.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:18 PM

32. Who is Kevin Williamson

 

and why should we care?

Is he busy trying to be outrageous so we pay attention to him? Does his out-rageousness make him more marketable so he can get name recognition & make more money?

Shouldn't we shun him and point our fingers and laugh as if he was a "holy roller" playing with snakes & speaking in tongues and rolling in the dirt in some smelly sweat infested white evangelist tent in the middle of fucking nowhere?

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Response to Caretha (Reply #32)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:00 AM

34. Who is Kevin Williamson and why should we care?

Exactly what I was wondering.

After that I then wondered why anyone bothered making a post about some nobody asswagon saying something despicable on the intertubes... ya know, like some nobody asswagon saying something despicable on the intertubes just NEVER happens.

This place gets more stupid by the hour.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:06 PM

38. Men who think like this...

Should be drawn and quartered. Seems fair to me...

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:33 PM

39. Kevin, you're such a disease!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:55 PM

42. You guys ever see "The Handmaid's Tale"?

Google it...it'll scare the hell out of you. It was written in 1985, the movie came out somewhere around 1988. Dystopian future, totalitarian Christian theocracy set up after a staged terrorist attack (blamed, of course, on Islamic extremists) that killed the President & most of Congress. The Constitution is immediately suspended on the pretext of restoring order. Women lose all rights and are used as breeders for the ruling class. Anyone having an abortion is hung, along with the doctor who performed it. Something tells me just like "Atlas Shrugged" is Paul Ryan's bible, this is Williamson's.

Be afraid...be very afraid. This is EXACTLY what these assholes are working towards. Then work to GOTV in November. If we can get (especially) young women to the polls, we'll get these idiots out office. Otherwise, we're screwed. And not in the good way.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:52 AM

43. Die for trying to stop an ectopic pregnancy! Die!




Oh wait... Kinda defeats the point...

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