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Sat Sep 27, 2014, 08:33 PM

Cuomo: Still won't cater to teachers' union. Says he doesn't need their endorsement.

He's planning on treating teachers and other employees the same as before. In 2010 he and his running mate announced they would take on public employee unions....and they did.

"What the Democratic Party is all about is growth and change," Cuomo said. "It's a new day. There are new problems that need new approaches. And that is what's meant by the new Democratic Party."

.."One change from the "old" Democratic party seems to be the willingness of Cuomo and his running mate Robert Duffy to take on a powerful constituency -- the public employee unions. Duffy has battled with union leaders in Rochester over some of his controversial proposals, including his call for more control of city schools. Cuomo says he respects that.

"Yes, he tangled with public employee unions," Cuomo said. "Guess what, we're going to be tangling with public employee unions going forward."


AND he's going to do it again when re-elected. He's proud of his stance against public employee unions.

Cuomo: No Shift In Treatment Of Teachers In Second Term

From State of Politics:


Asked about whether he’s shifting his tactics post-primary, Cuomo said he wouldn’t change his approach to public workers and teachers labor organizations.

“I knew what I was doing when I did not cater to the teachers union. I didn’t have to take the endorsement of the teachers union the first time, by the way.”


He's probably right. He apparently doesn't need teachers on board to win. I wonder if that is true of the nation-wide races coming up this year.

I think they believe it to be true, that teachers are not a necessary factor for winning...because there has not been one single solitary favorable move toward this group since 2009.


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Reply Cuomo: Still won't cater to teachers' union. Says he doesn't need their endorsement. (Original post)
madfloridian Sep 2014 OP
noiretextatique Sep 2014 #1
TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #2
orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #7
TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #29
orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #30
geek tragedy Sep 2014 #21
TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #28
LWolf Sep 2014 #3
yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #13
LWolf Sep 2014 #25
WinkyDink Sep 2014 #4
LWolf Sep 2014 #5
madfloridian Sep 2014 #12
orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #6
SheilaT Sep 2014 #8
orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #10
salib Sep 2014 #18
SheilaT Sep 2014 #19
BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #9
adirondacker Sep 2014 #11
orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #14
adirondacker Sep 2014 #16
orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #24
awoke_in_2003 Sep 2014 #15
immoderate Sep 2014 #17
busterbrown Sep 2014 #20
QC Sep 2014 #22
ReRe Sep 2014 #23
whathehell Sep 2014 #26
djean111 Sep 2014 #27
socialist_n_TN Sep 2014 #31
Generic Other Sep 2014 #32

Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 08:35 PM

1. you know it is bullshit

when he uses "new" so often. new really means old, in thirdwayspeak.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 08:35 PM

2. Cuomo: Still a complete dumpster fire on his best day.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 08:47 PM

7. That's an insult to dumpsters .

 

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Response to orpupilofnature57 (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:21 PM

29. They do serve a beneficial and practical purpose so my apologies to dumpsters

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #29)

Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:28 PM

30. Your intent was honorable, Cuomo sucks !!!

 

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 11:27 PM

21. Dumpster fires provide warmth and light, unlike Cuomo. nt

 

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #21)

Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:16 PM

28. Fair enough

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 08:36 PM

3. Hopefully

he won't mind losing more than their "endorsement."

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Response to LWolf (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:22 PM

13. He just won again

 

Does he have term limits? I doubt he cares about something four years from now. He is a strange Democratic person though.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #13)

Sun Sep 28, 2014, 09:31 AM

25. I don't know New York.

A "strange Democratic person" is certainly one way to put it.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 08:41 PM

4. Not one politician cared about "education" when teachers' salaries (and pensions) were low. NOW?

 

They all want the money that pours from testing, from textbook publishing, from privatizing. but they want to GET there from attacking the current salaries and especially the pensions.

STILL not about actual education. When has a politician discussed actual subject matter, aside from the bromide "need more math and science"?

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 08:43 PM

5. It looks like teachers aren't the only ones




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Response to LWolf (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:16 PM

12. Excellent video. Thanks for sharing.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 08:46 PM

6. He thinks debate doesn't do anything to inform voters, 1% truster .

 

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 08:58 PM

8. While he's probably making a big political mistake,

 

I have long been bothered by the need on the part of those running for office to get endorsements. Often, getting those endorsements involves out and out pandering to whatever that group wants. It is almost impossible for anyone running for office to simply stand up for his or her beliefs and get elected that way. Nope. Gotta have the teachers. Gotta have the firemen. Gotta have the NRA. and so on.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:07 PM

10. He panders to the 1%, which cuts down our needs by 99%

 

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:52 PM

18. What?

If I want help understanding whom to vote foe and do no become an expert in all the subtleties of the candidates, of it is not coming clear because no one has forced the question in a way powerful enough to get a real answer, I want the liberal groups who are working so hard for whatever issue and spend my donations doing it I want them to force the answers and endorse accordingly.

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Response to salib (Reply #18)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 10:09 PM

19. I understand.

 

But many candidates will twist themselves around so as to get endorsements from as many groups as possible. Teabaggers seem willing to say "Screw you, I don't care" to anything that's not in line with their extreme views, but moderates and liberals more often (from what I can see) will do their best to get as many endorsements as possible.

I do pay a small amount of attention to such endorsements, and when I haven't learned anything else about a candidate, I will often use endorsements to help me figure out who to vote for. But I'm still bothered by it.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:06 PM

9. Arrrrrrrrrgh

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:08 PM

11. That Koch funding must be going a long way. nt

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Response to adirondacker (Reply #11)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:28 PM

14. + 1000 !!!

 

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Response to orpupilofnature57 (Reply #14)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:38 PM

16. If Zephyr had the backing and funding by the Democrats she would have

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Response to adirondacker (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 28, 2014, 07:33 AM

24. A Friend was disheartened to see he was 1 of 12 votes in

 

Cayuga County, a result of Right Wing Media .

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:29 PM

15. It is sad...

 

that even democrats go after unions anymore. Party of the people- right.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:45 PM

17. Triangulation.

 

He's another Reaganite DINO.

--imm


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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 11:12 PM

20. Oh for fuck’s sakes...

Just announce your plans to join with the Republicans already... Andrew..

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 11:30 PM

22. The best part of him is a crusty stain on the mattress.

Honestly how could Mario Cuomo father such a waste of protoplasm as this?

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sun Sep 28, 2014, 01:06 AM

23. Andrew's all mixed up...

... he thinks he's a Demorcat. I hope NY comes to it's senses and dumps this jerk.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sun Sep 28, 2014, 09:34 AM

26. What a dick -- May he lose BIG.

I really LOVE this dissing of teachers and public sector unions -- They're now

officially no different than the Repukes.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sun Sep 28, 2014, 09:58 AM

27. And someone here at DU once suggested a Clinton/Cuomo ticket. Good grief. n/t

 

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:39 PM

31. This is why we need an ACTUAL workers' party.......

Dems, even apparently in New York state, don't feel the need to stand up for workers anymore.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sun Sep 28, 2014, 02:03 PM

32. Guess teachers need to sit a few election cycles out

along with labor in general. Time for Democratic leaders to be taught which side their bread is buttered on. FUCK THEM for publically attacking their own while kissing ass of those who hate them hoping for a few crumbs from their master's table. Maybe the Koch brothers will back Cuomo. I hope to god he doesn't have presidential aspirations because he just wrote off a whole lot of votes. Including mine.

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