A thought my wife had: What will happen when our own version of the Taliban--Christian fundies see

[diabeticman]

a female President. If it is Hillary or some other woman becomes President. How do you think they will react seeing a woman in a "man's role" For the duggar style quiver movement who think it is a sin for a woman to wear pants how will they react to see a woman wearing jeans or shorts let alone a pant suit.


Yeah, we don't have man but it won't take much to have one of them snap.

[mr blur]

1. But the bible is Hillary's favourite book. She said so!

She'll get a pass.

[VanillaRhapsody]

5. so? Thomas Jefferson actually wrote one

Its in the Library of Congress if you want to find it.

[csziggy]

10. Thomas Jefferson edited his own version of the New Testament

Though most people refer to it as the "Jefferson Bible."

<SNIP>
In fact, Jefferson was devoted to the teachings of Jesus Christ. But he didn’t always agree with how they were interpreted by biblical sources, including the writers of the four Gospels, whom he considered to be untrustworthy correspondents. So Jefferson created his own gospel by taking a sharp instrument, perhaps a penknife, to existing copies of the New Testament and pasting up his own account of Christ’s philosophy, distinguishing it from what he called “the corruption of schismatizing followers.”

<SNIP>

Much of the material Jefferson elected to not include related miraculous events, such as the feeding of the multitudes with only two fish and five loaves of barley bread; he eschewed anything that he perceived as “contrary to reason.” His idiosyncratic gospel concludes with Christ’s entombment but omits his resurrection. He kept Jesus’ own teachings, such as the Beatitude, “Blessed are the peace-makers: for they shall be called the children of God.” The Jefferson Bible, as it’s known, is “scripture by subtraction,” writes Stephen Prothero, a professor of religion at Boston University.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/how-thomas-jefferson-created-his-own-bible-5659505/?no-ist

Smithsonian Channel has a lovely documentary about the preservation of one of the originals that Jefferson created interspersed with information about Jefferson's beliefs and why he created this version of the New Testament. Unfortunately, Smithsonian Channel is not widely available - but if you ever get a chance to watch the program, it is well worth it.

[VanillaRhapsody]

27. yes exactly.....i would venture to guess

He would also have listed it the exact same way HRC did.. .its just another bullfuckingshit criticism.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

12. Not that Hillary is any fundie's favorite choice

But most Christians see exceptions in the bible, particularly the Old Testament.

Just that the 99% of women are not supposed to be the exception.

[VanillaRhapsody]

29. my grandparents were died in the wool FDR Democrats

And both taught Sunday School....It insults them to make this bullfuckingshit criticism of HRC.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

30. Yep.

The longer we go, the less of a fan I am of Hillary, although I voted for her in the primaries. I'm just sick of the corporate masters controlling her, but they sure control Obama, as well, so I don't know that we're going to do any better.

[cbayer]

36. This has zero to do with the topic of this OP.

Do you think that will make it all ok with the christian right?

[B2G]

2. They'll start chopping off journalists heads, no doubt.

[diabeticman]

4. My wife asked this because of the way we saw the rise in Death threats and just the tension in this

country since President Obama took office. It has been scary to hear the way some people talk about him..

[FiveGoodMen]

24. Give them time.

They have a track record.

http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm

http://markhumphrys.com/christianity.killings.html

[LanternWaste]

31. Or controlling women's bodies through male-enacted legislation, no doubt...

Or controlling women's bodies through male-enacted legislation, no doubt...

[BlueCaliDem]

3. They'll freak OUT. She's a Democrat. She won't get a pass from the Christian Taliban.

Not in a million years.

[B2G]

6. What the hell have the Duggars or the Quiverfull movement

ever done to justify equating them with terrorists??

I get that you disagree with with their values...that they aren't liberal, but jesus, really? To lump them into a group of people who chop off heads and fly airplanes into buildings? Are you really that intolerant of other lifestyles?

My god, sometimes the shit I read here astounds me.

[avebury]

9. The problem with the Quiverfull movement is their

desire to work towards domination by trying to out populate all other groups.

[B2G]

11. Yeah, that's a total danger

Right after the whole explosive vest at local flea markets thingy.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

14. And if we said that about Muslims

geesh

[ncjustice80]

35. The vile Quiverfulls are a far greater danger than Islamic Extremism.

And that includes other tea partiers- think Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph!!!

[wandy]

25. I don't know how far quiverfull gets into Dominionism. Still some groups..........

do a good job of proving that even the love of god can be taken too far.

Dominionism and the Rise of Christian Imperialism

Dominion theology is predicated upon three basic beliefs: 1) Satan usurped man’s dominion over the earth through the temptation of Adam and Eve; 2) The Church is God’s instrument to take dominion back from Satan; 3) Jesus cannot or will not return until the Church has taken dominion by gaining control of the earth’s governmental and social institutions.

http://www.discernment-ministries.org/ChristianImperialism.htm

And the difference between this and radical islm is............

[YarnAddict]

33. Do you mean besides

the beheadings and suicide bombings?

[wandy]

34. Hay I'll admit, they haven't even converted anyone at the edge of a sword.........

Yet!

[FrodosPet]

7. So what should the 99.9% of non-Duggar movement do?

If they escalate to actual violence, do you believe that they should be captured (if possible) or dealt with by self-defense measures? or should we say "No more war! No more violence!" and let them do as they will?

[brooklynite]

16. How about: stop imagining?

Many of these folks are in a State that's had a female Governor; I'm sure they didn't vote for her, but nothing happened other than more biblical study while hiding under the covers.

[FrodosPet]

18. That's an attack on the moral equivalence position

American exceptionalism with a twist. We are the best at being the worst.

[linuxman]

8. Without a doubt

they will start car bombings, burning down secular institutions, and kidnapping rivals to be killed unless demands are met. Our Christian righting terrorists are a super big issue if she is elected.




I can't even tell if I'm being hyperbolically trolled anymore.

Yes, I'm sure folks like the Duggars are going to start shooting folks if Hillary wears a pantsuit as president.

[cali]

13. The same thing that happened when Obama became President

it will ramp up hateful sexism just as electing Obama ramped up racism.

You seem to forget that a lot of these nutcases supported Palin.

[B2G]

15. I'm not sure I get your point

A lot of them supported Palin, yet their sexist? Does that even make sense?

[cali]

19. a lot of them support Ben Carson too. They're still racists.

carving out an exception doesn't change that.

[B2G]

20. So if I detest Palin and Cain,

Am I sexist and racist?

Not trying to be difficult. I just don't see everything in life through an 'ism' lens. Sometimes it's about policy positions.

[cali]

23. are you spewing racist or sexist comments as so many of their supporters do?

No? Then, no.

this isn't rocket science.

[HuckleB]

17. Well, we know how they react to a male African-American president.

So, I'm fairly sure that we have a good idea about how they'll respond.

[FrodosPet]

21. If they mass an armed force and start bombing, raping, and beheading

Then I support violent, armed people acting under the color of law to stop them. Preferably by capture, with humane treatment if they quit the fight, but if they refuse to surrender - do what is necessary to stop them from bombing, raping, and beheading.

[randome]

22. Just as the Mideast is going through its own Reformation, we are passing through a mini one here.

With Pope Francis finally coming around (for the most part, anyways), the days of the Taliban-Christian fundies, as you call them, are limited.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]If you don't give yourself the same benefit of a doubt you'd give anyone else, you're cheating someone.[/center][/font][hr]

[liberal N proud]

26. It will be just as bad as a black man

Imagine how their heads would explode if it were a black woman?

[3rdwaydem]

28. It will most certainly be Hillary and

if they didn't "snap" over Obama I doubt they will over Hillary.

[jwirr]

32. They will treat her in the same way as they did Bill Clinton and now President Obama.

[XemaSab]

37. They see female leaders as a sign of judgement

So a lot of sack cloth and ashes.

Most of them don't think wearing pants is a SIN, exactly, just ill-advised.