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Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:53 PM

Full video link to the John Crawford police shooting in Beavercreek Ohio

http://www.whio.com/videos/news/surveillance-video-john-crawford-iii-at-walmart/vCtDmK/

In case you are unaware, the grand jury did not rule for any indictment.

Let me share that this is about 15 minutes long...shows John browsing, shopping and talking a lot on his cell phone. He was in his own zone...it truly looked as if he was taken totally by surprise in my opinion. You judge for yourself. Shooting is at the very end.

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Reply Full video link to the John Crawford police shooting in Beavercreek Ohio (Original post)
FarPoint Sep 2014 OP
uppityperson Sep 2014 #1
Beaverhausen Sep 2014 #3
uppityperson Sep 2014 #4
FarPoint Sep 2014 #5
FarPoint Sep 2014 #6
Lochloosa Sep 2014 #2
sandpan Sep 2014 #7
sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #8
SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #13
countryjake Sep 2014 #9
Catherine Vincent Sep 2014 #10
FarPoint Sep 2014 #11
countryjake Sep 2014 #12

Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 09:04 PM

1. Is he supposed to have pointed a gun at the cop or people? wtf? ETA more wtf

http://wdtn.com/2014/08/06/police-2-officers-confronted-shot-walmart-suspect-waving-weapon/
The chief says the officers arrived within three minutes of the call and their quick action kept the situation from escalating further.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 09:31 PM

3. the witness who called 911 said he was pointing the gun at people but recanted recently

don't have a link, but read it a few weeks ago. The guy said he lied about Crawford pointing his gun at other shoppers.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 09:45 PM

4. I see him randomly and nonchalantly twiddling it around, swinging it up and back and not paying

attention to much of anything. They didn't need to shoot him, could have given him a moment to react. "The chief says the officers arrived within three minutes of the call and their quick action kept the situation from escalating further" my shiny butt.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 10:02 PM

5. I perceive that statement to be a gross embellishment of the visual facts.

When discussing the scenerio with others, I ask them to substitute their own son in John Crawford's place and then ask themselves, was it justified now? I sense the answer is no.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:24 PM

6. Lots of empty claims....

I did not see an immanent threat, no hostages or threatened bystanders... No evidence of the toy gun being used in any threatening posture towards anyone. Everyone but Ron Ritchie, aka George Zimmerman 911 caller...and the ONLY 911 caller by the way, all others ignored or discounted him as just another shopper.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 09:07 PM

2. That could have been me.

Of course, I'm white so I would be alive.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:22 AM

7. Those cops are murderers!

 

I watched the video. The man pulled the pellet gun off the display rack and as he walked around the store, he played with the pellet gun. BTW the gun was not packaged in card board and plastic. Why not? Everything I buy from the store is sealed in heavy plastic. I watched 15 minutes of non-eventful video and he threatened no one. At the end, the cops ran into camera view and the cops immediately shot him. God damn it; it was a stupid pellet gun. Now I am really fearful of cops. Does walmart and other stores make surveillance videos of everyone that enters their doors? If so, I'll never walk into another store again. Or does walmart and other stores only make surveillance videos of specific individuals? If so, I'll never walk into another store again.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:58 AM

8. Another murder by cop. This is the second thread on murder by cop today.

What a sad country this is. Violence is the answer!

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:49 PM

13. No time for this.. ISIS, ISIS, ISIS....

A Radical Muslim cuts off the head of a journalist in a foreign country, off to war for us. A cop shoots an unarmed person on the streets of America, nada. Another one... nada... another one.. nada... nada nada nada...


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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 04:35 PM

9. Thanks for posting this, FarPoint.

My opinion is that this was a modern-day lynching. Ronald Ritchie and his wife, April, provided false information to the authorities both before and after the shooting, resulting in the homicide of John Crawford III and also the death of the terrified shopper who collapsed after the cops began shooting inside that Walmart.

Like you, I am familiar with that area and the murder of this young black man and the resulting exoneration of those responsible for his death does not surprise me, at all.


Doubts cast on witness's account of black man killed by police in Walmart Sunday 7 September 2014
Alleged to have threatened customers, John Crawford, 22, was having a phone conversation while holding an unloaded BB gun
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/07/ohio-black-man-killed-by-police-walmart-doubts-cast-witnesss-account


U.S. Department of Justice to review Walmart shooting Wednesday, Sept. 24, 2014
http://www.whio.com/news/news/local/us-department-justice-review-walmart-shooting/nhTNz/

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:00 PM

10. Will there be any charges

Will there be any charges whatsoever of the guy that called 911 in the first place? If not, that is sad. I hope his guilt keeps him up at night.

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Response to Catherine Vincent (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:44 PM

11. As far as I know....no.

My doubt's were reinforced when the prosecution entertained Ron Riche to a private viewing of the Walmart tapes so he could prepare for the grand jury testimony. They are now BFFE.

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Response to Catherine Vincent (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:37 PM

12. Listen to Ritchie lying on his 911 call, claiming Crawford pointed gun at two kids

At 4:31 on this video of the surveillance tape:

(Warning: Graphic murder)

Walmart surveillance tape shows Police shooting & killing John Crawford III, 9-1-1 call

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