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Thu Sep 18, 2014, 03:25 PM

Lawsuit: Cliven Bundy's Wandering Cows Allegedly Caused Car Crash

woman sued Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy for negligence since a cattle he let roam on public land caused her to crash her car, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.

In April, the Bureau of Land Management let Bundy use federal land for his cattle even though he hasn't paid grazing fees in years after an intense standoff between the rancher's militia and the federal government.

Just two days after the BLM released Bundy's cattle, multiple cows wandered onto an interstate highway, where one collided with a car. The crash killed the cow and seriously injured a Las Vegas woman. Danielle Beck filed a lawsuit on Sunday and said Bundy "recklessly, carelessly and negligently allowed his cows to enter onto Interstate 15 through an area where he had no grazing or other rights."

"Itís a state problem. Itís not our problem," Bundy told the Review-Journal. "We really feel bad when it happens. We sure donít want it to happen. But weíre not liable."


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bundy-lawsuit-negligence-cow





Bundy really is the King of Wanting it Both Ways.

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Reply Lawsuit: Cliven Bundy's Wandering Cows Allegedly Caused Car Crash (Original post)
LanternWaste Sep 2014 OP
CanonRay Sep 2014 #1
hack89 Sep 2014 #6
TransitJohn Sep 2014 #13
hack89 Sep 2014 #14
Ikonoklast Sep 2014 #23
hack89 Sep 2014 #24
Volaris Sep 2014 #18
hack89 Sep 2014 #25
pnwmom Sep 2014 #22
Travis_0004 Sep 2014 #9
gwheezie Sep 2014 #2
LanternWaste Sep 2014 #4
valerief Sep 2014 #5
gwheezie Sep 2014 #10
valerief Sep 2014 #11
Wellstone ruled Sep 2014 #3
LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #8
gejohnston Sep 2014 #32
no_hypocrisy Sep 2014 #7
ck4829 Sep 2014 #12
hatrack Sep 2014 #15
ck4829 Sep 2014 #16
panader0 Sep 2014 #17
SmittynMo Sep 2014 #19
SummerSnow Sep 2014 #20
misterhighwasted Sep 2014 #29
pnwmom Sep 2014 #21
gejohnston Sep 2014 #30
Blue Owl Sep 2014 #26
Zambero Sep 2014 #27
gejohnston Sep 2014 #31
misterhighwasted Sep 2014 #28

Response to LanternWaste (Original post)

Thu Sep 18, 2014, 03:30 PM

1. How the hell is his wandering cattle a state problem?

I sure hope the Feds finally nail this jerk.

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Response to CanonRay (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 18, 2014, 04:18 PM

6. The hole in the fence that allowed the cows on the freeway

is what he thinks is a state problem. The issue is who is responsible for the fence.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 19, 2014, 08:25 AM

13. There's not fence on open range eom

n/t

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Response to TransitJohn (Reply #13)

Fri Sep 19, 2014, 08:29 AM

14. The article says there is a fence to keep cows off the freeway - it had a hole in it. nt

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Response to hack89 (Reply #14)

Sat Sep 20, 2014, 09:04 AM

23. And his cattle had no legal right to be there.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #23)

Sat Sep 20, 2014, 09:39 AM

24. Not saying they did

Just pointing that there was a fence and that is what the dispute is about.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:02 PM

18. If he had paid his grazing fees, Uncle Sam would have had the cash to fix the fence.

So fuck him

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Response to Volaris (Reply #18)

Sat Sep 20, 2014, 09:40 AM

25. Not if the state is responsible for the fence. Nt

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Response to hack89 (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:26 PM

22. The state is responsible for the fence. n/t

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Response to CanonRay (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 18, 2014, 04:53 PM

9. Most of Nevada is open range

 

Which means they are free to roam, and its your reponsibility to keep them out (or the state DOTs responsibility to maintain a highway fence.

If this was anybody but bundy I would agree with him that he is not at fault. If they can make a case that the cows were illegally grazing then they can probably show that Bundy has liability.

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Response to LanternWaste (Original post)

Thu Sep 18, 2014, 03:39 PM

2. Some states have fence in laws

And others have fence out laws regarding livestock. I don't believe there is any fed law requiring livestock be contained.

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Response to gwheezie (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 18, 2014, 04:02 PM

4. Whoosh.

Whoosh.

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Response to gwheezie (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 18, 2014, 04:14 PM

5. Some states have Pay Your Grazing Fee laws, too. nt

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Response to valerief (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 18, 2014, 08:07 PM

10. I think Bundy is a fucking traitor

I hope he drowns in his manure pit. I'm just saying not all laws require you to fence in your livestock

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Response to gwheezie (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 18, 2014, 08:22 PM

11. He's a fuckin' waste of oxygen. nt

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Response to LanternWaste (Original post)

Thu Sep 18, 2014, 03:44 PM

3. This could get a bit dicey.

Freeway fences are maintained by the Nevada Highway Department. Any breaches in the fence will be a issue. BTW,can't remember if this stretch of I-15 is covered by Open Range Law. If it is,Ms.Beck might be crap out of luck. She,hopefully not,will have to pay the owner fair market value for the cow. Good Luck Ms.Beck hope you nail this sucker.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 18, 2014, 04:24 PM

8. Do you think that the court would consider that

technically, the cattle aren't on the property legally? Fed/State/squatter mishmash of legally confusing bull manure?

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Response to LiberalAndProud (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 22, 2014, 12:16 PM

32. no.

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Response to LanternWaste (Original post)

Thu Sep 18, 2014, 04:20 PM

7. Waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Will Bundy sue her for killing his cow and for the value thereof?

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Response to LanternWaste (Original post)

Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:43 AM

12. "Get off MY land, government!" Trouble happens "Save me, government!"

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #12)

Fri Sep 19, 2014, 09:08 AM

15. For all other situations: "Not my fault!" Not MY fault!" "NOT MY FAULT!!!"

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Response to hatrack (Reply #15)

Fri Sep 19, 2014, 09:16 AM

16. Speaking of fault...

State faults Cliven Bundy in I-15 cow crash

He's still trying to weasel out of it though; it's the teacher's fault for hitting his cow that he needed to control, and it's the government's fault for not keeping his cows fenced in.

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Response to LanternWaste (Original post)

Fri Sep 19, 2014, 09:25 AM

17. Here in So Az, there are open range laws.

If I don't want cattle on my land, I have to fence them out. About thirty years ago I hit a young black bull as I came out of a dip in the road. It was dead. It took everything my friend and I had to pull it off the road. I had just bought the truck days before.

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Response to LanternWaste (Original post)

Fri Sep 19, 2014, 08:04 PM

19. Bundy is a total POS

So how come nothing has happened since the last encounter? That SOB owes the government, big time.

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Response to LanternWaste (Original post)

Fri Sep 19, 2014, 09:47 PM

20. Bundys cows have an important message...

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #20)

Sat Sep 20, 2014, 12:26 PM

29. hahaa..

that is funny

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Response to LanternWaste (Original post)

Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:24 PM

21. I asked a Nevada rancher. He says technically it's the state's job to keep the freeway fences intact

though they don't do such a great job of it.

And that people driving out there are supposed to be on the lookout, so they don't run into stray cattle.

He pays his grazing fees, by the way, so he's not a fan of Bundy's.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #21)

Mon Sep 22, 2014, 12:11 PM

30. the fences are more for deer and other wildlife than

Or at least in my neck of the woods anyway. Sometimes highways cut across migration trails. Wyoming put in over and under passes for migrating deer and pronghorn. I don't know about Nevada, the driver would be legally responsible for killing the cow.

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Response to LanternWaste (Original post)

Sat Sep 20, 2014, 09:47 AM

26. Udderly pathetic

n/t

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Response to LanternWaste (Original post)

Sat Sep 20, 2014, 12:10 PM

27. Bundy, the guy that won't pay manadated grazing fees

A portion of those fees go to repair and maintain rangeland fences. Since Bundy refuses to abide by policies that would contribute to the safety and security of his stock, AND to the safety and security of the general public using the interstate in the affected area, he would have no standing in shifting blame away from himself and onto to the state or any other level of government. Bundy is left holding a bag that he managed to create for himself.

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Response to Zambero (Reply #27)

Mon Sep 22, 2014, 12:13 PM

31. if he were grazing on state land

but the BLM don't care about game fences (it's more about deer than cows). But then, if it were state land, his bill would be a lot more than $1.35 per AMU.

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Response to LanternWaste (Original post)

Sat Sep 20, 2014, 12:21 PM

28. Bundy will now sue the State for not fixing the fences, causing the death of his cow.

in 5-4-3-2-1..

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