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A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:16 PM Sep 2014

I visited the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn last week. Care to take a look? (Pic heavy with vids)

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I visited this museum when I lived in the area in the 1990's and they have updated their collection since then. There is now an IMAX Theater and the entrance to the museum is now at the corner of the building, instead of the southern side.

This place is a machinery/history nerds paradise! So, take a walk with me and I'll show you some of what I looked at.

THE ENTRANCE HALL

The new entrance area with the Farm Implement/Machinery display in the distance;


To the right of the above photo sits one of the Oscar Meyer Weener mobiles;


FARM MACHINERY

One of the turn of the century Steam "Traction Engines" they have. I intentionally took this shot with the man in the frame to give a sense of scale. He was easily 6' 1" and even though he is closer to the camera, it gives an idea how large the rear wheels are - at least 7 1/2' in diameter. What I find fascinating about these engines is how low the horsepower was - about 30 with this one, if I remember correctly - but the massive amount of torque they could generate because unlike a gasoline piston engine, a steam engine is powered on both sides of the stroke;


INDUSTRIAL STEAM

There is an area dedicated to large Steam Engines used for various purposes including electrical generating and for operating an entire factory floor of machines, such as a textile mill. This is one I found interesting and rather beautiful, as the cylinder is clad in wood;


The Flywheel for the above machine. Note the trench in the floor allowing the engine to be mounted at floor level but providing space for the flywheel to rotate;


A closer shot of the Flywheel and trench;


A steam powered electric generator of the type installed at the very first Edison power plant in New York City. Easily 12 to 15' above the floor and several below floor level;


The centerpiece of the steam engine collection is a massive unit, a dual cylinder electric dynamo, one of six installed at the original Highland Park Ford factory. They transported this one from the old plant and basically built the museum around it!

Here's the plaque describing it with a short video I made to follow;


Sorry about the audio quality, as I didn't want to be too loud!


In my narration I say that the stroke is "four or five feet". Clearly the plaque says 72", So...I was wrong, but still....A SIX FOOT STROKE! Amazing.

Another vid of a model depicting a machine shop operated by a single steam engine;


AVIATION

Moving on...they have updated their aviation display since I was here. They have this copy of the Wright Flyer. This particular aircraft I have seen before, as it was on display at an Open House held at Edwards AFB in California in 2002. This airplane was built to exactly copy the original, right down to the fabric on the wings and the way that fabric was made. Their intent was to fly it at Kill Devil Hills, NC at the exact moment on the 100th anniversary of the first Wright Brothers flight, 10:35 AM, December 17th, 2003. They were ready to go, but the weather did not cooperate so they couldn't pull it off. Imagine flying this thing, steering it by shifting your hips!;



They have a couple "Tri-Motor" type aircraft, this one is representing the Byrd Arctic Expedition;


And this beautiful example of a Douglas DC-3 which is mounted in the center-line of the old entrance hall;


TRANSPORTATION

The Automotive collection is, as one might expect, impressive. Being a truck driver, I was taken by the examples of trucks they had. The way it was done at the dawn of the motorized delivery truck;



A beautifully restored 1952 Federal 45M Tractor and Fruehauf Trailer. (Hat tip to DU'er Lithos for setting me straight on the make and year of the tractor) I regret not taking a photo of the plaque;


There were too many cars to photograph each one, so I just got a few interesting examples.

When racecars looked like racecars!;


A line showing the advancement of the motorcar;


RAILROADS

The Railroad hall includes this enormous 2-6-6-6 "Allegheny" Steam Locomotive, among the largest and most powerful Steam Locomotives ever built;


If you look closely enough or have a way to zoom in, that's me hanging out the Engineers window!;


A model of the locomotive to give you a different perspective;


A short video I made of it. I state it is a "2-6-6-4" Missed the rear truck by 2 wheels!


Henry Ford's private rail car, the "Fairlane";


A Huge wedge style snowplow;


PRESIDENTIAL LIMOUSINES

They have a collection of Presidential Limousines. First in line is the Horse-drawn Brougham used by Theodore Roosevelt;


The FDR "Sunshine Special";


The Eisenhower "Bubbletop";


The Kennedy Car;


Plaque for the above;


The Reagan Car;


ODDS AND ENDS

The at one time ubiquitous Holiday Inn Sign. There are only a handful of these left still operating. An American Icon for decades;


A wall of curious devices, probably used sometime in the Jurassic period! I suspect they were used for something like cracking nuts or training Kookaburras to mate.


A close-up of one corner of the above display. I took all these pictures as well as the videos with a hand held device completely unthinkable when the first of these phones was made.


I hope you enjoyed this as much as I enjoyed putting it together. It is really a superb museum and well worth the visit if you are ever in the Detroit area. I suppose you could spend a day and a half if you were to read every plaque, but I was through in about 4 hours.

Here's their website;

http://www.thehenryford.org/index.aspx


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I visited the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn last week. Care to take a look? (Pic heavy with vids) (Original Post) A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 OP
I'm guessing they don't serve any kosher items at the snack bar. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #1
or at The Kennedy Compound in Hyannisport? reddread Sep 2014 #3
In Papa Joe's day, yes. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #7
possibly a more significant thing to gloss over reddread Sep 2014 #12
Not really, when you consider that Ford's hate publication "The International Jew" Ken Burch Sep 2014 #14
yes, really. When you consider the historical turbulence surrounding his family reddread Sep 2014 #15
You know, I purposefully left out such references, as this was simply a report on a Museum visit, A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #4
OK...it has an interesting collection... Ken Burch Sep 2014 #8
And by posting this thread..... A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #9
I have no personal beef with you. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #11
Are you still in town? IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #68
I KNEW the first response to this post would not AngryDem001 Sep 2014 #58
One of my favorite things was the Allegheny! A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #60
What amazes me is at one time they AngryDem001 Sep 2014 #62
If you're at all a steam enthusiast, and in case you weren't aware, you may be interested in this; A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #63
"You can have any color you like, as long as Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #19
Detroit area orthodox rabbis would disagree! Barack_America Sep 2014 #98
Didn't know that. n/t. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #100
Very cool. drm604 Sep 2014 #2
You're welcome. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #30
What an awesome series of pictures Kurska Sep 2014 #5
I appreciate it! A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #31
Huge Rec for your great photos, documentation, and vids. Thanks for sharing! nt adirondacker Sep 2014 #38
Well, thanks! A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #40
That looks very cool. tammywammy Sep 2014 #6
He was an interesting character, to say the very least. n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #32
Did you get to Henry Ford Village? amandabeech Sep 2014 #10
I was going to go the following weekend, but the weather wasn't nearly as nice and I slept in! A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #13
The village is best on a nice day. amandabeech Sep 2014 #16
Thankyou Wash. state Desk Jet Sep 2014 #18
You are very welcome! n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #33
Okay, MY turn to piss on your parade... The Ford Museum and not ONE pic of a Mustang or Edsel? cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #17
LOL....well, like I said, way too many cars! A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #23
Wow, extensive museum NV Whino Sep 2014 #20
You're welcome. n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #29
Wonderful OP.Those of us who live in the area are very sufrommich Sep 2014 #21
No doubt. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #28
Yep. I grew up in Michigan and remember the field trips. kcr Sep 2014 #43
I agree,very nostalgic and good memories. sufrommich Sep 2014 #65
Didn't you get to see the Rosa Parks bus? Or the Lincoln asassination chair? navarth Sep 2014 #22
I did indeed see the bus... A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #25
It is difficult to photograph in there with a phone, I can verify that. navarth Sep 2014 #34
You're probably right. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #37
Rochester Hills navarth Sep 2014 #42
LOL...No worries. I was up there driving a tractor trailer. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #51
Did you visit the Edison workshop nearby? JVS Sep 2014 #24
No, just the Museum that day. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #27
Thank you for sharing your photos. QED Sep 2014 #26
Me too! A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #35
I believe it's a Federal Tractor Lithos Sep 2014 #36
Precisely! Thanks! A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #39
I saw the president in a parade in the safeinOhio Sep 2014 #41
Cool! A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #45
Thank you for sharing! Great photos. I read that those huge wedge plows were called cow-catchers.nt Mnemosyne Sep 2014 #44
LOL...Hadn't heard that, but it makes sense! Glad you liked the thread. n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #46
Loved it! Fantastic thread. Thank you. R B Garr Sep 2014 #47
I'm very glad you liked the thread. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #53
Thanks for the thread, RGinNJ Sep 2014 #48
You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it! n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #54
Great Collection of Pics rpannier Sep 2014 #49
Thanks, and you're welcome! n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #55
I love every picture, and this makes me want to go there right now! NBachers Sep 2014 #50
Well...thank you. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #56
Thanks so much for a great series of photos and commentary too! auntAgonist Sep 2014 #52
I have heard the Greenfield Village winter light display is something to see.... A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #57
Thanks for the thread, I'd love to see it. mountain grammy Sep 2014 #59
Glad you liked it! n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #61
Wonderful stuff, but you forgot to post the photo of the Tyrrell-Ford P34... Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #64
THAT one I would have remembered and gotten a pic of! A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #81
Nice photo tour, thank you! MerryBlooms Sep 2014 #66
You are very welcome! n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #82
Thank you for sharing this interesting collection of pictures. Tanuki Sep 2014 #67
I'm very glad you liked the thread. n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #83
Definitely have to get my three boys up there Bettie Sep 2014 #69
It is well worth it! A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #84
Thanks for the great pics Crabby Appleton Sep 2014 #70
You are most welcome. n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #85
A cool idea treestar Sep 2014 #71
Glad you liked it! n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #86
I loved it all! catnhatnh Sep 2014 #72
You know.....I had been thinking of that car a lot since I put up the thread.... A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #87
Thank you for this thread. SheilaT Sep 2014 #73
You are very welcome! I'm glad you liked it. n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #88
Thank you so much for that tour!! The Ford Museum is on my bucket list. MindPilot Sep 2014 #74
Your experience at Ford must have been interesting. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #89
Oh how I envy you!! What an amazing collection! I'm not a Henry Ford "fan" but enjoy cntrygrl Sep 2014 #75
I'm glad you liked it. n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #90
Thanks for sharing, it's been a while since I have been liberal N proud Sep 2014 #76
You're welcome. n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #91
Thanks for posting the great pics! delete_bush Sep 2014 #77
Yes I did! It was fascinating. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #93
My parents lived in the Fuller house for delete_bush Sep 2014 #101
I was there in 2006 clg311 Sep 2014 #78
Time to go back? LOL...you are welcome. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #94
Thank you. I visited there 40 years ago. GoCubsGo Sep 2014 #79
Worth another visit, to be sure. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #95
Nice tooeyeten Sep 2014 #80
You are very welcome! I'm glad you liked it. n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #96
Proud museum member here! Barack_America Sep 2014 #92
You probably know it very well by now! A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #97
Still always something new to see. Barack_America Sep 2014 #99
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
1. I'm guessing they don't serve any kosher items at the snack bar.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:19 PM
Sep 2014

People who know about Henry Ford's views regarding certain religious/ethnic minorities will understand.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
12. possibly a more significant thing to gloss over
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:45 PM
Sep 2014

than it is to focus on Ford's anti-jewish activities, shameful as they are.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
14. Not really, when you consider that Ford's hate publication "The International Jew"
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:49 PM
Sep 2014

contained most of the material Hitler based "Mein Kampf" on.

Joe Kennedy Sr., was a fascist jerk(and it's unforgiveable that he had his daughter Rosemary lobotomized-a procedure that left her massively impaired for life)but he doesn't have anything like THAT on his record.

If I sound like a wet blanket here, sorry...but "cool stuff" doesn't make things like this not matter:

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
15. yes, really. When you consider the historical turbulence surrounding his family
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:56 PM
Sep 2014

the only thing Ford did in comparison was put Americans to work.
Since I wasnt that clear- the implications of Kennedy attitudes towards
NAZI efforts and resisting US involvement in opposition while Ambassador to
Britain or whatever his title?
I begin to wonder about future family policies and relations with Israel down
the road. I best get some reading glasses.
More surprises and historical relevance there, than down the Ford road.
LOVE that DOHC powered Lotus.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
4. You know, I purposefully left out such references, as this was simply a report on a Museum visit,
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:33 PM
Sep 2014

not a political commentary.

I had a photo of a statue of Henry I was going to include, but didn't for fear it would provoke someone.....to say something like you did.

Well, one can always rely on DU'ers to piss on a parade, regardless of how harmless the intent.

I am well aware of Mr. Fords political leanings, his history of anti-semitism as well as his initial support of the Nazi regime.

NONE OF THAT makes one wit of difference to the fact that the museum I visited has an interesting collection.


But hey, thanks for the kick.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
9. And by posting this thread.....
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:43 PM
Sep 2014

and not making mention of Mr. Ford's politics, is that what you are suggesting I am doing?

Look Mr. Burch, let's just leave it at that, shall we?

You have a great evening.

AngryDem001

(684 posts)
58. I KNEW the first response to this post would not
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:10 AM
Sep 2014

be to congratulate you on a VERY COOL museum visit or to complement you on the pics, but to bring up political commentary. If I had a nickel for every time that it happened.

That being said, I LOVE the locomotive! That thing is freaking MASSIVE!!!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
60. One of my favorite things was the Allegheny!
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:18 AM
Sep 2014

Big machines like that just absolutely fascinate me.

And...well...as far as the 1st reply....water under the bridge.

Thanks for the compliment!

AngryDem001

(684 posts)
62. What amazes me is at one time they
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:36 AM
Sep 2014

thundered down the rails. I would love to stand next to the tracks and feel the ground SHAKE as it went by.......

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
63. If you're at all a steam enthusiast, and in case you weren't aware, you may be interested in this;
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:49 AM
Sep 2014

Union Pacific Railroad has undertaken the restoration to operating condition, one of the (arguably THE) largest steam locomotives ever built, a 4-8-8-4 "Big Boy", number 4014, that sat on display at the Pomona Fairplex in Pomona, CA since the early 1960's. Earlier this year they moved it from Pomona to their Steam Shops in Cheyenne, WY, a move chronicled on many YouTube videos;

http://www.up.com/aboutup/special_trains/steam/locomotives/4014/index.shtml

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union-Pacific-4014-restoration-BIG-BOY/455623014535432

&list=PLh3l5IvpX5hZztabS0OtO8kJYRVmLnsxR


Dozens of other vids on YouTube, just search "UP 4014 Big Boy"

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
98. Detroit area orthodox rabbis would disagree!
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:53 AM
Sep 2014

Funny you should shit on the museum and village when local Jews consider it a point of community pride.


http://cordetroit.com/community/about/

The Greater Detroit community is home to a variety of interesting tourist attractions, including Belle Isle, a 1,000 acre island park that houses the nation’s oldest fresh water aquarium, a breathtaking conservatory, and many beautiful bike trails. Nearby Dearborn is home to the Henry Ford Museum and Greenfield Village, one of the top ten tourist attractions in the nation. Windsor, Ontario, Canada is less than a mile across the Detroit River.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
6. That looks very cool.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:38 PM
Sep 2014

I just happened to watch the other week a PBS American Experience episode on Henry Ford.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
10. Did you get to Henry Ford Village?
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:43 PM
Sep 2014

I visited there as a child a couple of times.

I really liked looking at Edison's old laboratory.

My family lives on the other side of the state, but I really should get down to the Henry Ford again. It has a great collection, as you note.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
13. I was going to go the following weekend, but the weather wasn't nearly as nice and I slept in!
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:45 PM
Sep 2014

I wanted to visit the village, to be sure, but that would take several hours in itself. I was staying all the way up in Rochester Hills and this was a Monday, so by the time I got done, it was time to go join the afternoon rush hour!

Next time, for sure.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
16. The village is best on a nice day.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:01 PM
Sep 2014

It's just a good excuse to come back again!

It does take a good chunk of time.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
17. Okay, MY turn to piss on your parade... The Ford Museum and not ONE pic of a Mustang or Edsel?
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:14 PM
Sep 2014

Seriously? My first car was a 67 Mustang Fastback... You couldn't find a Mustang in there?

Don't hold your breath waitin' on that nog, buddy.

Just kiddin'. Virginia has promised to email me when the run starts.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
23. LOL....well, like I said, way too many cars!
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:29 PM
Sep 2014

On the grounds there is the Automotive Hall of Fame or some such. Didn't get in there either!

They have an incredible collection of vehicles from all the big three as well as numerous other marquis. They have a Bugatti Royale. The have a GM EV1, one of only a small handful to survive. They have Edsels, Thunderbirds, Mustangs, Corvettes, Toyota's, Beetles, A VW Minibus, Duesenburgs, Cords, Locomobiles, Dureas, they have a Tucker - and on and on and on. They have a display of the development of the minivan! The car collection is quite frankly, overwhelming.

I have many regrets for not taking more photos, but I was actually thinking of this thread as I was taking the shots, and I just didn't want it to get out of hand.

Next time, old friend, I'll make a point of it, OK?


And looking forward to the start of the run!

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
21. Wonderful OP.Those of us who live in the area are very
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:22 PM
Sep 2014

proud of our museum and Greenfield Village,both monuments to this area's importance in the industrial age.Anyone who grew up in this area will tell you that yearly school trips to The Henry Ford and Greenfield Village are a common memory and still very popular.I'm sorry someone took the opportunity to shit on your OP in the very first post,I would advise anyone who is offended by the Ford name to stay away from the Detroit area,because it's everywhere.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
65. I agree,very nostalgic and good memories.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 07:24 AM
Sep 2014

I have a permanent souvenir of The Henry Ford in the form of a small scar on my forehead.My parents took us to the museum when I was 4 years old,I was bored and decided to flip on one of those velvet ropes protecting something from crowds and hit the corner of a metal post holding the ropes.Needless to say,it ruined my parents trip to the museum.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
22. Didn't you get to see the Rosa Parks bus? Or the Lincoln asassination chair?
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:24 PM
Sep 2014

Those should not be missed, for any of you that visit The D.

I got to be friends with Lou LoMonaco, the artist that designed the pamphlet for the March On Washington (King's dream speech, etc.) and Lou's design is featured in the HFM civil rights exhibit. It's quite extensive and we took Lou there to see his famous work on display. Quite a day, it was.

The Rosa Parks bus is completely restored (I believe Pres. Obama sat in it the last time he visited Detroit) at great expense to the museum.

Ken Burch and others might find this interesting, in that a HUGE museum started by that asshole Henry Ford has a comprehensive civil rights history exhibit. And this in Dearborn, a Detroit suburb that was once known as a racist hellhole and is now home to the largest arab population outside of the Middle East. No bullshit.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
25. I did indeed see the bus...
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:33 PM
Sep 2014

in fact, that entire display is interesting but not very photogenic, as it is sort of enclosed by walls so with only my iPhone as a camera, getting good shots was difficult in confined spaces.

The entire display that included the bus was really interesting, including artifacts and information on the women's suffrage movement, as well as the civil rights struggles of the African American community.

I must say I missed the chair though.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
34. It is difficult to photograph in there with a phone, I can verify that.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:43 PM
Sep 2014

Got the shots to prove it.

The chair is right there in the exhibit!! I'll bet you walked right by. It's a little creepy. I was looking for the bloodstains. It's behind glass, as big as life.

Next time.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
37. You're probably right.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:47 PM
Sep 2014

I probably did walk right by it.

As I mentioned in the OP, one could spend a day and a half, easy. I didn't get there till about 10:30 (it opens at 9:00) and I did have the 30 mile drive back to Rochester Hills at the back of my mind all day, so I admit I hurried through the Civil Rights display. Also it was the first time in about 14 years I had been in Dearborn and wanted to visit a couple other spots in town after the Museum.

Anyway......I'll visit again and take more time.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
42. Rochester Hills
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 11:03 PM
Sep 2014

from Dearborn. OH the humanity. There AIN'T no good way to get there, and once you're there you're in...Rochester Hills...

I hope that doesn't offend you. My brother lives in Rochester Hills. I hate driving out there.

Anyway, I'm waaaay too far off topic.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
51. LOL...No worries. I was up there driving a tractor trailer.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:00 AM
Sep 2014

I work for a company based here in Jacksonville and I have been up there on and off since late May covering new business. We have a trip a day running down to Atlanta and back, so there is two trucks, each has a two man team. We have been able to hire 3 guys that live in the area but the 4th seat has been difficult to fill, so they have been sending a driver from our yard here up there to cover the open seat. I have been doing that for much of the last 3 1/2 months.

I lived in Dearborn, Inkster, Redford and Farmington Hills when I lived in the area from 89 through 99.

So no, you aren't offending me in the least!

JVS

(61,935 posts)
24. Did you visit the Edison workshop nearby?
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:31 PM
Sep 2014

The Henry Ford museum and Greenfield village are fantastic.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
27. No, just the Museum that day.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:34 PM
Sep 2014

As I said above, I was planning on returning the following week on my next day off, but since the Village is mostly an outdoor kind of deal that requires a lot of walking to see, I decided not to go as the weather had turned, making for a less than pleasant day.

QED

(2,747 posts)
26. Thank you for sharing your photos.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:33 PM
Sep 2014

The DC-3 is very cool as is the orange tractor-trailer.

I love museums like this!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
35. Me too!
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:43 PM
Sep 2014

If you like or are interested in aviation and travel the Midwest at all, go and see the National Museum of the US Air Force in Dayton, OH.

Their collection is amazing.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
39. Precisely! Thanks!
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:52 PM
Sep 2014

You can barely make out the Roadway tractor trailer behind it in that shot. A single axle Ford tractor of the type that Roadway bought several thousand. Another all too common sight on the highways in the 60's and 70's.

Like this one;



It was just positioned in such a way as to not allow a decent shot of it.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
47. Loved it! Fantastic thread. Thank you.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 11:18 PM
Sep 2014

I know my SO would love to visit this place. I've never even set foot in Michigan, but we just loved Chicago and will be visiting again soon, and we thought about driving through Michigan to the Gerald Ford Presidential Library, so maybe we can plan this, too... He would enjoy this.

Really loved these pics and the info!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
53. I'm very glad you liked the thread.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:03 AM
Sep 2014

While Detroit gets a bad rap, Michigan is quite a beautiful state and the Detroit area has much to offer, this museum being just one.

You won't regret including this in your trip, and when you make it, drive safe and enjoy!

RGinNJ

(1,019 posts)
48. Thanks for the thread,
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 11:28 PM
Sep 2014

in my youth I went their with both my parents and on school field trips. Fantastic place lots of good memories. I still like the trains the best.

NBachers

(17,098 posts)
50. I love every picture, and this makes me want to go there right now!
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 11:51 PM
Sep 2014

I'd take my brother, who's a hopeless gearhead, and could expound for hours on each and every item there.

Thanks for this great photo essay!

Some du'ers need to medicate their brainal hemorrhoids. The pissy comments are unwarranted, and not in the generous spirit in which you shared your trip with us. Thank you.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
56. Well...thank you.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:05 AM
Sep 2014

You are very kind to say what you did.

And yes, if your brother is indeed a gearhead, he'll love it!

auntAgonist

(17,252 posts)
52. Thanks so much for a great series of photos and commentary too!
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:02 AM
Sep 2014

I love going to the Ford and to Greenfield Village.

It's quite a wonderful experience.

Hubby and I went there at Christmas one year (coldest friggin' winter we've had in years) and took the walk through the village at night. What a magical experience it was. So many wonderful memories. We had a terrific time. Dinner afterwards made for a perfect date night for us.

Next time you're stuck up here, let us know. We'd be happy to get together!


thanks again.

aA
kesha

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
57. I have heard the Greenfield Village winter light display is something to see....
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:08 AM
Sep 2014

and in the ten years I lived there, I never made it over, even though one house I rented I could just about walk to it!

The motel they have been putting me up in is at MI 59 and Crooks road, about 3 miles from the Silverdome (or what's left of it!)

It's possible I'll be back up in a week or so. We shall see. I'll let you know!

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
64. Wonderful stuff, but you forgot to post the photo of the Tyrrell-Ford P34...
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:39 AM
Sep 2014

There must be one in there somewhere...

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
81. THAT one I would have remembered and gotten a pic of!
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 12:49 AM
Sep 2014


I remember seeing it race on TV. It was a sled, but it was a cool sled!

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
67. Thank you for sharing this interesting collection of pictures.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 08:23 AM
Sep 2014

You had me at the Oscar Meyer Weinermobile, and it just got better and better. Thanks, also, to poster Navarth for mentioning that the Rosa Parks bus exhibit is also there. I saw the moving picture of President Obama sitting in her seat but did not make the connection to the bus being in Detroit. I have never been to Detroit but hope to go in the near future to see the fabulous collection at the art museum and now will include this too.
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Bettie

(16,086 posts)
69. Definitely have to get my three boys up there
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 08:42 AM
Sep 2014

They would love to see this collection and Greenfield village.

A lot of historical figures weren't good people by today's standards. One can hope that if they were around today, their views would have evolved as society did, but those who are dead are unable to change.

Few people are all good or all bad. We need to accept shortcomings as part of being human.

And these sites (Museum and Greenfield Village) are amazing learning opportunities. Must plan this for next summer!

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
72. I loved it all!
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:49 AM
Sep 2014

Your photo "When racecars looked like racecars!" nudged a memory and I had to check-yep-you picked an absolute beauty. Jim Clark's 1965 Indianapolis 500 winner. Model 38 Lotus-first rear-engined winner and first non-american winner.

Because we love serendipity, here is a brief Bio of Jim Clark, an inaugural inductee to the Scottish sports hall of fame which seems appropriate on a day when Scotland votes a referendum on Independence....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Clark







Again,thanks for a great post.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
87. You know.....I had been thinking of that car a lot since I put up the thread....
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 12:57 AM
Sep 2014

And...well, I am embarrassed to say, I was involved in Indy Car racing for 7 years and it didn't dawn on me that that was Jim's car!

Why? Because at that point of my tour I was sort of hurrying, and I recognized the car but didn't look at the plaque!

I can be a bit of a dummy sometimes!

Yes, as you pointed out, it is one that has remarkable historical significance. Revolutionary, as well - just as much as Don Garlits first rear engined dragster.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
73. Thank you for this thread.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 06:22 PM
Sep 2014

And shame on the posters who simply wanted to piss and moan about how terrible a human being Henry Ford was, as if that makes this museum irrelevant.

My husband was from the Detroit area, so we used to visit his family once or twice a year. We had two sons, and once in the 1990's we got them out to the museum, and another time a couple of years later to the Village. Both things require a full day, maybe more, to do properly.

If I ever get back to that part of the country I should visit again.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
74. Thank you so much for that tour!! The Ford Museum is on my bucket list.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 06:36 PM
Sep 2014

I spent the first half of my working life with Ford.

One of men I work with now is an electrical engineer. When he was a student at Michigan U he was on the team that restored the original power generators at the River Rouge plant.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
89. Your experience at Ford must have been interesting.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:38 AM
Sep 2014

as I mentioned, I lived in the area all through the 1990's, the first 7 years I was working in the motor racing industry and the latter portion I hauled cars. The company I worked for when I started hauling Open Rack was E&L Transport, who at the time claimed to be the longest continually operating auto transport firm in the country. Their primary customer was the Ford Motor Company, and even during WWII when domestic auto production was halted, they moved bomber fuselages from The Rouge facility to Willow Run, for final assembly.

I have been on the property of the River Rouge Plant dozens of times and have talked to quite a few people knowledgeable of its history. Back when it was first completed it was capable of making every single item needed for a car except the rubber for tires. They even had a leather tannery on site for the seats. (I hold this statement to be true because I am talking about the days before the advent of the AM radio for cars)

I lived in Dearborn when the # 6 Boiler exploded at the power plant, killing 6 workers. It was a stark reminder that heavy industry was right down the block and it always is dangerous work.

cntrygrl

(356 posts)
75. Oh how I envy you!! What an amazing collection! I'm not a Henry Ford "fan" but enjoy
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 06:56 PM
Sep 2014

the historic value of his museum. Oh mercy .... very exciting, indeed. Thank you!

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
76. Thanks for sharing, it's been a while since I have been
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 07:09 PM
Sep 2014

I think the airplanes were new when I was last there.

delete_bush

(1,712 posts)
77. Thanks for posting the great pics!
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 07:22 PM
Sep 2014

I've wanted to visit the museum for years now, someday!

By chance, did you see Fuller's Dymaxion House?

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
93. Yes I did! It was fascinating.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:45 AM
Sep 2014

For those not familiar;



This was the last thing I went through before I left, and I regret not taking a single photo, but it was a very interesting concept and design.

It was indicated that the museum had the only surviving example. Pretty cool.

delete_bush

(1,712 posts)
101. My parents lived in the Fuller house for
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:04 AM
Sep 2014

several years. I was living elsewhere at the time but did visit for holidays, etc. I wish that at the time I was more aware of its significance, but beyond being a 'cool place' I had no interest.

The museum is definitely on my list of things to do. It would be strange to see a house with this personal connection in a museum!

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
79. Thank you. I visited there 40 years ago.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 08:23 PM
Sep 2014

I wasn't old enough to appreciate it then. I wish I could go back now.

tooeyeten

(1,074 posts)
80. Nice
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 08:39 PM
Sep 2014

Thanks for sharing your experience and taking time to post all this. Now I want to take a trip to see for myself.

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