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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI visited the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn last week. Care to take a look? (Pic heavy with vids)
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I visited this museum when I lived in the area in the 1990's and they have updated their collection since then. There is now an IMAX Theater and the entrance to the museum is now at the corner of the building, instead of the southern side.
This place is a machinery/history nerds paradise! So, take a walk with me and I'll show you some of what I looked at.
THE ENTRANCE HALL
The new entrance area with the Farm Implement/Machinery display in the distance;
To the right of the above photo sits one of the Oscar Meyer Weener mobiles;
FARM MACHINERY
One of the turn of the century Steam "Traction Engines" they have. I intentionally took this shot with the man in the frame to give a sense of scale. He was easily 6' 1" and even though he is closer to the camera, it gives an idea how large the rear wheels are - at least 7 1/2' in diameter. What I find fascinating about these engines is how low the horsepower was - about 30 with this one, if I remember correctly - but the massive amount of torque they could generate because unlike a gasoline piston engine, a steam engine is powered on both sides of the stroke;
INDUSTRIAL STEAM
There is an area dedicated to large Steam Engines used for various purposes including electrical generating and for operating an entire factory floor of machines, such as a textile mill. This is one I found interesting and rather beautiful, as the cylinder is clad in wood;
The Flywheel for the above machine. Note the trench in the floor allowing the engine to be mounted at floor level but providing space for the flywheel to rotate;
A closer shot of the Flywheel and trench;
A steam powered electric generator of the type installed at the very first Edison power plant in New York City. Easily 12 to 15' above the floor and several below floor level;
The centerpiece of the steam engine collection is a massive unit, a dual cylinder electric dynamo, one of six installed at the original Highland Park Ford factory. They transported this one from the old plant and basically built the museum around it!
Here's the plaque describing it with a short video I made to follow;
Sorry about the audio quality, as I didn't want to be too loud!
In my narration I say that the stroke is "four or five feet". Clearly the plaque says 72", So...I was wrong, but still....A SIX FOOT STROKE! Amazing.
Another vid of a model depicting a machine shop operated by a single steam engine;
AVIATION
Moving on...they have updated their aviation display since I was here. They have this copy of the Wright Flyer. This particular aircraft I have seen before, as it was on display at an Open House held at Edwards AFB in California in 2002. This airplane was built to exactly copy the original, right down to the fabric on the wings and the way that fabric was made. Their intent was to fly it at Kill Devil Hills, NC at the exact moment on the 100th anniversary of the first Wright Brothers flight, 10:35 AM, December 17th, 2003. They were ready to go, but the weather did not cooperate so they couldn't pull it off. Imagine flying this thing, steering it by shifting your hips!;
They have a couple "Tri-Motor" type aircraft, this one is representing the Byrd Arctic Expedition;
And this beautiful example of a Douglas DC-3 which is mounted in the center-line of the old entrance hall;
TRANSPORTATION
The Automotive collection is, as one might expect, impressive. Being a truck driver, I was taken by the examples of trucks they had. The way it was done at the dawn of the motorized delivery truck;
A beautifully restored 1952 Federal 45M Tractor and Fruehauf Trailer. (Hat tip to DU'er Lithos for setting me straight on the make and year of the tractor) I regret not taking a photo of the plaque;
There were too many cars to photograph each one, so I just got a few interesting examples.
When racecars looked like racecars!;
A line showing the advancement of the motorcar;
RAILROADS
The Railroad hall includes this enormous 2-6-6-6 "Allegheny" Steam Locomotive, among the largest and most powerful Steam Locomotives ever built;
If you look closely enough or have a way to zoom in, that's me hanging out the Engineers window!;
A model of the locomotive to give you a different perspective;
A short video I made of it. I state it is a "2-6-6-4" Missed the rear truck by 2 wheels!
Henry Ford's private rail car, the "Fairlane";
A Huge wedge style snowplow;
PRESIDENTIAL LIMOUSINES
They have a collection of Presidential Limousines. First in line is the Horse-drawn Brougham used by Theodore Roosevelt;
The FDR "Sunshine Special";
The Eisenhower "Bubbletop";
The Kennedy Car;
Plaque for the above;
The Reagan Car;
ODDS AND ENDS
The at one time ubiquitous Holiday Inn Sign. There are only a handful of these left still operating. An American Icon for decades;
A wall of curious devices, probably used sometime in the Jurassic period! I suspect they were used for something like cracking nuts or training Kookaburras to mate.
A close-up of one corner of the above display. I took all these pictures as well as the videos with a hand held device completely unthinkable when the first of these phones was made.
I hope you enjoyed this as much as I enjoyed putting it together. It is really a superb museum and well worth the visit if you are ever in the Detroit area. I suppose you could spend a day and a half if you were to read every plaque, but I was through in about 4 hours.
Here's their website;
http://www.thehenryford.org/index.aspx
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)People who know about Henry Ford's views regarding certain religious/ethnic minorities will understand.
reddread
(6,896 posts)follows your reasoning.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)The kids were better than that.
reddread
(6,896 posts)than it is to focus on Ford's anti-jewish activities, shameful as they are.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)contained most of the material Hitler based "Mein Kampf" on.
Joe Kennedy Sr., was a fascist jerk(and it's unforgiveable that he had his daughter Rosemary lobotomized-a procedure that left her massively impaired for life)but he doesn't have anything like THAT on his record.
If I sound like a wet blanket here, sorry...but "cool stuff" doesn't make things like this not matter:
reddread
(6,896 posts)the only thing Ford did in comparison was put Americans to work.
Since I wasnt that clear- the implications of Kennedy attitudes towards
NAZI efforts and resisting US involvement in opposition while Ambassador to
Britain or whatever his title?
I begin to wonder about future family policies and relations with Israel down
the road. I best get some reading glasses.
More surprises and historical relevance there, than down the Ford road.
LOVE that DOHC powered Lotus.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)not a political commentary.
I had a photo of a statue of Henry I was going to include, but didn't for fear it would provoke someone.....to say something like you did.
Well, one can always rely on DU'ers to piss on a parade, regardless of how harmless the intent.
I am well aware of Mr. Fords political leanings, his history of anti-semitism as well as his initial support of the Nazi regime.
NONE OF THAT makes one wit of difference to the fact that the museum I visited has an interesting collection.
But hey, thanks for the kick.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)But you can't just erase the history.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)and not making mention of Mr. Ford's politics, is that what you are suggesting I am doing?
Look Mr. Burch, let's just leave it at that, shall we?
You have a great evening.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)good evening.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Great pictures - thank you for posting!
AngryDem001
(684 posts)be to congratulate you on a VERY COOL museum visit or to complement you on the pics, but to bring up political commentary. If I had a nickel for every time that it happened.
That being said, I LOVE the locomotive! That thing is freaking MASSIVE!!!
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)Big machines like that just absolutely fascinate me.
And...well...as far as the 1st reply....water under the bridge.
Thanks for the compliment!
AngryDem001
(684 posts)thundered down the rails. I would love to stand next to the tracks and feel the ground SHAKE as it went by.......
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)Union Pacific Railroad has undertaken the restoration to operating condition, one of the (arguably THE) largest steam locomotives ever built, a 4-8-8-4 "Big Boy", number 4014, that sat on display at the Pomona Fairplex in Pomona, CA since the early 1960's. Earlier this year they moved it from Pomona to their Steam Shops in Cheyenne, WY, a move chronicled on many YouTube videos;
http://www.up.com/aboutup/special_trains/steam/locomotives/4014/index.shtml
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union-Pacific-4014-restoration-BIG-BOY/455623014535432
Dozens of other vids on YouTube, just search "UP 4014 Big Boy"
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)you're not Jewish".
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Funny you should shit on the museum and village when local Jews consider it a point of community pride.
http://cordetroit.com/community/about/
The Greater Detroit community is home to a variety of interesting tourist attractions, including Belle Isle, a 1,000 acre island park that houses the nations oldest fresh water aquarium, a breathtaking conservatory, and many beautiful bike trails. Nearby Dearborn is home to the Henry Ford Museum and Greenfield Village, one of the top ten tourist attractions in the nation. Windsor, Ontario, Canada is less than a mile across the Detroit River.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)Thanks!
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)Kurska
(5,739 posts)Thank you for the post, you get a rec for your efforts.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)Glad you liked it.
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)And you're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)I just happened to watch the other week a PBS American Experience episode on Henry Ford.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)amandabeech
(9,893 posts)I visited there as a child a couple of times.
I really liked looking at Edison's old laboratory.
My family lives on the other side of the state, but I really should get down to the Henry Ford again. It has a great collection, as you note.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)I wanted to visit the village, to be sure, but that would take several hours in itself. I was staying all the way up in Rochester Hills and this was a Monday, so by the time I got done, it was time to go join the afternoon rush hour!
Next time, for sure.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)It's just a good excuse to come back again!
It does take a good chunk of time.
Wash. state Desk Jet
(3,426 posts)for the photo show and your interesting comments.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Seriously? My first car was a 67 Mustang Fastback... You couldn't find a Mustang in there?
Don't hold your breath waitin' on that nog, buddy.
Just kiddin'. Virginia has promised to email me when the run starts.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)On the grounds there is the Automotive Hall of Fame or some such. Didn't get in there either!
They have an incredible collection of vehicles from all the big three as well as numerous other marquis. They have a Bugatti Royale. The have a GM EV1, one of only a small handful to survive. They have Edsels, Thunderbirds, Mustangs, Corvettes, Toyota's, Beetles, A VW Minibus, Duesenburgs, Cords, Locomobiles, Dureas, they have a Tucker - and on and on and on. They have a display of the development of the minivan! The car collection is quite frankly, overwhelming.
I have many regrets for not taking more photos, but I was actually thinking of this thread as I was taking the shots, and I just didn't want it to get out of hand.
Next time, old friend, I'll make a point of it, OK?
And looking forward to the start of the run!
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Thanks for posting.
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(24,365 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)proud of our museum and Greenfield Village,both monuments to this area's importance in the industrial age.Anyone who grew up in this area will tell you that yearly school trips to The Henry Ford and Greenfield Village are a common memory and still very popular.I'm sorry someone took the opportunity to shit on your OP in the very first post,I would advise anyone who is offended by the Ford name to stay away from the Detroit area,because it's everywhere.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)Dearborn - the town that Ford built.
kcr
(15,315 posts)These pics brought back memories
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)I have a permanent souvenir of The Henry Ford in the form of a small scar on my forehead.My parents took us to the museum when I was 4 years old,I was bored and decided to flip on one of those velvet ropes protecting something from crowds and hit the corner of a metal post holding the ropes.Needless to say,it ruined my parents trip to the museum.
navarth
(5,927 posts)Those should not be missed, for any of you that visit The D.
I got to be friends with Lou LoMonaco, the artist that designed the pamphlet for the March On Washington (King's dream speech, etc.) and Lou's design is featured in the HFM civil rights exhibit. It's quite extensive and we took Lou there to see his famous work on display. Quite a day, it was.
The Rosa Parks bus is completely restored (I believe Pres. Obama sat in it the last time he visited Detroit) at great expense to the museum.
Ken Burch and others might find this interesting, in that a HUGE museum started by that asshole Henry Ford has a comprehensive civil rights history exhibit. And this in Dearborn, a Detroit suburb that was once known as a racist hellhole and is now home to the largest arab population outside of the Middle East. No bullshit.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)in fact, that entire display is interesting but not very photogenic, as it is sort of enclosed by walls so with only my iPhone as a camera, getting good shots was difficult in confined spaces.
The entire display that included the bus was really interesting, including artifacts and information on the women's suffrage movement, as well as the civil rights struggles of the African American community.
I must say I missed the chair though.
navarth
(5,927 posts)Got the shots to prove it.
The chair is right there in the exhibit!! I'll bet you walked right by. It's a little creepy. I was looking for the bloodstains. It's behind glass, as big as life.
Next time.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)I probably did walk right by it.
As I mentioned in the OP, one could spend a day and a half, easy. I didn't get there till about 10:30 (it opens at 9:00) and I did have the 30 mile drive back to Rochester Hills at the back of my mind all day, so I admit I hurried through the Civil Rights display. Also it was the first time in about 14 years I had been in Dearborn and wanted to visit a couple other spots in town after the Museum.
Anyway......I'll visit again and take more time.
navarth
(5,927 posts)from Dearborn. OH the humanity. There AIN'T no good way to get there, and once you're there you're in...Rochester Hills...
I hope that doesn't offend you. My brother lives in Rochester Hills. I hate driving out there.
Anyway, I'm waaaay too far off topic.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)I work for a company based here in Jacksonville and I have been up there on and off since late May covering new business. We have a trip a day running down to Atlanta and back, so there is two trucks, each has a two man team. We have been able to hire 3 guys that live in the area but the 4th seat has been difficult to fill, so they have been sending a driver from our yard here up there to cover the open seat. I have been doing that for much of the last 3 1/2 months.
I lived in Dearborn, Inkster, Redford and Farmington Hills when I lived in the area from 89 through 99.
So no, you aren't offending me in the least!
JVS
(61,935 posts)The Henry Ford museum and Greenfield village are fantastic.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)As I said above, I was planning on returning the following week on my next day off, but since the Village is mostly an outdoor kind of deal that requires a lot of walking to see, I decided not to go as the weather had turned, making for a less than pleasant day.
QED
(2,747 posts)The DC-3 is very cool as is the orange tractor-trailer.
I love museums like this!
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)If you like or are interested in aviation and travel the Midwest at all, go and see the National Museum of the US Air Force in Dayton, OH.
Their collection is amazing.
Lithos
(26,403 posts)Pulling the Fruehoff Trailer
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Henry_Ford_Museum_August_2012_41_(1952_Federal_45M_truck_tractor_with_1946_Fruehauf_semi-trailer).jpg
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)You can barely make out the Roadway tractor trailer behind it in that shot. A single axle Ford tractor of the type that Roadway bought several thousand. Another all too common sight on the highways in the 60's and 70's.
Like this one;
It was just positioned in such a way as to not allow a decent shot of it.
safeinOhio
(32,662 posts)The Eisenhower "Bubbletop" when I was a little guy.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)It's huge!
I mean, it is frickin huuuuge! Big ass car, no doubt.
Mnemosyne
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(24,365 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)I know my SO would love to visit this place. I've never even set foot in Michigan, but we just loved Chicago and will be visiting again soon, and we thought about driving through Michigan to the Gerald Ford Presidential Library, so maybe we can plan this, too... He would enjoy this.
Really loved these pics and the info!
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)While Detroit gets a bad rap, Michigan is quite a beautiful state and the Detroit area has much to offer, this museum being just one.
You won't regret including this in your trip, and when you make it, drive safe and enjoy!
RGinNJ
(1,019 posts)in my youth I went their with both my parents and on school field trips. Fantastic place lots of good memories. I still like the trains the best.
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(24,365 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)Thanx so much for sharing them
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(24,365 posts)NBachers
(17,098 posts)I'd take my brother, who's a hopeless gearhead, and could expound for hours on each and every item there.
Thanks for this great photo essay!
Some du'ers need to medicate their brainal hemorrhoids. The pissy comments are unwarranted, and not in the generous spirit in which you shared your trip with us. Thank you.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)You are very kind to say what you did.
And yes, if your brother is indeed a gearhead, he'll love it!
auntAgonist
(17,252 posts)I love going to the Ford and to Greenfield Village.
It's quite a wonderful experience.
Hubby and I went there at Christmas one year (coldest friggin' winter we've had in years) and took the walk through the village at night. What a magical experience it was. So many wonderful memories. We had a terrific time. Dinner afterwards made for a perfect date night for us.
Next time you're stuck up here, let us know. We'd be happy to get together!
thanks again.
aA
kesha
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)and in the ten years I lived there, I never made it over, even though one house I rented I could just about walk to it!
The motel they have been putting me up in is at MI 59 and Crooks road, about 3 miles from the Silverdome (or what's left of it!)
It's possible I'll be back up in a week or so. We shall see. I'll let you know!
mountain grammy
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(24,365 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)There must be one in there somewhere...
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)I remember seeing it race on TV. It was a sled, but it was a cool sled!
MerryBlooms
(11,761 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)Tanuki
(14,918 posts)You had me at the Oscar Meyer Weinermobile, and it just got better and better. Thanks, also, to poster Navarth for mentioning that the Rosa Parks bus exhibit is also there. I saw the moving picture of President Obama sitting in her seat but did not make the connection to the bus being in Detroit. I have never been to Detroit but hope to go in the near future to see the fabulous collection at the art museum and now will include this too.
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(24,365 posts)Bettie
(16,086 posts)They would love to see this collection and Greenfield village.
A lot of historical figures weren't good people by today's standards. One can hope that if they were around today, their views would have evolved as society did, but those who are dead are unable to change.
Few people are all good or all bad. We need to accept shortcomings as part of being human.
And these sites (Museum and Greenfield Village) are amazing learning opportunities. Must plan this for next summer!
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)I'm confident your sons will find it interesting.
Crabby Appleton
(5,231 posts)I need to visit there.
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(24,365 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Like getting a mini visit to the museum!
Thanks!
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)Your photo "When racecars looked like racecars!" nudged a memory and I had to check-yep-you picked an absolute beauty. Jim Clark's 1965 Indianapolis 500 winner. Model 38 Lotus-first rear-engined winner and first non-american winner.
Because we love serendipity, here is a brief Bio of Jim Clark, an inaugural inductee to the Scottish sports hall of fame which seems appropriate on a day when Scotland votes a referendum on Independence....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Clark
Again,thanks for a great post.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)And...well, I am embarrassed to say, I was involved in Indy Car racing for 7 years and it didn't dawn on me that that was Jim's car!
Why? Because at that point of my tour I was sort of hurrying, and I recognized the car but didn't look at the plaque!
I can be a bit of a dummy sometimes!
Yes, as you pointed out, it is one that has remarkable historical significance. Revolutionary, as well - just as much as Don Garlits first rear engined dragster.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)And shame on the posters who simply wanted to piss and moan about how terrible a human being Henry Ford was, as if that makes this museum irrelevant.
My husband was from the Detroit area, so we used to visit his family once or twice a year. We had two sons, and once in the 1990's we got them out to the museum, and another time a couple of years later to the Village. Both things require a full day, maybe more, to do properly.
If I ever get back to that part of the country I should visit again.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)MindPilot
(12,693 posts)I spent the first half of my working life with Ford.
One of men I work with now is an electrical engineer. When he was a student at Michigan U he was on the team that restored the original power generators at the River Rouge plant.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)as I mentioned, I lived in the area all through the 1990's, the first 7 years I was working in the motor racing industry and the latter portion I hauled cars. The company I worked for when I started hauling Open Rack was E&L Transport, who at the time claimed to be the longest continually operating auto transport firm in the country. Their primary customer was the Ford Motor Company, and even during WWII when domestic auto production was halted, they moved bomber fuselages from The Rouge facility to Willow Run, for final assembly.
I have been on the property of the River Rouge Plant dozens of times and have talked to quite a few people knowledgeable of its history. Back when it was first completed it was capable of making every single item needed for a car except the rubber for tires. They even had a leather tannery on site for the seats. (I hold this statement to be true because I am talking about the days before the advent of the AM radio for cars)
I lived in Dearborn when the # 6 Boiler exploded at the power plant, killing 6 workers. It was a stark reminder that heavy industry was right down the block and it always is dangerous work.
cntrygrl
(356 posts)the historic value of his museum. Oh mercy .... very exciting, indeed. Thank you!
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(24,365 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)I think the airplanes were new when I was last there.
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(24,365 posts)delete_bush
(1,712 posts)I've wanted to visit the museum for years now, someday!
By chance, did you see Fuller's Dymaxion House?
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)For those not familiar;
This was the last thing I went through before I left, and I regret not taking a single photo, but it was a very interesting concept and design.
It was indicated that the museum had the only surviving example. Pretty cool.
delete_bush
(1,712 posts)several years. I was living elsewhere at the time but did visit for holidays, etc. I wish that at the time I was more aware of its significance, but beyond being a 'cool place' I had no interest.
The museum is definitely on my list of things to do. It would be strange to see a house with this personal connection in a museum!
clg311
(119 posts)Thanks for the pix. I wanted to buy a 65 GTO after I went there but never did.
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(24,365 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)I wasn't old enough to appreciate it then. I wish I could go back now.
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(24,365 posts)tooeyeten
(1,074 posts)Thanks for sharing your experience and taking time to post all this. Now I want to take a trip to see for myself.
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(24,365 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)We go at least once a month. Aren't we lucky?
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(24,365 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)My son is train-crazy so we spend a lot of our time in the village.