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WTF ...154 (Original Post) pbmus Sep 2014 OP
Since Congress won't do it, the president should be able to raise the minimum wage by executive Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #1
Um... no Bucky Sep 2014 #5
Obviously he can do it when it takes us into an ill-thought out war. Aerows Sep 2014 #6
wrong thread Bucky Sep 2014 #7
Are you implying that I'm a right wing nutjob? Aerows Sep 2014 #8
didn't intend that, didn't imply that Bucky Sep 2014 #11
The current minimum wage Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #2
Has there ever been? n/t OnlinePoker Sep 2014 #3
Sure. jeff47 Sep 2014 #4
Too many people don't even remember Aerows Sep 2014 #9
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #10
2 bedroom apartments here are for 2 incomes, where I live, they're $2K total a month. freshwest Sep 2014 #12

Bucky

(53,928 posts)
5. Um... no
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 04:54 PM
Sep 2014

You don't overthrow the Constitution every time a political dispute doesn't cut our way.

There are some limited things the president can do, however, like raise the wage paid to federal employees. He's done that. But you don't want to live in a country where the executive of the moment has the power to impose laws on every single citizen by fiat.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
6. Obviously he can do it when it takes us into an ill-thought out war.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 04:55 PM
Sep 2014

That seems to be the new normal.

Bucky

(53,928 posts)
7. wrong thread
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 05:11 PM
Sep 2014

That would be an excellent point (in an entirely different conversation) except for the fact that the whole point of his speech was seeking Congressional authorization--meaning that Obama is once again following the Constitutional procedures for his policy changes, despite all rightwing nutjob likes to the contrary.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
8. Are you implying that I'm a right wing nutjob?
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 05:18 PM
Sep 2014

Because declaring and funding war is the purview of Congress, not the Executive office.

Bucky

(53,928 posts)
11. didn't intend that, didn't imply that
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 05:32 PM
Sep 2014

But I repeat he was seeking Congressinonal authorization

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
2. The current minimum wage
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 03:51 PM
Sep 2014

is only enough if you're a teenager who doesn't have to live on your own yet and doesn't have to pay bills.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
4. Sure.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 04:10 PM
Sep 2014

Back during it's peak in the 1960s, 40 hours at minimum wage could support three people in the vast majority of the country.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
9. Too many people don't even remember
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 05:20 PM
Sep 2014

that a household could survive and thrive on the salary of one person working 40 hours a week.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
12. 2 bedroom apartments here are for 2 incomes, where I live, they're $2K total a month.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 05:58 PM
Sep 2014

With our minimum wage now set at $15/hour, the 2-income amount is about $5K a month, considered average here even before the raise. As an average, many makemore, some less dependent on other factors, but alleviated with government help, from expanded Medicaid, housing assistance and food help. Progressives to across the nation are addressing these issues:

The Revolt of the Cities



During the past 20 years, immigrants and young people have transformed the demographics of urban America. Now, they’re transforming its politics and mapping the future of liberalism.


~ Harold Meyerson

Pittsburgh is the perfect urban laboratory,” says Bill Peduto, the city’s new mayor. “We’re small enough to be able to do things and large enough for people to take notice.” More than its size, however, it’s Pittsburgh’s new government—Peduto and the five like-minded progressives who now constitute a majority on its city council—that is turning the city into a laboratory of democracy. In his first hundred days as mayor, Peduto has sought funding to establish universal pre-K education and partnered with a Swedish sustainable-technology fund to build four major developments with low carbon footprints and abundant affordable housing. Even before he became mayor, while still a council member, he steered to passage ordinances that mandated prevailing wages for employees on any project that received city funding and required local hiring for the jobs in the Pittsburgh Penguins’ new arena. He authored the city’s responsible-banking law, which directed government funds to those banks that lent in poor neighborhoods and away from those that didn’t...

Peduto, who is 49 years old, sees improving the lot of Pittsburgh’s new working class as his primary charge. In his city hall office, surrounded by such artifacts as a radio cabinet from the years when the city became home to the world’s first radio station, the new mayor outlined the task before him. “My grandfather, Sam Zarroli, came over in 1921 from Abruzzo,” he said. “He only had a second-grade education, but he was active in the Steel Workers Organizing Committee in its early years, and he made a good life for himself and his family. My challenge in today’s economy is how to get good jobs for people with no PhDs but with a good work ethic and GEDs. How do I get them the same kind of opportunities my grandfather had? All the mayors elected last year are asking this question.”

They are indeed. The mayoral and council class of 2013 is one of the most progressive cohorts of elected officials in recent American history. In one major city after another, newly elected officials are planning to raise the minimum wage or enact ordinances boosting wages in developments that have received city assistance. They are drafting legislation to require inner-city hiring on major projects and foster unionization in hotels, stores, and trucking. They are seeking the funds to establish universal pre-K and other programs for infants and toddlers. They are sketching the layout of new transit lines that will bring jobs and denser development to neighborhoods both poor and middle-class and reduce traffic and pollution in the bargain. They are—if they haven’t done so already—forbidding their police from cooperating with federal immigration authorities in the deportation of undocumented immigrants not convicted of felonies and requiring their police to have video or audio records of their encounters with the public. They are, in short, enacting at the municipal level many of the major policy changes that progressives have found themselves unable to enact at the federal and state levels. They also may be charting a new course for American liberalism.

New York’s Mayor Bill de Blasio has dominated the national press corps’ coverage of the new urban liberalism. His battles to establish citywide pre-K (successful but not funded, as he wished, by a dedicated tax on the wealthy), expand paid sick days (also successful), raise the minimum wage (blocked by the governor and legislature), and reform the police department’s stop-and-frisk policy (by dropping an appeal of a court order) have been extensively chronicled. But de Blasio is just one of a host of mayors elected last year who campaigned and now govern with similar populist agendas. The list also includes Pittsburgh’s Peduto, Minneapolis’s Betsy Hodges, Seattle’s Ed Murray, Boston’s Martin Walsh, Santa Fe’s Javier Gonzales...“We all ran on similar platforms,” Peduto says. “There wasn’t communication among us. It just emerged organically that way. We all faced the reality of growing disparities. The population beneath the poverty line is increasing everywhere. A lot of us were underdogs, populists, reformers, and the public was ready for us.”

Much more at the link:

http://prospect.org/article/revolt-cities

to ProSense.

The thread recieved no attention, but the link details a lot of what is going and not covered by national media:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024859982#post11

Obama also went across the country to push for increasing the minimum wage last year in red states, reported on DU. The blue cities were also supported by White House aides bringing information to use and left as they are also affected by the sequester.

But people must vote for those who want this solution instead of the Koch solution, the default position, in office:

“We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws.”

http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/1014833821#post10

I watched as Democrats spoke to either hostile GOP or empty seats about raising the wage for years in the House and Senate. We need to talk about what is right in seeking prevailing wages and worker rights again. Not what is NOT happening, HOW to MAKE it happen.

The wage cannot be set by the President, he can only do that for federal workers, and has already done so. along with protections for gay workers.

It's very hard to fight off the Koch's nationally and locally. They have money and organization, but those they disregard can make a difference, if they care enough to vote.

The most heartbreaking speech by Sanders was one I posted here. He said he fears the people most affected by these issues will not get out to vote this year. Apathy and the purveyors of FUD always serves the status quo.

I felt, watching Bernie in that speech, that this is his last effort, as he was very nearly begging people to get out and vote.

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