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Oh, the irony... (Original Post) berni_mccoy Dec 2011 OP
what a stupid fuckin moran. he needs to go to college. we can all happily pay seabeyond Dec 2011 #1
Another thought tabatha Dec 2011 #2
He's got a government job and... TlalocW Dec 2011 #3
Obama got the GI Bill expanded plus Pell Grants. joshcryer Dec 2011 #5
not to mention health care from the tax payers. housing. nt seabeyond Dec 2011 #6
Not only that... GoCubsGo Dec 2011 #10
He'll get a preference NavyDem Dec 2011 #12
It's more than a few points now. GoCubsGo Dec 2011 #20
Thanks for that information NavyDem Dec 2011 #22
His paycheck is going on the nation's credit card. KansDem Dec 2011 #4
He means everyone should get a government job? What will we do... Honeycombe8 Dec 2011 #7
There are some completely brainwashed drones out there..... marmar Dec 2011 #8
Here, let me address this in right-wing speak NavyDem Dec 2011 #9
Sounds like he's got it made Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2011 #11
How old is this dude and how long has he been in the military? babylonsister Dec 2011 #13
Don't know how old he is... NavyDem Dec 2011 #16
sounds like he is repeating the stuff recruiters tell them to get them to join the military JI7 Dec 2011 #27
Guaranteed position? LOL Jon Ace Dec 2011 #14
I think this is 'shopped. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #15
So, where's the "sacrifice" part of what you're doing? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #17
maybe he could tell that to all the homeless veterans ejpoeta Dec 2011 #18
The stupid sometimes hurts. JNelson6563 Dec 2011 #19
Socialism Works! sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #21
The stupid! The stupid! It HURTS!!!!! valerief Dec 2011 #23
Somebody told him he's better than us and he believed it. limpyhobbler Dec 2011 #24
Next year he'll get free college tuition and a job. How is this not a handout? Cant trust em Dec 2011 #25
How many of his fellow soldiers came home on stretchers or in body bags? DCKit Dec 2011 #26
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
1. what a stupid fuckin moran. he needs to go to college. we can all happily pay
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:59 PM
Dec 2011

his way. get that kid an education

geeesh

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
3. He's got a government job and...
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:01 PM
Dec 2011

I assume he's using the GI Bill (passed by democrats) and possibly Pell Grants to pay for college.

TlalocW

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
5. Obama got the GI Bill expanded plus Pell Grants.
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:05 PM
Dec 2011

With GI Bill, Stafford Loans and Pell Grants the guy can go to school for the next decade and not have to do an ounce of work. Loans would be big though, so I'd hope he actually gets the education so he can get a job when he's done.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
10. Not only that...
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:12 PM
Dec 2011

When he quits his current job, he gets first dibs at any government job where he meets the basic qualifications--over non-veterans who are more qualified than he is, as will his wife.

NavyDem

(525 posts)
12. He'll get a preference
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:17 PM
Dec 2011

Either 5 point for veteran status, or 10 point for if service-connected-disability. In a case where the civvie that is moderately more qualified for the job, the points may or may not make up the difference.

I know plenty of guys that got out after I retired that thought just like he does, and many of them are still unemployed after 2 years.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
20. It's more than a few points now.
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:40 PM
Dec 2011
http://spousebuzz.com/blog/2011/09/spouse-hiring-preference.html

This also now hold true for veterans. I have been told numerous times by folks in the federal government who are in positions to hire people that, "If a vet applies for the job, it's going to go to him. That's just how it is."

NavyDem

(525 posts)
22. Thanks for that information
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:57 PM
Dec 2011

That appears to be a change since I just retired 2 years ago (January, 2010). This would not apply for myself or my spouse, as I am not dead, or 100% service connected disabled.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. He means everyone should get a government job? What will we do...
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:07 PM
Dec 2011

when the Republicans get that "small government" they want, and fire tens of thousands of govt workers?

Hey, it just occurred to me. As a taxpayer, I, as one of the 99%, pays his salary! That makes me his boss!

NavyDem

(525 posts)
9. Here, let me address this in right-wing speak
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:08 PM
Dec 2011

I have a steady job with a regular paycheck, great benefits and lots of room for promotion (I pulled myself up by my bootstraps, and besides, theres nowhere to go but up from E-1).

Next year, I will be paid to go to college and graduate with guaranteed position making a decent salary (Screw you, I got my education through socialism, and I'm better than every other college grad. Never mind that 25-30% of new college grads are unemployed).

...and I'm not getting any free handouts (except for housing, food, education, clothing, hell every one of my basic needs is met. The paycheck is just a bonus. Again, Screw you, I got mine).

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,411 posts)
11. Sounds like he's got it made
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:14 PM
Dec 2011

"Paid to go to college"? "Guaranteed position?" Those sound kind of like "free handouts" to me. How many people have jobs that offer anywhere near those kind of fantastic benefits?
Of course, what he probably doesn't realize (or care about) is that his next Republican "boss" will probably have him and his co-workers on the front lines of the right-wing's next big "military adventure".

BTW welcome back Berni! Haven't seen you post for awhile!

babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
13. How old is this dude and how long has he been in the military?
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:18 PM
Dec 2011

He doesn't 'have it made' necessarily. When he grows up, he might hate what he does and might 'get out' before he 'has it made'. Then, he'll have to find a job with skills that won't necessarily translate to what's out there.

Oye.

NavyDem

(525 posts)
16. Don't know how old he is...
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:22 PM
Dec 2011

But I can tell by the lack of rank insignia on the collar that he is an E-1. Usually, you make E-2 automatically after 9 months as an E-1.

This kid doesn't have the first clue what he's gonna face when he gets out.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
17. So, where's the "sacrifice" part of what you're doing?
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:27 PM
Dec 2011

After listing all the bennies he says he's "sacrificing"?

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
18. maybe he could tell that to all the homeless veterans
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:35 PM
Dec 2011

or the ones who couldnt' get help with PTSD or brain injuries from Iraq. Or how about the ones that got hurt in one of the wars and then were tossed aside when they werent' useful anymore. Or how about the ashes in the landfill?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
21. Socialism Works!
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:41 PM
Dec 2011

US Military is the largest socialist program in the history of the world.

He's a Socialist!

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
24. Somebody told him he's better than us and he believed it.
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 11:43 PM
Dec 2011

The sign says he "decided that hard work and sacrifice were more important than complaining".

Dude clearly doesn't get it.

It's nothing but hard work and sacrifice down here.

But there's never any pay off.

That's what all the complaining is about.

Time to grow up friend.

Don't assume that if somebody hasn't had the best of luck they must have some character flaw.

BTW somebody said the picture looks photoshopped. I think maybe, can't tell, but the quality seems kind of bad.

Cant trust em

(10,732 posts)
25. Next year he'll get free college tuition and a job. How is this not a handout?
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 11:51 PM
Dec 2011

Guy in military expects a job when he gets out = not a handout

College graduate who expects to get a job when he gets out = handout

What am I missing here?

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
26. How many of his fellow soldiers came home on stretchers or in body bags?
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 01:55 AM
Dec 2011

IF he made it back with mind and body intact, he simply won the NEOCON/Chickenhawk lottery. The rest of them are either dead or damaged for life.

Yay War!!!!

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