Matt Barber and Mat Staver: marriage equality will make straight men run off with gays

[shenmue]

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/09/07/us-radio-hosts-same-sex-marriage-will-cause-straight-men-to-cheat-on-their-wives-with-gays/



Two radio hosts from the Liberty Council insisted that marriage equality will make zillions of straight men gallivant with the gay folk, ruining everybody's marriages.



Do conservative evangelical men think about anything else but this kind of crap?

[Luminous Animal]

1. Yay for the gays!

[BlueJazz]

2. I have noticed that since this marriage equality crap has been in the news, my feelings...

....for the Wal-mart greeter have turned from polite to ah...interested.

(Where in the hell do these people, Matt Barber & Mat Staver come from? Nutsville?)

[Journeyman]

3. Sounds like two Liberty Council radio hosts have a strong secret desire . . .

and the unspoken hope societal changes will permit the opportunity for them to act on their desires without triggering cognitive dissonance, and instead allow them to "blame" their decisions on other, impersonal social forces that "compel" them to act against their own interests.

[Ilsa]

4. Wow. Interesting projection going on.

Kind of makes me wonder if they are self-loathing in-the-closet gays dying for an excuse to break free and blame it on marriage equality.

[Thinkingabout]

5. Are they talking about themselves? Dumb as a post.

[blkmusclmachine]

6. If what 2 dudes do in their bedroom "threatens" your marriage, you didn't have much of a marriage to

begin with...

[dballance]

7. If a husband decides to cheat on his wife w/ other men he's not straight. Never Was.

It's a rather simple conclusion. If a man decides to cheat on his wife by having an affair with another man HE'S NOT FLIPPING STRAIGHT. He as, at best, bi-sexual, and, at worst, a closeted homosexual who needs to seek help coming to terms with his sexual orientation.

Legal same-sex marriage has nothing to do with that man's desire to cheat. Certainly no more than so many actual straight men's desire to cheat on their wives with women.

[delete_bush]

8. I find nothing of the sort in their conversation....

Two radio hosts from the Liberty Council insisted that marriage equality will make zillions of straight men gallivant with the gay folk, ruining everybody's marriages.

Please show me how the headline YOU posted is in any way related to their recorded conversation.

Based on this, I would say that "pinknews" is on par with the National Enquirer.

[beam me up scottie]

9. Is RightWingWatch on par with the National Enquirer too?

Barber And Staver Warn That Gay Marriage Will Make Straight Couples Less Monogamous
Submitted by Kyle Mantyla on Friday, 9/5/2014 10:48 am

For the last two days, Mat Staver and Matt Barber have been discussing the Family Research Council's "Ten Arguments From Social Science Against Same-Sex Marriage" document on their daily "Faith and Freedom" radio show. On today's broadcast, the two cited reason number six - "Same-sex 'marriage' would undercut the norm of sexual fidelity within marriage" - to argue that legalizing gay marriage would somehow result in straight couples becoming less faithful.

Citing quotes from gay writers like Andrew Sullivan and Dan Savage, Barber and Staver argued that gay male couples are more likely to have open relationships, which they then used to bizarrely assert that letting gays get married would ultimately undermine the practice of monogamy within straight marriages.

"You start doing that in a marriage relationship with a man and a woman," Staver said, "and the woman's just not going to do it."

"We know that women serve to domesticate men," Barber added. "That's not an opinion, that's the social science that shows that women ultimately bring men into their role as father, as provider, and protector for the household and they domesticate men and that lends itself toward monogamy."

There are plenty of straight couples, of course, who engage in open relationships, so what any of this has to do with gay marriage is anybody's guess.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/barber-and-staver-warn-gay-marriage-will-make-straight-couples-less-monogamous

[delete_bush]

10. It seems to me to be a very simple task...

I repeat...

Please show me how the headline YOU posted is in any way related to their recorded conversation.

The headline of the OP is "Matt Barber and Mat Staver: marriage equality will make straight men run off with gays"


Again, please show me where they stated anything to validate the headline.

[delete_bush]

11. Is RightWingWatch on par with the National Enquirer too?

I couldn't care less in this case, it has no bearing whatsoever to my post.

The OP referenced a site that ran with not only an inflammatory headline but one that I deem to be entirely false as well. Deal with it.

[beam me up scottie]

13. wtf?

Your hostility is toxic, this is NOT LBN, if you have a problem with op perhaps you should find a more mature way to "deal with it".

[delete_bush]

17. Why don't YOU deal with it.

Again, it's a very simple question.

Let's go through it by the numbers. I have to presume that you're more interested in the truth vs. hyperbole and/or outright falsehoods, correct? Or perhaps not.

The headline, which seems to have informed most of the posts on the thread, indicates that "marriage equality will make straight men run off with gays"

I read the transcript, I listened to the 'tape', and I found nothing of the sort.

We make fun of Faux News all the time for fake/misleading headlines. Why is this any different?

[beam me up scottie]

22. I am so sorry your experience was so traumatic

Maybe you should ask for your money back.

[delete_bush]

27. Well THAT'S a very clever rejoinder,

such profundity.

Of course, you could instead choose to address the original question rather than this worthless dance.

Go for it.

[Heidi]

12. This is General Discussion, not Latest Breaking News.

The LBN title rule does not apply to OPs in GD.

LBN title rule:
Use the EXACT TITLE of the article you are posting, without additional comment.

[beam me up scottie]

15. What the hell is wrong with this place lately?

[Heidi]

16. Beats the heck outta me, beam me up scottie.

I can hardly believe some of the stuff I'm seeing around here lately.

[beam me up scottie]

18. Oy.

I don't know what's worse, this post: "some women will put up with anything for money" in a thread about domestic violence or the fact that the jury let it stand.

[Heidi]

29. Don't I know it.

[Warren DeMontague]

43. Le train has left le rails

personally, I blame the French.

[beam me up scottie]

44. Curse you Pepé Le Pew!

[delete_bush]

19. I know,

fake headlines are so off putting.

[Heidi]

28. You can send an SOP alert on the post that offends you, delete_bush.

Sending an SOP alert allows the DU hosts to deal the issue and saves you the trouble of being rude.

[delete_bush]

32. Why do you presume I'm offended?

I'm merely attempting to engage in a reasonable discussion... you know, where one asks a question and in return receives a response.

I have no idea what an "SOP" refers to, and I think the "alerts" function is extremely abused. I find nothing offensive about free speech, and although I understand the right of a private site to monitor behavior, most of what I see "alerted" on is minor at best.

I seriously doubt that on this site I would ever find the need to "alert" on a poster.

[Heidi]

33. Okie dokie!

Have a good evening.

[Behind the Aegis]

20. You left. It's your fault!

You were the moral center! We were lost!


heehee

[beam me up scottie]

23. I am sure there are a few who wish I would leave again.

Missed you

[Behind the Aegis]

25. I have really missed you too.

Did I tell you I ran off with a straight man back to Oklahoma? Oh wait, I am still with the same man, not straight at all, but we did leave New Orleans.

I find articles like this to be so interesting. The idea that gays will be come equals scares the shit out of so many. If my partner and I were to get married the only people affected are us, and those we invite to the wedding because they got to come up with a hell of gift!

[beam me up scottie]

30. Yes, I remember, how is he?

I loved your house in New Orleans, I hope you traded up.

And the critters?

[Behind the Aegis]

34. He is doing well. Almost 13 years and he ain't left me yet.

Maybe he is a touch slow?

The house here isn't anywhere as charming, but our home in NOLA could fit in our backyard! Things are much cheaper here. OH, and I quit smoking! It's been 5 months!

The puppies are well, we added one to our Krewe. We lost our cat Tony in June. I cried for more than a week straight and still do from time to time.

I am still sick, but going to the doctor tomorrow and demanding we figure this out.

How's about you?!

[beam me up scottie]

37. Nah, I could never leave you either.

Congrats on quitting! Hope your doc can get you on your feet.

I am sorry about Tony.

I'm okay, my family now includes horses which keep me busy.

[Behind the Aegis]

40. You are so sweet.

Horses? Wow. That's a big step. I bet they do keep you busy. My friend here has 5 and they are quite the handful. I'd love to see some pics.

I really am glad you are back.

[delete_bush]

35. The title was, in fact,

the same. It was the title of the original article that I commented on.

Your point?

[Heidi]

36. Never mind, delete_bush.

I wish you a good evening.

[Warren DeMontague]

14. Do we have to run?

Can't we take a cab?

[Behind the Aegis]

21. If you take a cab, you have less to spend on us.

We aren't a cheap people. Plus, if you run, it's good warm up cardio!

[beam me up scottie]

24. I can see you many decades from now...

Chasing cute orderlies around the nursing home in your wheelchair!

[Behind the Aegis]

26. I am too much of a diva. I do not pursue....

...I am pursued!

LOL!

[beam me up scottie]

31. "We aren't a cheap people."

[Warren DeMontague]

38. Yeah, but you guys like to look stylish once you get there. I know that.

Cant show up all sweaty and out if breath! It's like biking to work!

[Behind the Aegis]

39. Don't underestimate sweaty and out of breath!

We don't!

[sakabatou]

41. It's happened in several states an it's not happening

Besides, who the fuck are these two idiots?

[Donald Ian Rankin]

42. I invite them to consider the definition of the word "straight"... N.T.

On edit: or I would do so, had they done so, but it appears that the OP is a complete fabrication.