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Thu Aug 28, 2014, 07:22 AM

 

Big contrasts in how Moscow and Kiev treat their prisoners.

When Russian anti-Kiev volunteers are captured by Ukraine they are charged with crimes, very serious ones relating to "aiding terrorism." When Ukrainian regulars cross the border fleeing combat and capture, they are fed and given medical attention, then allowed safe passage back to their own territory.




Over 60 Ukrainian troops cross into Russia seeking refuge

A group of 62 Ukrainian troops have crossed into Russia’s Rostov Region seeking shelter to save their lives amid an intensified counteroffensive recently launched by anti-Kiev militia in southeastern Ukraine.

“Today, 62 servicemen of the Ukrainian Armed Forces turned to Russian border guards asking to let them into the Russian territory near Russia’s settlement of Shramko, Matveyevo-Kurgansky district, with the aim to save their lives,” the spokesman for the FSB's border guard office in the Rostov Region, Nikolai Sinitsyn, told Itar-Tass news agency on Wednesday. They were allowed to cross and provided with a transit corridor on the principles of humanism, but only after they left their weapons on the Ukrainian side of the border, Sinitsyn added.

This case became the latest in a series of similar incidents where a total of over 500 Ukrainian troops crossed into Russia since July seeking refuge and medical help. Earlier this week, Ukraine released videos showing alleged Russian paratroopers captured on Ukrainian territory. Russian Defense Ministry sources were saying that they probably crossed the border by mistake during a routine patrol of an area which wasn’t manned. President Putin, when asked about the issue said he hoped it won’t be blown out of proportion, since Ukrainian troops regularly cross into Russian territory, sometimes in armored vehicles and were never charged with anything and always allowed to return to Ukraine freely.

Kiev’s renewed accusations of Russian military’s alleged operations on Ukrainian territory are “nothing new,” says Kremlin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov, adding that Russia regularly refutes such reports. Meanwhile Kiev says it has launched a preliminary investigation into the detained men on suspicion of “aiding terrorist groups.”

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Read more at: http://rt.com/news/183240-ukraine-troops-russia-border/

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Response to another_liberal (Original post)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 07:39 AM

1. That comparison is flat-out deceiving and ridiculous.

What charges could Russia file against ukrainian citizens for deeds they committed in Ukraine?

And remember Chechnya? Remember how Russia treated THOSE resistance-fighters?

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Response to DetlefK (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 08:28 AM

2. not to mention kidnapping a

 

Ukrainian pilot, illegally taking her across the border and the putting her on trial.

Of course we know there is no coordination between the separatists and the Russian military. Also the Russian borders are completely secure.

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Response to DetlefK (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 04:04 PM

3. So, you don't see "invasions" of Russian territory by foreign troops as invasions . . .

 

That designation only applies if it's the other way around, right?

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Response to another_liberal (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 04:07 PM

4. In this case I don't trust the source

 

My guess is the story is utter bullshit. I can't believe people are still posting from Russia Today.

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Response to another_liberal (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 04:10 PM

6. did you read the article that you posted?

 

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 04:12 PM

8. Meaning what?

 

Do you have a point, or just offensive questions to ask?

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Response to another_liberal (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 04:14 PM

10. in the article it clearly states that the people coming into Russia, wanted refuge

 

and they had to lay down their weapons on the Ukrainian side. which makes your argument that these men were some sort of invading force, rather ridic.

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 04:18 PM

12. Once they crossed into Russia, they became prisoners.

 

They were then treated quite differently than Russians made prisoners in Ukraine are being treated.

Hence we arrive back at the point of the OP. Does that help clear it up better?

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Response to another_liberal (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 04:20 PM

13. yes, because one is part of an invading force and the other is not. how is that not crystal clear to

 

you?

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Response to another_liberal (Original post)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 04:09 PM

5. LOL. that's because ukrainians crossing into russia, are not trying to tear russia apart.

 

what a ridiculous argument

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 04:14 PM

9. So, the Russian border has to be open to all foreign military personnel?

 

Is that really what you want to suggest?

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Response to another_liberal (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 04:15 PM

11. no, i mean to suggest that Russia letting in a few people seeking refuge

 

is nothing like what Russia is orchestrating in Ukraine. Conflating the two tantamount's to lying.

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Response to another_liberal (Original post)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 04:11 PM

7. Makes one wonder why you post all this pro Russia garbage

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Response to another_liberal (Original post)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 04:21 PM

14. that's not a good source for something like this

yes, that's an understatement.

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