It appears to me that the Israel/Palestine conflict has wound down.

[MineralMan]

It seems to have reached an impasse. Perhaps it's once again time for threads about it to return to the I/P Group. That's what that Group is for, and there doesn't seem to be any current breaking news.

[Ptah]

1. Ask the Administrators

Ask the Administrators

[MineralMan]

2. Thank you for your advice. I'm asking in GD, though.

You're welcome to alert on this post on SOP grounds, though. I believe the discussion is in order in GD.

I wouldn't post it in The DU Lounge, though. GD is where all the posts have been appearing, and I thought I'd bring the question to those who frequent GD.

I do know where ATA is located, though.

[LuvNewcastle]

3. When/If the IDF pull out of Gaza completely, there will be plenty of stories

about the aftermath -- removing debris, finding missing bodies, sending aid to make life there tolerable, just like there is after a massive storm or other disaster. Those kinds of stories, I think, should be posted in GD. Stories about determining who is at fault for the conflict in a historical sense should be sent to I/P, in my opinion.

[MineralMan]

6. Actually, most of the existing threads are about fault, it seems.

[leftstreet]

16. So is the fucking conflict!

You're talking about I/P posts in GD only when there's breaking news?
There's already a forum for breaking news

[MineralMan]

19. No. I'm not in charge. I asked a question.

You can read the extended GD SOP at the top of the GD thread list.

The I/P Group was designed to move the arguing about this away from GD. That's its purpose, as I understand it from explanations by GD Admin. Conflict? Of course there's conflict. There has been since Israel was created. Nothing new there. It's the conflict on DU that concerns me.

[leftstreet]

21. Oh. I thought you were part of Admin n/t

[MineralMan]

22. Why would you have thought that?

If I were, I wouldn't be asking people what they think about the subject. I'd just do what I wanted to make DU what I wanted it to be. I have no authority here over anything at all. So I asked a question. Some people have answered that question. Often Admins here consider the opinion of DUers in their decision making.

[oberliner]

4. What about changing the policy?

Maybe it's time to reconsider that rule and just let posts on this topic stand in GD?

[MineralMan]

7. Not my call. The GD SOP is what it is.

[oberliner]

10. Do you think it's a good idea?

I might suggest it on Ask the Administrators.

[MineralMan]

11. I think it's a good idea to return I/P posts to I/P.

The admins are aware of the situation, I'm quite sure. At some point, the Forum Hosts will begin locking I/P posts, and will no doubt ask Admins when that should start. I'm just bringing it up in GD. The Admins need no prompting.

[Comrade Grumpy]

5. Back to the ghetto, eh? Problem is, the US government is so deeply involved.

That would seem to make the issue fair game for GD.

[MineralMan]

8. The US government has always been involved.

That's not germane to the GD SOP regarding I/P posts, I think. Again, I'm just saying "perhaps."

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. No. This is news that has an impact on America because America is involved.

Not to mention the rest of the world.

[MineralMan]

12. The U.S. has been involved since the 1940s.

We're always involved.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. Which means, to me, that I/P question needn't be quarantined.

And, certainly not now when the questions of war crimes and atrocities are so much in the news.

[MineralMan]

24. Again, it's not my call, which is why I asked the question.

I support neither side, and I'm firm in that non-support. Always have been. The Middle East is a place I believe we should not meddle with.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. I agree that our government shouldn't meddle in regional conflicts. But, we should be able to talk

about them. At least, in the way the conflicts affect our country. Just as we talk about Trade deals in other countries, or gay marriage laws in other countries, or educational standards in other countries.

If people do not wish to involve themselves in the discussions/arguments, they can divorce themselves from the discussions/arguments.

[2banon]

13. This isn't over yet.. it's still quite hot on the burner.. just a brief interlude of "calm"

the end game is yet to be executed.

[MineralMan]

15. End game? There is no end game.

This has been going on since Israel was created. It will continue for the foreseeable future, I'm sure. No end game is in sight.

[2banon]

32. End Game not happening anytime soon, I agree..

should have just made the point that this "interlude of calm" is likely to be quite momentary..

editing to add, though this battle seems to be "over", it ain't over.. yet.

[Garthem]

14. The latest symptom of the disease has been band-aided

But the conflict itself? You gotta be kidding!

[MineralMan]

17. The conflict is why the I/P Group was created.

It stirs up a lot of anger on DU that distracts from the forum's functioning. Especially when the conflict has DUers taking vehement sides in the issue.

[ellenrr]

31. there is anger re other subjects and passion, for things like gun control..

but I see nothing wrong with passion, and I am against ghettoization for any topic.

[aikoaiko]

18. Less than 48 hours into a ceasefire I think this is still big news and GD worthy.

But you are correct that at some point, if the news out of Israel and Palestine stops making the front page, OPs on the topic will likely be locked and referred to the I/P group.

[MineralMan]

20. OK. My post said "perhaps." Perhaps not, too.

I support neither Israel or Hamas in this. Both are wrong at some point.

[Turbineguy]

26. Until

Hamas regroups anyway.

[Maedhros]

27. Hamas is not uniquely at fault for the Gaza situation. [n/t]

[Turbineguy]

28. Correct

But I don't expect them to change a strategy that hasn't worked for 60 years.

[BillZBubb]

29. Nope. There is still much news to come from the massacre in Gaza.

The extent of the devastation in Gaza is still to be documented.

If there is any justice in the world, we'll see both the UN and ICC in action.

[MFM008]

30. are you kidding

are you bored? If 1000 dead people, war and total destruction with 6 billion of cleanup isnt news for a few days what is?

[sabrina 1]

33. No, actually it hasn't wound down, and it's not like to now that the world

is getting involved. But thanks for your 'concern'.

[DanTex]

34. Umm, what? Wound down?

No, I think it should stay in GD. We still need to be reminded of the brutality and war crimes that the US is helping pay for.