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Kurska

(5,739 posts)
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 07:39 PM Aug 2014

The Yazidi currently face real and immediate extermination by ISIS, the world yawns, no one cares.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/04/world/middleeast/iraq.html

The Yazidi are religious and ethnic community of barely a million deeply linked to Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of the Persian empire. They are seen by Sunni religious extremists as devil worshipers and ISIS has made clear they intend to convert or kill any Yazidi under their domain.

The largest Yazidi community centered in Sinjar just fell to ISIS militia. They'll be converted or they'll die. Hopefully most will flee east to be protected by their Kurdish cousins. But even those that make that hostile trek will lose everything.

And no one cares. No one is talking about it.

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The Yazidi currently face real and immediate extermination by ISIS, the world yawns, no one cares. (Original Post) Kurska Aug 2014 OP
I care, but I am not sure I understand what is happening. randys1 Aug 2014 #1
Yazidi is a modern term for the ancient religion of the kurdish people. Kurska Aug 2014 #2
i think most of the world has condemned ISIS , is anyone defending it ? JI7 Aug 2014 #3
I'm sure the sternly worded letter is in the mail. n/t Kurska Aug 2014 #4
do you think the US should send troops into IRaq again ? JI7 Aug 2014 #6
Should we have just watched Bosnia burn? Kurska Aug 2014 #9
Samantha Powers, the US Ambassador to the UN. AngryAmish Aug 2014 #17
That's Samantha Powers Bluenorthwest Aug 2014 #26
editing AngryAmish Aug 2014 #27
A quite important Yazidi community mylye2222 Aug 2014 #5
They are not trendy and there is no one to boycott. hack89 Aug 2014 #7
Yep. mylye2222 Aug 2014 #8
Boycott? We spent a year arming these people in Syria. n/t Kurska Aug 2014 #11
Whoosh. Look up. Nt hack89 Aug 2014 #15
Here's more: sufrommich Aug 2014 #10
"Thousands of Yazidi people have been killed," Crickets from the world community. Kurska Aug 2014 #12
I've been trying to follow the info on twitter, sufrommich Aug 2014 #14
R U saying people are hypocrites because Israel is being criticized for their extermination notadmblnd Aug 2014 #13
This thread isn't about Israel or Palestine Kurska Aug 2014 #16
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #18
I've closely followed kurdish issues for a decade, go pound sand. Kurska Aug 2014 #19
But your claim that no one cares is not true. notadmblnd Aug 2014 #21
"So that is your objective? " Kurska Aug 2014 #25
Oh you're angry alright notadmblnd Aug 2014 #28
The Yazidi and Kurds aren't even Arabs Kurska Aug 2014 #30
Why do you say he doesnt care about these people? Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #20
BS notadmblnd Aug 2014 #22
OK....thanks. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #23
... NuclearDem Aug 2014 #29
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #31
This is getting aggressively off topic Kurska Aug 2014 #34
Jury Results Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #37
UN warns of 'humanitarian tragedy' as ISIS seizes Sinjar JI7 Aug 2014 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Aerows Aug 2014 #38
Sarcastic post thanking Bush. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2014 #32
Come now, you haven't really done your part until you retweeted something. n/t Kurska Aug 2014 #36
It is too painful to keep reading about this stuff. I have taken to just watching movies... kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #33
Keep strong, for every ounce of evil there is some good in the world. Kurska Aug 2014 #35
The Kurds are striking back starroute Aug 2014 #39

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. I care, but I am not sure I understand what is happening.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 07:41 PM
Aug 2014

As to most Americans, they care FAR more about whether or not the Kardashian fools are getting married or their hair done, I suppose.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
2. Yazidi is a modern term for the ancient religion of the kurdish people.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 07:45 PM
Aug 2014

Most kurds converted to Islam in the 10th century. Many still held out and they have survived a thousand years of persecution by their Muslim neighbors. They marry within their faith and over a thousand years have come to be considered a distinct ethnic and religious group.

And they are now doomed to die or flee while the world apathetically watches.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
9. Should we have just watched Bosnia burn?
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 07:54 PM
Aug 2014

Did we do the right thing when we turned a blind eye to Rwanda?

Did the people in Darfur deserve to die?

At minimum we should be arming the Kurds, right now.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
17. Samantha Powers, the US Ambassador to the UN.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 08:04 PM
Aug 2014

A year ago she wanted the US to join the Syrian war on ISIS side.

I misstated her name earlier. Stop The Insanity.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
5. A quite important Yazidi community
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 07:50 PM
Aug 2014

Is also living in Armenia and Georgua .former USSR. THERE too they are harassed and discriminante both by authorities and mafias wich racketed them.A lot of those famikies flee to Western europe to seek asylum they rarely are granted.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
10. Here's more:
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 07:56 PM
Aug 2014

Tens of thousands from Iraq's minority Yazidi community have fled their homes after Sunni militants captured their towns in the latest offensive to expand the territory of their self-styled caliphate.

As Kurdish fighters struggled to hold back the onslaught of the Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS) militants on Iraq's north, some 40,000 Yazidis, a minority religious sect, fled the northern towns of Sinjar and Zumar, said Jawhar Ali Begg, a spokesman for the community.

"Thousands of Yazidi people have been killed," he said. The militant group gave the Yazidis, who follow an ancient religion with links to Zoroastrianism, an ultimatum to convert to Islam, pay a tax or face death, Begg added.

Iraq is facing its worst crisis since the 2006 civil war when the Islamic State group, an Al-Qaeda breakaway faction with a strong presence in Syria, captured large swath of land in the country's west and north in a lightning offensive earlier this year.

The United Nations said last month that more than 500,000 people have been displaced by the violence since June, bringing the total this year to 1.4 million, including more than 230,000 Syrian refugees. The group drove ethnic and religious minorities out of Iraq's second-largest city, Mosul, and attacked mosques and shrines, claiming they contradicted strict Islamic teachings.

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2014/Aug-04/265985-iraqs-yazidi-minority-flees-amid-militant-threat.ashx#ixzz39TFVeLSK
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)


Very frightening.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
14. I've been trying to follow the info on twitter,
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 08:01 PM
Aug 2014

unfortunately a lot of info is in arabic. But yeah, I hear you.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
13. R U saying people are hypocrites because Israel is being criticized for their extermination
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 07:59 PM
Aug 2014

of Palestinians and ISis not? From the article you posted:

"A State Department spokeswoman, Jen Psaki, said Sunday that ISIS posed “a dire threat to all Iraqis, the entire region and the international community” and that the United States would continue to seek ways to support the Iraqi security forces and the Kurdish pesh merga. "


So I would not say no one cares. Another point I would like to make is that at least these people have the ability to flee if necessary. Where are the Palestinians supposed to go?

I also need to say that I don't think it is ok to target any group of people for extermination.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
16. This thread isn't about Israel or Palestine
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 08:04 PM
Aug 2014

Shocking I know, but sometimes things happen in the middle east that has absolutely nothing to do with either Jews or Palestinians.

Response to Kurska (Reply #16)

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
19. I've closely followed kurdish issues for a decade, go pound sand.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 08:06 PM
Aug 2014

My point is there is a fucking genocide going on and most of the planet couldn't give half a shit. That is my point.

I'm sorry my mentioning this genocide might have momentarily distracted from what you apparently deem to be the only important geopolitical issue in the world at the moment.

If world had an ounce of humanity in them the Kurds would have been carved a homeland from Iraq after Saddam Hussein's barbarity against them, but I've long ago stopped expecting that from the world.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
21. But your claim that no one cares is not true.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 08:11 PM
Aug 2014

So that is your objective? Diversion? Can't shut down discussion by calling critics names, so you're going to point out other atrocities and make accusations that no one cares?

BTW, what exactly does that mean? Pound sand?

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
25. "So that is your objective? "
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 08:15 PM
Aug 2014

To vent my anger about the people ignoring the suffering of the Kurdish people AGAIN.

Response to Kurska (Reply #16)

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
34. This is getting aggressively off topic
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 08:30 PM
Aug 2014

There are currently a bunch of threads about Israel and Palestine. Why do you feel the need to interject that situation into this thread, while insulting me?

 

Michigander_Life

(549 posts)
37. Jury Results
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 10:18 PM
Aug 2014

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
On Mon Aug 4, 2014, 07:27 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I call bullcrap on your concern...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5337302

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

A previous post in this thread was hidden for the exact same thing. No one mentioned Israel at all before people started coming into the thread and insulting people's concerns about genocide as fake.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Aug 4, 2014, 07:36 PM, and the Jury voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.

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Explanation: I absolutely agree with this post.
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Explanation: We can be horrified by more than one atrocity at a time. a great deal of attention has been paid to the horrific acts the Israelis have been engaged in. this thread is an attempt to discuss ISIS ... no need to derail it
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kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
33. It is too painful to keep reading about this stuff. I have taken to just watching movies...
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 08:28 PM
Aug 2014

reality is becoming too hard to bear. It is really hard when it appears that our own nation and our own President is siding with the most evil and blood-thirsty venom on the earth. The feeling of helplessness is almost too much to bear. I think I will given even DU a rest. Peace out.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
39. The Kurds are striking back
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 12:37 AM
Aug 2014
http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/040820144

Kurdish Peshmerga forces have entered Shangal, said military officials, and they have cornered militants of the Islamic State in parts of the town.

Rudaw reporter in the area said that units from the 10,000-strong Peshmarga force who had encircled the town earlier in the day are now in the town center and try to rout the Islamic militants. ...

Meanwhile, a large Peshmerga forces have made their way to the Shangal mountainside where thousands of Yezidi families have taken shelter. ...

“We decided to go on the offensive and fight the terrorists to the last breath,” said Kurdistan Region President Massoud Barzani Monday afternoon. “We have ordered the Peshmerga to attack the terrorists and enemies of Kurdistan with all their power.” Barzani said that the Kurdish forces “will not relinquish an inch of Kurdistan and we will defend our dear Yezidi brothers and sisters.”
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