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Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:39 AM Jul 2014

Feiglin, Netanyahu and Israel's revolutionary moment

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/international/213793-feiglin-netanyahu-and-israels-revolutionary-moment

July 30, 2014, 12:00 pm
Feiglin, Netanyahu and Israel's revolutionary moment
By Bernie Quigley, contributor

"In Israel, there was investment and building but no revolution," I wrote here in 2010 in an essay titled "Israel before the revolution." "There was no Nelson at Trafalgar to mark a day. No Washington at Yorktown, no Crockett at the Alamo. No David. But I have felt for a long time that it is just ahead for Israel and its definitive moment will come in the next 20 years, and possibly very soon."

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"This year, with God's help," Moshe Feiglin, a native-born Israeli leader, wrote in 2010, "there will be more Jews in Israel than anywhere else in the world. This is a sea change in the state of the Jewish nation and the first time since the First Temple era that the majority of Jews has resided in Israel. This summer we start the countdown to the end of the exile."

To understand what is happening in Israel today, it may be instructive to review the rise in influence of Knesset member Moshe Feiglin. He may be considered "the key" — the native folk figure who speaks to and inspires the Jewish heart, the folkloric warrior who calls Israel to its destiny. The Feiglin spirit subliminally inspires much of Israel today and appears to have inspired the passions of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

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Israel today demands dominion and will take it, with existential disregard for Britain, America, nihilist Europe, the antiquated UN or the decadent and anti-Semitic scholasticism of American and world universities. This is the first day in a "rite of entry" to a world awakening; a world begun by Jews and a world awakened by Jews once again.



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Feiglin, Netanyahu and Israel's revolutionary moment (Original Post) Karmadillo Jul 2014 OP
Well, it's "revolting," all right... regnaD kciN Jul 2014 #1
Hmm... ReRe Jul 2014 #2
I've had a feeling for a while that the Israelis are no longer real Jews starroute Jul 2014 #3
Moshe Feiglin: Unethical to Endanger IDF Soldiers in order to Protect Gazans Karmadillo Jul 2014 #4
Give this man the Iron Cross! Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #5

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
2. Hmm...
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 05:03 AM
Jul 2014

... that last paragraph looks like some sort of MO. I don't much care for the word "dominion," or

"rite of entry to a world awakening"; a world begun by Jews and a world awakened by Jews

once again."


I give. Somebody explain this mumbo-jumbo to me. Sounds pretty presumptuous, at best, i.e. "a world begun by Jews?" Sounds pretty "fundamentalist" to me.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
3. I've had a feeling for a while that the Israelis are no longer real Jews
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:05 AM
Jul 2014

When you try to turn Judaism into just one more nationality, you lose something vital -- and this article seems to confirm it.

And there's something else. When I was a kid in the 1950s, there was an expectation that great things would come out of Israel. European and American Jews had been so culturally creative, surely a Jewish-majority society would produce an outpouring of marvelous things -- great art, great music, great literature.

Only it never happened.

I could suggest a couple of theories. It could be that creativity grows out of the interface between different cultures, and that when you have a society that's all one thing, it becomes less creative. Or maybe founding a nation with traumatized Holocaust survivors and then keeping that nation at war with its neighbors for the next 70 years drains all the creative openness out of them.

But either way, from my point of view, Israel looks like a black hole where Jews go to lose their Jewishness. And for that reason, I find the point of view expressed in this article truly terrifying.

Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
4. Moshe Feiglin: Unethical to Endanger IDF Soldiers in order to Protect Gazans
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 12:05 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/columns/moshe-feiglin/moshe-feiglin-unethical-to-endanger-idf-soldiers-in-order-to-protect-gazans/2014/07/24/

Moshe Feiglin: Unethical to Endanger IDF Soldiers in order to Protect Gazans
By: Moshe Feiglin
Published: July 24th, 2014
Latest update: July 25th, 2014

The residents of Gaza were not occupied by the Hamas; they voted for the terror organization in democratic elections, by a huge majority, by virtue of its uncompromising struggle against Israel.

For this reason, the separation between the armed Hamas terrorists and those ‘not involved’ or ‘innocents’ is false. The Gazans are now paying for the choices they have made.

It is enough for the IDF to make one announcement for residents to evacuate a given area, giving them reasonable time to get away.

Any other measure taken to protect the population against the results of its choices – at the expense of the IDF soldiers – is unethical.
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