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Wed Jul 30, 2014, 05:25 PM

 

I'm over 60 and I have never seen such racism

since the sixties. it is just mind blowing how Obama just blew the roof of of the house with his election. It is absolutely crazy and beyond all belief.

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Reply I'm over 60 and I have never seen such racism (Original post)
wilt the stilt Jul 2014 OP
surrealAmerican Jul 2014 #1
sadoldgirl Jul 2014 #2
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #51
uponit7771 Jul 2014 #57
napkinz Jul 2014 #3
gwheezie Jul 2014 #4
whathehell Jul 2014 #39
jmondine Jul 2014 #50
Boomerproud Jul 2014 #5
awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #21
bhikkhu Jul 2014 #35
BillZBubb Jul 2014 #6
hollysmom Jul 2014 #7
onehandle Jul 2014 #8
Glitterati Jul 2014 #9
maindawg Jul 2014 #32
Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #60
barbtries Jul 2014 #10
appleannie1 Jul 2014 #11
sadoldgirl Jul 2014 #12
RKP5637 Jul 2014 #59
TNNurse Jul 2014 #13
IronLionZion Jul 2014 #26
KatyMan Jul 2014 #46
uponit7771 Jul 2014 #58
world wide wally Jul 2014 #14
freshwest Jul 2014 #54
toddwv Jul 2014 #15
Shankapotomus Jul 2014 #16
blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #17
Hortensis Jul 2014 #24
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2014 #18
napi21 Jul 2014 #34
Hortensis Jul 2014 #49
Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #19
Hoyt Jul 2014 #28
ieoeja Jul 2014 #47
ColesCountyDem Jul 2014 #20
savalez Jul 2014 #22
LittleGirl Jul 2014 #23
savalez Jul 2014 #25
Hoyt Jul 2014 #27
gelsdorf Jul 2014 #29
Efilroft Sul Jul 2014 #45
easychoice Jul 2014 #30
NastyRiffraff Jul 2014 #31
Skidmore Jul 2014 #33
mdbl Jul 2014 #38
freshwest Jul 2014 #53
skydive forever Jul 2014 #36
japple Jul 2014 #37
calimary Jul 2014 #40
heaven05 Jul 2014 #41
TBF Jul 2014 #42
dembotoz Jul 2014 #43
steve2470 Jul 2014 #44
vssmith Jul 2014 #48
Wellstone ruled Jul 2014 #52
RKP5637 Jul 2014 #55
johnlucas Jul 2014 #56
DrewFlorida Jul 2014 #61
redstatebluegirl Jul 2014 #62

Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 05:28 PM

1. It's always been there, but sometimes it hides out in a few ...

... lesser televised portions of the country.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 05:29 PM

2. Sorry, but I think it was hidden very carefully.

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Response to sadoldgirl (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 12:29 PM

51. Yup.

What we're seeing is simply the racism that was already there being let out in the open.

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Response to sadoldgirl (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:47 PM

57. +1

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 05:29 PM

3. ...







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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 05:34 PM

4. I didn't figure it getting this bad

In 08 I thought the next president would be a white woman or black man and knew the lunatic fringe would go nuts if either Obama or Hillary was elected but Obama sure bought the racists out from the swamp.

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Response to gwheezie (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:58 PM

39. Me either...I thought Obama's election signaled a real change, and

I was really shocked when I started seeing and hearing things I
hadn't heard since I was a kid in the early Sixties.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #39)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 12:28 PM

50. It did signal a real change...

The way I see it, the racism was festering beneath the surface. Obama's election exposed it, and now we are experiencing the pain of lancing the wound.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 05:34 PM

5. Yes, the scab was removed in 2008.

It had/has a very nasty sore underneath it.

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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:54 PM

21. +1000. nt

 

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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:49 PM

35. That was my impression as well

Even on hate radio (which I wound up listening to because its popular here, and my job involves test-driving a lot of other people's cars) there wasn't much race-based commentary. Starting in 2008 it became constant. Even when it wasn't explicitly negative people were always identified by their race, and it became front and center in the conversations. At work I'd hope the day would go by without some racist joke, whether from my boss or co-workers or customers, but every day it wormed its way in one way or another. I wound up quitting my job for a better one, and that was definitely part of the reason.

The worst was when older customers would start conversations, and so often as soon as they were a bit comfortable they'd start in on the n-word jokes...I'm so glad I haven't heard one in 4 months now at my new place.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 05:42 PM

6. Anything in particular that spurred this post? Or just a general observation?

I do think the racists are getting a little more bold lately but they still get to it indirectly for the most part. The code words are always out there.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 05:46 PM

7. I am over 60 and I saw people passing for white to get into apartments and to get jobs n NYC.

so it is just back to the bad old days. Yes, it was legal to discriminate on jobs and housing in NYC in the late 60's.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 05:47 PM

8. I'm a Georgia native, and I have never witnessed this level of racist hatred.

The GOPNRAteahadists are domestic terrorists.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 05:47 PM

9. I agree, but.....

 

what is astonishing, is that the racists can't decide who they hate more - the black folks or the brown folks.

Until Obama was elected, we had made it inappropriate to be overtly racist and they found it necessary to recast the overt racism against Hispanics, at least overtly.

Now, they truly believe they can openly and vehemently display their racism against both.

I was a child in the late 60s, lived in an all white town where the cops sent home the protestors and then burned down the home sold to a black couple.

This is much, much worse that that.

And frightening.

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Response to Glitterati (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:43 PM

32. It used to be , just the way it is.

 

Now, the dark skinned people think they are equal. How quaint.

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Response to Glitterati (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:56 PM

60. Trust me: the darker you are, the more they hate. And they'll pit the brown people

 

against the black people. But don't get it twisted; they'll always hate black people the most!

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 05:57 PM

10. and a sad commentary

on the people in this country. sigh.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:06 PM

11. The only thing different is the scab is off and the infection of racism is able to be be seen.

The racism has always been here. It is just more overt now.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:13 PM

12. Maybe there is some hope

because the young generation does not seem to have that much trouble with different races. Btw, I think we would have found an equal amount of hatred had Obama been of Asian descent.

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Response to sadoldgirl (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:49 PM

59. Yep! Agree! n/t

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:21 PM

13. Wait until we elect a woman.

It will also be ugly. Apparently it is now politically correct in some circles to show what an outrageous, ignorant asshole you really are.
I do wonder who was keeping them quiet before. The Republican party no longer has any control over it's dark underbelly of hate and repression. Of course, it is now acceptable in some churches too and not just those Westboro....I cannot think of a word bad enough to describe them.

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Response to TNNurse (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:11 PM

26. Oh yeah, I think there will be a lot of overlap

The same sorts of people will be spreading the same sort of bullshit and fearmongering except with gender stereotypes instead of racial. They'll probably say she's having affairs with minority women, and cover it all including the lesbian angle.

It will be nasty but this country needs to go through it sooner than later. Islamic and developing countries have had women leaders already, even with their finger on the bomb, and even had them shot dead, and the world didn't end yet. Hillary (or Warren) can handle it like a boss.

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Response to TNNurse (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 08:38 AM

46. They're practicing on Wendy Davis

(running for gov in TX). All kinds of comments about being a gold digger, dumb blond, a slut...all kinds of horrible things.

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Response to TNNurse (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:47 PM

58. AMEN AND AMEN!!!

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:32 PM

14. Likewise with me, but I did see some deplorable racism when I was younger. The difference

then was that it was trending in a more positive direction and now it is getting so overblown for the worse.
But then again, I grew up in a place called "America" and it was NOT a code word for "Land of small minded ignorance in the name of patriotism".

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:06 PM

54. +1

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:41 PM

15. Meh...

I've been on discussion forums for a long time and gravitate towards ones where I can butt heads against people with views that oppose my own.


It's always been out there and the anonymity of the internet makes it that much more blatant so I knew how the flood gates would be opened with the slightest nudge.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:44 PM

16. The lesson is: We could make the Right self-destruct

if we can keep electing non-white or women presidents.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:45 PM

17. Scratch the surface of the GOP, and all matter of evilness oozes out. Against blacks. Against women.

 

Against the working poor. Against gay American citizens. Against freedom from religion. Against a living wage. Against sensible gun laws. Against clean water. Against safe food. Against non-polluted air. Against healthy living. Against health insurance for the most needy. Against good sense. Against logic. Against thought. Against reason. Everything in their Party Plank is "Against" something. And militantly proud of their backwardishness. That's today's GOP.

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #17)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:04 PM

24. Against, against--so true! So many sensible conservatives have left what the GOP has become.

Unfortunately, they mostly either go passive or, more often, they end up voting GOP tickets anyway. Both ways work to elect reactionary right candidates, so those who won't take a stand against extremism might as well not have left at all.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:50 PM

18. It never went away, but

following the civil rights movement and the legislation that came out of the '60s it became less socially and politically acceptable to be overtly racist - at least, for awhile. But the Internet has enabled the racists to come out of their caves and communicate with each other - and the fact that they were able to find support for their views from other like-minded people has supported and, to them, validated their racism. Throw in the grave insult of a black president and their nasty stew pot has started to bubble over again. So-called "mainstream" GOPers are afraid to repudiate the racism of the teabagger fringe because the true believers are the ones who get out the vote. So now the GOPers are stuck with the monster they didn't exactly create - it was always hiding in the cellar - but have allowed to run amok in public because they are too afraid to nail it with a tranquilizer dart and shove it back under the floorboards.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #18)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:47 PM

34. I think they DID creat this moster. Rove and co. wanted to

draw out the fringe to help generate the ragae that sends the GOPers to the polls. He failed in 2008, so he fanned the flames and succeeded in 2010 with the congress, BUT lost the Presidency. Rove was devastated...you could see it buy his reaction ON TV when FOX finally announced that Obama had won a second term. After he sort of recovered, he decided the "Tea Baggers" were destroying his PArty, but now he's helpless to put them back in their cage.

Personally, I'm thrilled. It helps the Dems put the whole Pub Party in a hole they will never be able to rawl out of.

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Response to napi21 (Reply #34)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 11:55 AM

49. You're both right, of course. The Greatly-Shrunk Old Party has lost most of

its sensible conservatives, condensing into mostly a passionate group of white supremacist and social/religious extremist voters. Certainly those diehard hangerson have no interest in integrating.

Charles Krauthammer's analysis of the 2012 presidential loss, and its promise of a future of the same, was so telling. The GOP did not need to expand to include Hispanic conservatives but just to throw them a bone on immigration -- i.e., be less mean to undocumented immigrants. Maybe he confuses American citizens who are Hispanic with undocumenteds, as many in today's GOP so determinedly do, maybe not. It was totally clear he felt they should kept outside, with a little pat on the head now and then as needed to keep them from actually flocking to the polls in protest.

Embrace black conservatives? 100% dismissed with, "America doesn't need two Democratic Parties."

The funny thing to me isn't how much bigotry is expressed on line these days -- that always happened after the second or third drink anyway, but that they are so unwilling to admit to it. Their limiting their attacks on Obama to not being born here (because they are not bigots!) was a rather terrific joke, when they felt they could get away with murder, drug trafficking, theft, vandalism, rape (of a white woman, no less), and every other Black Menace cliche for Clinton.

Now, if they only realized that being Republican is no longer considered respectable.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:50 PM

19. There was an actual KKK lynching in 1981.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Donald

You don't consider that worse than the racism directed at President Obama?

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #19)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:24 PM

28. There have been similar "lynchings," recently -- Zimmerman, Michael Dunn, etc.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:28 AM

47. Over racism by one of the two most powerful political parties that run our country.

 


Versus a single murder by a small group of radical terrorists.


I will go with the former as worse. There will always be murderers among us. That will not destroy the fabric of society. The former is trying like hell to do just that.


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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:54 PM

20. I'm bumping 60 myself, and I agree 100%!

It's as though President Obama's election in 2008 lanced a boil, and the hatred just spewed everywhere!

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:04 PM

23. My mid-20s cousin posted this on facebook yesterday

Her husband is Navy and they are being reassigned to Maryland and decided to rent their house in Jacksonville FL to a couple instead of trying to sell it. The lady of the couple spoke to my cousin yesterday and said that the first house they were going to rent was really nice. They submitted the application and got approved so she sent her son over to get a good look at it because she was out of town for a couple of weeks. The son told her that she needed to find another house to rent because this previous owners did not rent to BLACK people.

My cousin who grew up in northern Alabama was left speechless. She couldn't believe in 2014 that racism was that bad. She was so shocked that discrimination was still happening and so openly. I told her it was illegal but those owners were selecting the renters and would not hire a management company to manage it. I guess they can get away with it until they get reported.

I don't know if the renters will report those people or not.

Edit: This couple is retired with grown children and grandchildren.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:11 PM

25. I am enjoying it.

Really, I am. This has been a great 6 years and I look forward to two more. I like watching racist cry babies make asses out of themselves. It's all perspective. They were always there, they just came out of the woodwork under the guise of the Tea Party whose entire platform is based on a fear of shit that is NOT actually happening. The only thing that did happen is a black person became president. They are a dying breed though. We will win.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:22 PM

27. That's the reason so many right/white wingers are arming up and promoting hatred.

It will just get worse.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:24 PM

29. Talked to my Mom and Sister today

they were throwing the 'n' word out like they were getting paid per use. I was appalled, I knew they were that way but, WOW!!!!
"That's your 'n' President for you"

I'm 58, yeah It's gotten worse, I'm sad to say (Pittsburgh, Pa btw)

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Response to gelsdorf (Reply #29)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 08:26 AM

45. I live in Pittsburgh, too, and in many ways it is…

…the northernmost southern city, that is, if you consider "Pittsburgh" to include all the counties surrounding Allegheny. The city proper is not all that racist, but the outlying areas, wow, they have been and probably always will be racist. Even when southwestern Pennsylvania had most of its counties voting blue a generation ago, whites and blacks never got along. The decline of unions here coupled with the influence of talk radio, Fox News, and the rise of the Tea Party brought out the true colors (heh) of many people. And, yes, I know of many people (and in my family, no less) who must be paid by the racist slur, too.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:39 PM

30. the election activated the sleeper cells

I was amazed...

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:39 PM

31. I'm over 60 too,and it's worse than the sixties

Racism was the norm then, and accepted. Didn't make it right, but there it is. Now, you don't say certain things in polite society, racism is officially frowned on, even by many Republicans. There is NO EXCUSE for anyone to say the things you hear.

We have a black President. And some people are in a rage about that.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:46 PM

33. I agree.

It became shameful for a long time to openly exhibit hateful behavior or engage in hate speech. It has become permissible again and we need to turn it into shameful again.

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #33)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:57 PM

38. Agreed!

The KKK attitudes out there need to be marginalized and locked back into a closet until they behave. Obviously, they have to be forced to do this. Those on this thread that think it's funny or enjoy the weirdness don't understand how much it is hurting people. It has to be shamed and stopped, again!!

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Response to mdbl (Reply #38)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:06 PM

53. Plus a million. Hard to do with the media as it is, though. Life was better when it *was* liberal.

In the meantime, the way we live our lives is the only example we can give to fellow Americans.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:50 PM

36. Remember, not all republicans are racists

but all racists are republican.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:50 PM

37. Same there, wilt. I am just amazed at the amount of racism the President is subjected to

on a daily basis. It is overwhelming to me. He is a brave and courageous man and I am so grateful that he continues to serve as President of our country after all of the assaults he is subjected to on a daily basis. I don't agree with everything he does. He is not as progressive as I had hoped he would be, but I am so grateful that he is where he is at this time.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 08:10 PM

40. Yeah, no kidding.

I'm 61. I've never seen it this bad, either. I don't remember it ever being this bad.

His worst crime is presidentin' while black. His second-worst crime is presidentin' while not a republi-CON. And that's the long and the short of it. (See "World's Biggest Entitlement Program" - as in the GOP's presumption that it is the GOP ALONE that is entitled to rule.)

Embarrassing, isn't it?

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 08:28 PM

41. American racial hate always has been right under the surface, culturally

 

just because of the systemic and institutionalized nature of that hate. Yet as long as a white male held the top spot, the fear of brown and darker skinned males was held in abeyance. Once white privilege was threatened by a brown skin man in the top spot the cover was off and the bundy's and his sympathizers in the hinterlands and elsewhere, on hate radio and television news, have had a fucking field day demonizing blacks from Obama all the way down to Trayvon Martin. The "haters" were/are surreptitiously enabled by the racist RW clowns running rampant in the halls of power at local and national levels with little or no push back from our Party.......call me a liar? America has always been right on the edge of all the hate we've seen for the last 6 years. The racist really had not had a focus for that hate until Obama moved into the the POTUS position and put white supremacy in question. The systemic hate based on race will always be with us. And yes I agree, your perceptions are correct. The racist hate is much more in the open and embraced even as a merit badge of........whatever... by the......bundy, o'reilly, issa, cruz, palin, brewer and rushieboy bunch of creeps. I'm not at all surprised and expected this ignorance and stupidity on the assumption of power by Barack Obama.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 07:56 AM

42. I'm middle aged and grew up in the midwest -

it was pretty homogenous and you would more commonly hear slurs against Poles, Germans or Jews - depending upon who was speaking. I sort of had this view that slavery was over and we were all treated equally. But I also didn't really know many Americans who happened to be black. Electing Obama and watching him try to govern has been very eye-opening. As a socialist I view him as pretty conservative, and you'd think that would make him more appealing to repugs. But they are clearly blinded by their racism - he constantly makes overtures to them in terms of policy (in my view) and they still reject them. I am embarrassed for them because it is so painfully obvious that they cannot accept a non-white as president.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 08:01 AM

43. being raciist is the new cool

also over 60

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 08:06 AM

44. a tad OT but MrScorpio goes hammer and tongs after 'em on Discussionist

The guy deserves mad props.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 11:39 AM

48. Number 42

Obama is the Jackie Robinson of politics

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 12:52 PM

52. Wake up white people.

We are the new MINORITY!!!!!! Get use to it,it is not going to change.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:34 PM

55. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I had thought we as a country had gotten past the sixties. I've

been stunned at how many racists, haters and bigots there are in this country. When Obama was elected I said to myself, the country has really come together ... but then the racists, haters and bigots started rearing their ugly hateful heads, and then IMO hate radio, hate TV and hate Internet emboldened them and egged them on for more and more ... and often IMO for $$$$$.

A lot of people in this country make big bucks off of racism, hatred and bigotry. It's disgusting ... and they are always looking for new targets too. They always have LGBT to kick around, and now they have the children they love to kick around. Elements of this country are so damn disgusting.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:37 PM

56. Why are you surprised? What did you think was gonna happen?

 

I break down the history of why that is in this piece I called A long story about the Southern Strategy.
Your answers are in there.
You should not be surprised.
This is at the core of the American system.

John Lucas

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:59 PM

61. All of those racist cockroaches were running around freely in the dark, until Obama's election.....

shined a light on the subject, suddenly we can see that America is crawling with racist scumbags.
It's good to have them out in the open, even if the sight and sound of them is disgusting.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:46 PM

62. I have been shocked at how many people i never knew were that way

have shown themselves as big time racists. Some I have known for years, one couple we asked to leave our house after using the n word to describe the President. We had been friends since college.

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