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bigtree

(85,987 posts)
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 03:41 PM Jul 2014

Israeli army NOW *admits* it fired into UN school refuge, but denies anyone killed despite reports

Last edited Sun Jul 27, 2014, 05:17 PM - Edit history (5)

from AFP:

The Israeli army on Sunday confirmed firing a mortar round into a Gaza UN shelter where 15 people died on Thursday, but denied killing anyone at the site.

Briefing journalists on the findings of an internal military enquiry into the incident at a UN school in Beit Hanun, spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Peter Lerner said militants "in the vicinity" of the school fired mortar rounds and anti-tank rockets at Israeli forces . . .

"A single errant mortar (round) landed in the courtyard of the school," he said. "The courtyard was completely empty" at the time of the incident, he added.

"We reject the claims that were made by various officials immediately following the incident, that people were killed in the school premises as a result of (Israeli army) operational activity," he added.

An AFP photographer who went to the scene saw blood spattered on the ground and Gaza emergency services spokesman Ashraf al-Qudra said 15 people died in the blast and at least another 200 people were injured . . .


Mohammed Shinbary comforts his daughter Mahasin, 7, who was injured after an attack on a United Nations school. Photo: New York Times

read: http://www.news.net/article/1679789/Top+Stories?referid=302

related:

WaPo: At least 16 killed in attack on Gaza school, sparking massive protests in West Bank

GAZA CITY — It was one of the worst scenes so far in a war that has put civilians in the cross hairs. An elementary school packed with hundreds of Palestinian evacuees seeking shelter under U.N. protection came under heavy fire Thursday, leaving 16 people dead and more than 100 wounded, including women, children and infants.

A senior Israeli military spokesman, Lt. Col. Peter Lerner, said Thursday night that “there was a possibility” shells from Israeli forces­ struck the U.N.-run school in the Gaza Strip. But he also suggested that Hamas mortars or rockets could have been responsible. The Israeli army was investigating the incident “to see what exactly caused the deaths and injuries,” he said.

Witnesses, still shaking from the experience, said the shelter was filled with families who had fled their homes to escape more than two weeks of heavy shelling in the northern Gaza Strip.

As fighting raged around them Thursday morning, a series of explosions first struck the courtyard and then the school, which is run by the U.N. Relief and Works Agency, known as UNRWA.

read: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/israel-hamas-show-no-signs-of-bowing-to-pressure-for-truce/2014/07/24/90213d90-1305-11e4-8936-26932bcfd6ed_story.html

Reuters says:

"Laila Al-Shinbari, a woman who was at school when it was shelled, told Reuters families had gathered in the courtyard expecting to be evacuated shortly in a Red Cross convoy.

" 'All of us sat in one place when suddenly four shells landed on our heads ... Bodies were on the ground, (there was) blood and screams. My son is dead and all my relatives are wounded including my other kids,' she wept."

‘Appalled’ by attack on UN-run school in Gaza, UN Chief Ban urges halt to all fighting



Sergey Ponomarev for N.Y Times – Relatives of a boy killed Thursday in explosions at a UN school sheltering Gaza residents grieving over his body at a hospital.


Inside the Gaza schoolhouse massacre http://thebea.st/1nLru8X

http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2014/07/26/inside-the-gaza-schoolyard-massacre/jcr:content/image.crop.800.500.jpg/1406403137372.cached.jpg

BEIT HANOUN, Gaza –

There is no respite from the destruction as I drive into the UNRWA compound. Children’s paintings on the white walls are pockmarked with shrapnel. One shell blast in the middle of the courtyard has demolished the grey brick cobblestones. A second blast hit near the school’s garden, demolishing flowers. Random shoes and torn mattresses litter the ground along with half-drunk bottles of water and soda. The signs of a panicked and traumatic attempted escape from the school are everywhere. Here are shards of splintered writing desks. There are scattered pages from notebooks that rustle listlessly in the dust.

The two most deadly blasts hit classrooms on the second and third floor of the school and even days later the sulphur smell of explosives still hangs in the air. The rooms are blackened and charred; light pours in through shattered windows and shell holes in the walls. Desks are piled neatly in the corner where they’d been moved to make more room for people seeking shelter. Broken glass crunches under my feet as I walk through the school. In some rooms the floor is caked with dry blood.

A few of the survivors have returned to look for belongings. “This is the first time I came back since the shelling, thank God,” says 27-year-old Bassem Adwan. He looks much older than his age, with heavy bags under his eyes and so much plaster in his hair and beard that he seems to be prematurely gray. He looks through me as we talk, as if he could still see in front of him what he witnessed on Thursday. He starts to describe people who were scrambling for cover from the incoming shells, but, of course, there is nothing in a school that stops artillery. He looks around. “I’m afraid,” he says as he loads a hotplate into the back of a horse-drawn cart . . .

The shelling of Beit Hanoun was not the first time an UNRWA building was hit in this conflict. There were three attacks on other U.N. schools-turned-shelters before Thursday’s carnage, according to the agency’s spokesperson, Christopher Gunness, and 80 other UNRWA facilities have been damaged in this war.

Gunness says that U.N. investigation teams were fired on and had to turn back when they tried to reach the Beit Hanoun school on Friday. That incident echoed a similar attempt on Tuesday by the UN to investigate the shelling the day before of a girls’ school-turned-shelter in the Megazi refugee camp . . .

read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/26/inside-the-gaza-schoolyard-massacre.html

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bigtree

(85,987 posts)
2. I'm dumbfounded by their claim that no one was killed . . . and that casualties were already there.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 04:06 PM
Jul 2014

. . . or brought in later.

Notwithstanding the truth of the matter, is that supposed to be exculpatory?

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
5. At least better than their initial lie that it was misfired Hamas rockets...that all happened to hit
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 04:21 PM
Jul 2014

the same location at the same time. But it does make you wonder why people still swallow the "the only casualties are Hamas human shields" line.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
10. They don't care one way or the other. They don't have to.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 08:05 PM
Jul 2014

Bibi knows that Uncle Sugar's check will be in the mail next cycle, just like it's always been (and no doubt always will be).

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
15. The militarists probably thought we were, and seem genuinely surprised that they can't control the
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 11:09 PM
Jul 2014

message so easily in the age of social media. Looking at how poorly the mainstream media still covers the conflict, often repeating any of the claims as if they're facts, one can understand why the militarists thought it would be easy. It reminds me of how the Bush administration controlled the mainstream media in the early days of the Iraq War (with the lesson they learned from Vietnam being that any media criticism needs to be silenced). But as long as we have a free internet, it's hard for warmongers to control the narrative the way they used to.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
6. Actually, I've heard some of those sort of arguments before...
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 04:25 PM
Jul 2014

...but they were from people like David Irving, about a different event some seventy years ago.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
4. Obviously the palestinians are rushing corpses into inconvenient places to make the israelis look
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 04:18 PM
Jul 2014

bad. There is no other possible explanation.

bigtree

(85,987 posts)
16. also
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 11:54 PM
Jul 2014

. . .it occurs to me that Muslims have rather strict traditions and practices regarding their dead. I can't imagine that there would be allowances for using their own casualties for such a cynical and degrading political purpose.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
11. they had to 'fess up
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 08:08 PM
Jul 2014

because journalists found missile parts to prove it, so they are attempting damage control.

Good luck with that, Bibi. How about training some discipline in those troops? The IDF fights like a bunch of hysterical meth heads on a two day binge.

bigtree

(85,987 posts)
13. UN official busts David Gregory for using Israeli propaganda video: ‘That’s really unfair’
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 08:51 PM
Jul 2014

Gunness found the notion that he was being made to respond to a unconfirmed video that he couldn’t even see so ridiculous that he could barely contain laughter.

“Look, to be fair to me, to bring me on a live program and expect me to comment live on air on pictures I haven’ actually seen, I think anyone looking at this program would agree that’s really unfair,” Gunness insisted. “I mean, if I can see it, I’ll happily comment on it.”

At the conclusion of the program, Gregory said that the United Nations had “confirmed that the video does not show rockets being fired from a UN-administrated school in Gaza.”


read: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/27/un-official-busts-david-gregory-for-using-israeli-propaganda-video-thats-really-unfair/

DU thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025299514#post8

I don't know which is worse, the Israeli military of this American reporter willing to shill for people who admitted shelling a known UN shelter, and not for the first time.

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