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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 09:39 PM Jul 2014

If This Is Allowed To Stand... Kiss Your Constitution (Country) Good-Bye...

A convicted murderer in Arizona gasped and snorted for more than 90 minutes after a lethal injection Wednesday, his attorneys said, dying in a botched execution that will probably reinvigorate the national debate over the death penalty in the United States.

Joseph Rudolph Wood III’s execution began at 1:52 p.m. at the Arizona State Prison Complex in Florence. He was declared dead at 3:49 p.m. Wood had fought in court without success for more information about the drugs that would be used and the expertise of his executioners.

According to the Associated Press, his last words before the procedure were, “I take comfort knowing today my pain stops, and I said a prayer that on this or any other day you may find peace in all of your hearts and may God forgive you all.”

It took so long for Wood to die after receiving an injection of midazolam combined with hydromorphone that his attorneys had time to file an emergency appeal asking officials to save his life as the drugs apparently failed to fully take hold.

“At 1:57 p.m [officials] reported that Mr. Wood was sedated, but at 2:02 he began to breathe,” said the legal filing in federal court from public defender Jon M. Sands. “At 2:03 his mouth moved. Mr. Wood has continued to breathe since that time. He has been gasping and snorting for more than an hour. At 3:02 p.m. ... staff rechecked for sedation. He is still alive.”

Wood was not pronounced dead until nearly two hours after the procedure began...


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More: http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-arizona-execution-20140723-story.html

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And Jan Brewer Says..

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer said in a statement that she was "concerned by the length of time" it took Wood to die. She said she has ordered the Department of Corrections to conduct a complete review of the execution process.

"One thing is certain, however, inmate Wood died in a lawful manner and by eyewitness and medical accounts he did not suffer. This is in stark comparison to the gruesome, vicious suffering that he inflicted on his two victims - and the lifetime of suffering he has caused their family," the governor said.


More: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-execution-takes-two-hours-to-finish/


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If This Is Allowed To Stand... Kiss Your Constitution (Country) Good-Bye... (Original Post) WillyT Jul 2014 OP
I Don't Care How Horrible His Crimes Were... Are WE Supposed To Be Cyphers To The Constitution ?? WillyT Jul 2014 #1
Set them out in the deep woods and chase them down with a Predator drone DJ13 Jul 2014 #2
Oh Believe Me... That Would Be The Greatest Reality Show Ever !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #3
I suspect there are sickos who would pay to hunt them. Hoyt Jul 2014 #29
Death penalty is a freak show man. Gools and sadists love it. As we spend all that dough so they lonestarnot Jul 2014 #4
But they better not call themselves "pro-life." calimary Jul 2014 #13
Oh but they do. lonestarnot Jul 2014 #23
And we have to start re-educating America about this concept. "Pro-LIFE"? Seriously? Let's look: calimary Jul 2014 #24
Exactly. This should be an OP, it's so good. People who say they're pro-life are hypocrites. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #27
It has taken way to long JEB Jul 2014 #5
True. And she's not just a witch--she's a witch with a capital B, as we used to say when I Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #28
Not acceptable. nt Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #6
Horrifying! countryjake Jul 2014 #7
It's not about who he was, it's about who we are. ThoughtCriminal Jul 2014 #8
Whoever said it, it's a great to-the-point way of expressing it. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2014 #10
I am reminded of something I heard on TV from an inmate appal_jack Jul 2014 #9
"Wrong guy got locked up for someone else's crime, we can set things to right. The death penalty nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #22
If I see one more "I have no sympathy for him" post on DU I'm going to stroke out. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2014 #11
+1 It's mind blowing. Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #19
Unnacceptable. Dawson Leery Jul 2014 #12
Sorry to inform you Willy T...... DeSwiss Jul 2014 #14
Only in America can these so call pro life fuckers onecaliberal Jul 2014 #15
So they gave the man Versed and Dilaudid Seedersandleechers Jul 2014 #16
It won't be. babylonsister Jul 2014 #17
Jan Brewer doesn't seem to understand how a civilized society generally runs its sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #18
What is this obsession with "Two Wrongs" simple fallacy? defacto7 Jul 2014 #20
Republicans treat the Constitution same as they do the Bible. Kablooie Jul 2014 #21
PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #30
Deregulated capitalism is going to kill us all. Initech Jul 2014 #25
And Brewer makes our case for us, that the death penalty is REVENGE and nothing more Scootaloo Jul 2014 #26
First off, fuck that guy. PeteSelman Jul 2014 #31
 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
1. I Don't Care How Horrible His Crimes Were... Are WE Supposed To Be Cyphers To The Constitution ??
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 10:03 PM
Jul 2014

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
2. Set them out in the deep woods and chase them down with a Predator drone
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 10:13 PM
Jul 2014

Pay per view, like an old Arnold movie.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
3. Oh Believe Me... That Would Be The Greatest Reality Show Ever !!!
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 10:17 PM
Jul 2014

The ratings would be phenominal...

And the Battles at the Colosseum would be next.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
4. Death penalty is a freak show man. Gools and sadists love it. As we spend all that dough so they
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 10:24 PM
Jul 2014

can watch.

calimary

(86,940 posts)
24. And we have to start re-educating America about this concept. "Pro-LIFE"? Seriously? Let's look:
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 04:06 PM
Jul 2014

They are NOT "pro-life" if they:

1) cheer and hunger for executions. (Okay, some horrible offenders do have to suffer the ultimate penalty. But to cheer and hoot and slobber for blood and revenge??? Excuse me???)
2) push for legislation that endangers a WOMAN'S life by forcing pregnancy on her that cannot be terminated, even to save her.
3) push for legislation that endangers a WOMAN'S life by forcing pregnancy on her when it results from rape or incest.
4) push for legislation that endangers a WOMAN'S life by closing health clinics - that offer FAR FAR more services than merely abortion-related ones.
5) push for legislation that cuts back on the social safety net that SUSTAINS life, such as programs that provide services to the poor, hungry, and homeless (includes LOTS of children, too! Surprise!).
6) fight any attempts to raise the minimum wage or ensure workers' rights or union activities. THAT is what provides a family (often with a single head-of-household) with the basics of life support. Like maybe food for everyone in the family, so Mom isn't forced to skip meals so she can make sure her kids have enough to eat.
7) whine about paying taxes - that fund the programs and services that help sustain life in this country for those who need help and can't handle it themselves.
8) terrorize unaccompanied children trying to find their way across our borders - THEIR lives were in danger where they came from, and if you're supposedly "pro-life," YOU ARE OBLIGATED to care about THEIR welfare, too. Not just the so-called "pre-born," okay?
9) promote wanton access to any damn guns you feel like having, amassing, and waving around in public. If you've got a hard-on for guns, and you're walking around in public shoving your damn guns in our faces and flaunting your assault rifles like Flavor Flav flaunts his jewelry, you are actually a DOMESTIC TERRORIST showing off your KILLING capability. "Stand yer ground" MY ASS.
10) advocate for WAR. WAR WAR WAR!!! USA USA USA!!! Um... do ANY of those dumb-fuck assholes realize that war KILLS???? And kills INNOCENTS? Hey, if you think America actually DOES have enough money for war, then we sure as hell have the money to feed our hungry and clothe our poor and house our homeless and provide them even minimal health care. Don't give me that "we can't afford it" crap when you're ready to go blow up all the non-whites elsewhere in the world whom you don't like.

"Baby killers"??? Wonder how many of THEM qualify for that label, when you consider this list of priorities?

And we need to start spreading THIS truth, and THIS framing, and THIS meme. We need to manage the perception MUCH better, and on OUR terms.

The bad guys have spent 30-40 YEARS working on the public thinking, massaging the message, "teaching" gullible unsuspecting Americans to think of the issues the way the bad guys do, and filter the reasoning the way the bad guys do. While we sat back and just expected that America would somehow see and know what was good and what was bad. (HINT: they DON'T, and they WON'T, especially when they're constantly bombarded - indeed, carpet-bombed - with reinforcement and encouragement from every corner - to think the bad guys' way.) So it's really up to us. Our Democrats are painfully slow to wake up to this. Our comparable liberal talk radio network is non-existent. Our one reliable cable channel still lets way too many bad guys on, and ISN'T 24/7 message-focused like Pox Noise is - THANK YOU cheesy, cheap-ass prison reality-shows clogging all the weekend programming. So there's no balance. Our think-tanks and foundations are really only just getting started, while vermin nests like the American Enterprise Institute, the Cato Institute, the Hoover Institute, the Heritage Foundation, Americans for Prosperity, Freedomworks, and all those other koch brothers-supported set-ups aimed at pushing the CONservative world-view on all of America have been operating and chugging along rather vigorously for 30-40 YEARS ALREADY.

It's up to us. If you want the job done, might as well roll up your sleeves and do it yourself. We kinda have to. Until the still-too-anemic efforts on our side gain a little more muscle and vigor and clout.

It's up to us to lead.

Louisiana1976

(3,962 posts)
27. Exactly. This should be an OP, it's so good. People who say they're pro-life are hypocrites.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 04:37 PM
Jul 2014

Because all they care about are fetuses, not people who are already born.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
5. It has taken way to long
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 10:28 PM
Jul 2014

for the old witch, Brewer, to die. It's amazing that anybody that full of lethal dosages of hate, ignorance and bigotry can still be sucking air.

Louisiana1976

(3,962 posts)
28. True. And she's not just a witch--she's a witch with a capital B, as we used to say when I
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 04:39 PM
Jul 2014

was in the eighth grade.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,585 posts)
8. It's not about who he was, it's about who we are.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 11:27 PM
Jul 2014

And yes, I'm rephrasing a quote from Senator McCain.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
9. I am reminded of something I heard on TV from an inmate
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 11:27 PM
Jul 2014

Last edited Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:40 AM - Edit history (1)

I am reminded of something I heard on TV from an inmate who was serving a life sentence without the chance for parole: "I'm basically serving a slow death penalty." For a truly evil and hardened criminal, that 'slow death penalty' sounds like an appropriate punishment.

But I oppose the actual (i.- 'quick') death penalty because it is barbaric, because our government should be better than the murderers it punishes, and because it costs more than imprisoning our worst criminals for life sentences. Also, imprisoning our worst offenders for life without parole seems like a deeper, more substantial punishment, giving the perpetrator time to reflect on the harm done by the crime.

But most of all, I oppose the death penalty vs life without parole because if the jury happens to get it wrong, and the wrong guy got locked up for someone else's crime, we can set things to right. The actual death penalty does not allow that.

We humans are imperfect, and we must design our justice systems to be resilient and humane within that imperfection.

-app

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
22. "Wrong guy got locked up for someone else's crime, we can set things to right. The death penalty
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:21 AM
Jul 2014

does not allow that."

Perfectly stated, and also my #1 reason for opposing capital punishment.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
14. Sorry to inform you Willy T......
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 12:05 AM
Jul 2014

...but its all a Granfalloon anyway.

- The ''Constitution'' was only there to distract you while your pockets were being picked.....

K&R

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onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
15. Only in America can these so call pro life fuckers
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 12:06 AM
Jul 2014

Appoint themselves God. This cannot stand. It just can't.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
18. Jan Brewer doesn't seem to understand how a civilized society generally runs its
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 12:11 AM
Jul 2014

judicial system. She might be happier in Saudi Arabia. Justice isn't about revenge, which is what she is wrongfully advocating. She is a shameful example of far too many people in this so-called 'developed' nations, the ONLY one still practicing this medieval ritual.

defacto7

(14,098 posts)
20. What is this obsession with "Two Wrongs" simple fallacy?
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:00 AM
Jul 2014

It's the stupidest most redundant argument that only appeals to ignorance.

"This is in stark comparison to the gruesome, vicious suffering that he inflicted on his two victims - and the lifetime of suffering he has caused their family," the governor said.


Gov. Brewer, you think people are so stupid that they will suck up that logical fallacy or your stupid enough to actually believe that two wrongs make a right. Hey Jan... look up the term Tu Quoque.

Actually I think people do suck up to that kind of logic, AND she is stupid enough to believe that two wrongs make a right.

Is America losing it or what?

Kablooie

(18,928 posts)
21. Republicans treat the Constitution same as they do the Bible.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:15 AM
Jul 2014

They march around parroting parts they like while totally ignoring parts they don't like.

They don't believe in either document.
It's only a tool to manipulate for political purposes.

Initech

(105,529 posts)
25. Deregulated capitalism is going to kill us all.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 04:19 PM
Jul 2014

These botched executions are just another result of major corporations being allowed to literally get away with murder. And yet they want even fewer regulations and more profit.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
26. And Brewer makes our case for us, that the death penalty is REVENGE and nothing more
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 04:21 PM
Jul 2014
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