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madokie

(51,076 posts)
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 05:11 AM Jul 2014

Is This SA-11 'Buk" SAM Missing 2 Missiles The One That Shot Down MH17?

A video has surfaced that supposedly shows an SA-11 "Buk" SAM system being flat-bedded out of Eastern Ukraine and into Russia. Regardless of its destination, what's interesting is that two of its missiles are missing.

It is entirely common to fire two missiles in quick succession at a single target to improve the probability of a kill, and we also know that an AN-26 was shot down earlier in the week above shoulder fired missile range. Could this be the offending SA-11 that the US Government, and the world for that matter, is searching for? Did it indeed cross the border between Russia and Ukraine as we had reported as a possibility earlier in the day? We cannot be sure, but the video is extremely interesting to say the least, especially seeing as the mobile SAM is not being driven on the road under its own power as it had been photographed and filmed doing earlier in the week.

When heavy military vehicles need to get somewhere fast they are loaded onto a flat-bed tractor trailer. In this SA-11's case, there are many very important reasons for pro-Russian Rebels, or the Russians themselves, to dispose of this vehicle as quickly as possible.

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/is-this-sa-11-buk-sam-missing-2-missiles-the-one-that-1607521886

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Is This SA-11 'Buk" SAM Missing 2 Missiles The One That Shot Down MH17? (Original Post) madokie Jul 2014 OP
Info can be found Jeneral2885 Jul 2014 #1
wish they would drone target those missile launchers and turn them all into Russian junk heaps. Sunlei Jul 2014 #2
There are 27 batalions of Russian made Buk-M1 missile systems dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #4
If it did we got Satelite pics to prove it FreakinDJ Jul 2014 #3
Undoubtably dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #5
Just like OJ was going to find the real killers nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #7
I will bet that the launch/control unit of the Buk was located inside the russian border. LiberalArkie Jul 2014 #6

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
2. wish they would drone target those missile launchers and turn them all into Russian junk heaps.
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 05:41 AM
Jul 2014
Putin should not be allowed to get ANY of his military stuff back to Russia.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
4. There are 27 batalions of Russian made Buk-M1 missile systems
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 06:20 AM
Jul 2014

of which 26 remain in Ukraine's hands - separatists stole the other one. The ones which were moved recently to the east were those Kiev purchased in the past from Russia. Yes by all means drone the whole fucking lot.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
5. Undoubtably
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 06:26 AM
Jul 2014

and Russia is claiming possession of the radar signature of the actual launcher which fired the missile.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
6. I will bet that the launch/control unit of the Buk was located inside the russian border.
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 10:14 AM
Jul 2014

Only the launcher was moved in and out of the Ukraine.

If I remember correctly on the audio of the Ukrainian talking to the Russia officer, the Ukrainian seemed a little upset with it being a civilian airliner and the russian seemed to be wanting to CYA.

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