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CJ Grisham, the founder of Open Carry Texas, decided to address the criticism his group has encountered regarding this planned march. When the march was first scheduled, Grisham and the group came under intense criticism for a variety of reasons. Even after OCT postponed the march, the group was under fire due to the appearance of racial insensitivity. OCT posted the following late Monday evening on the groups website:
We are not going to be marching through 5th Ward, said OCT Founder CJ Grisham, were going to hopefully be marching with 5th Ward.
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/07/15/open-carry-texas-schedules-date-armed-march-black-neighborhood.html
Let me break out the old crystal ball here: This ain't gonna end well...
onethatcares
(16,130 posts)I don't think they'd feel well about the 5th Ward showing up in their neighborhoods to march "with" them.
but hey, what do I know?
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)They used to at least pretend to be civil..
polichick
(37,152 posts)It's in your face in a big ugly way.
They can't wait for an excuse to start shooting people all over the place.
onethatcares
(16,130 posts)they feel threatened in any way.
"But officer, the guy told me I was an asshole for blowing black smoke in his 45K car and I felt threatened by his language. I had to shoot him"
"But officer, he came out of the house carrying an AR15 clone and I wasn't sure if he was going to join us or fire on us, so I opened up first. What's a guy to do?"
Yes, it's getting uglier..
Warpy
(110,900 posts)The south is especially good at producing these goobers, although you can find them in all 50 states. Other states have managed to shame some manners into them most of the time. The south seems to want to fight another Civil War. The joke would be on them if we let them go.
Gothmog
(143,998 posts)These idiots want to provoke a confrontation where somebody is going to get hurt
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)when Black Panthers began using open carry to follow police while carrying shotguns.
I can envision the yahoos marching through the 5th., with a line of residents in formation, on the curb holding rifles.
Like another poster said, Autta end well.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)scared White people peed their pants and the California legislature quickly passed the Mulford Act in 1967 banning open carry in California, signed by Governor Ronald Reagan with the full support of the NRA.
Seems Republican saint Ronald Reagan loved him some gun control, right along with the NRA, when it was people they didn't like having guns exercising their rights.
THAT'S RIGHT, THE NRA WAS ALL FOR GUN CONTROL WHEN IT WAS BLACK PEOPLE CARRYING THE GUNS.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)If this group plans to make this march, the national guard should be called out to surround them as they march because whites have demonstrated a willingness to kill, plunder, and destroy African Americans and their neighborhoods.
This history needs to be known far and wide - the greatest threat to Americans on American soil are white racists. This has been the case since this nation's founding. Apparently the group didn't ask anyone in the neighborhood association if they wanted a massive showing of armed whites walking down the street.
but they did recruit one black guy so they could claim - hey, we're not trying to intimidate African Americans. The guy they recruited has a conviction and cannot carry a weapon anyway - and the guy, the one black guy, the one black guy who has signed on to this, wants a race war, so the link in the OP notes (at Liberaland, with a capture of the guy's statement.)
The Tulsa race riot started by white people began because a woman elevator operator claimed rape when a shoeshine man, who had to use the elevator to get to the rest room facilities he was allowed to use, was jostled by the elevator's sudden stop. The (black) shoeshine man touched the white elevator operator.
The Mayor of the town colluded with white citizens who called for the lynching of Dick Rowland, the shoeshine man. Whites gathered at the jail. Tulsa had a very successful black middle class district - it was called "Black Wall Street." The people who lived there had built their own businesses, homes, and some of them were more successful than whites in Tulsa - many of the white people were KKK members in good standing, and upstanding in their city.
About 70 men from the African American neighborhood went to the jail, with guns, to offer support to the sheriff. He refused. A white man told one of the black men to put down his gun. The black man refused. Shots were exchanged - then more shots. The African American men retrenched in their neighborhood because they had no support from the local law enforcement or governing authorities. Once the shots were fired, the entire incident then became a "negro uprising." ---Because 70 brave men stood against a lynching of an innocent man.
The national guard was called in and used bombers from WWI to BOMB THE AFRICAN AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOOD. Whites looted property in the neighborhood, destroyed more than a thousand buildings... one man, on record, who was a child at the time said he and his siblings hid from the looters in his house by hiding under a bed. One of them stepped on his toe and his sister put her hand over his mouth to keep him from crying out. They ran away after the looters set their house on fire. Other women and children tried to run away and were followed by white men in cars who shot at them as they ran down the streets.
Only two churches in the city opened their doors to African Americans fleeing for their lives. Their church was burned to the ground.
So, yeah, if you see white men with guns headed for an African American neighborhood, it's time to call out the national guard to protect citizens of this nation from the insane white people who live here.
postulater
(5,075 posts)Growing up in a small Wisconsin town in the 50s I always wondered what the racism thing was about.
What helped me understand it more was learning about the history of the Irish in America. I had family that came to the US in the 1840s and know a little bit about their story.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)French people who stayed in Nova Scotia were deported back to France by the British after their war - the French didn't want them, either, so those folks ended up settling in Louisiana - but other French settlers didn't stay in Canada and made their way down the rivers - which is why so many towns along the Mississippi and Ohio rivers, etc. have French-cognate names.
Anyway, yeah, white people aren't told about their history of abuse of people.
But we should know because, imo, we see the same sort of thing happening now - this is always the case when economic messes hit the middle and working classes - they turn on each other more often than not.
And, you know, the Irish became "white" because they showed they could be as racist as an English or French person.
JustAnotherGen
(31,681 posts)RainDog
(28,784 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)the coward the racists are that when armed and in gang, they immediately look to go to a black neighborhood. fuck if that is not in your face, blatant bigotry. just put on the white robes.
postulater
(5,075 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,436 posts)Demostrations openly designed to be in your face and confrontational have no business being defended under the 1st Amendment. This is not "shouting fire in a crowded theater," this is walking into one with incendiaries.
NutmegYankee
(16,177 posts)I though would compare this case to National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie.
Iggo
(47,486 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,161 posts)these losers are stumblebums with manhood issues.
Iggo
(47,486 posts)ananda
(28,781 posts)I mean, Fifth Ward Houston?
The people in that area are politically aware and active, very strong,
and do not have a custom of tolerating racism and nonsense.
My thinking: this march will never happen there. It's just a lot
of guff and posturing by a seriously deranged hate group. That
in itself is bad enough, of course.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)citizens of this country.
They need to be banned and destroyed.
hack89
(39,171 posts)KinMd
(966 posts)..legally armed of course, shouldn't be any problems there
NutmegYankee
(16,177 posts)That the Fred Phelps clan managed to survive their protests makes it highly unlikely anything violent would occur. Police would be very hesitant to act against the law (with cameras rolling) in what would surely result in a major civil rights case against them.
KinMd
(966 posts)that why the SOB's have won lawsuits before
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)that ought to endear them to their neighbors.
Paladin
(28,202 posts)It's a little late for attempts at overt, armed racial intimidation. Which is exactly what your little soiree in the Fifth Ward will be.
Find a new venue to show off your assault rifles, facial hair, and shitty clothing. Better yet, stay at home.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)As the white men with guns march down the street of a black neighborhood, I'd love to see all of the residents on their front porches pointing and laughing out loud.
It reminds me of an incident from my childhood. One evening, my parents drove us to downtown Seattle (from the suburbs) to go shopping (before malls). In those days, we had to pass through a minority area. As we were stopped at a light, my mother took one look around at the black people, reached behind her and locked her door. The people on the street pointed and laughed at her. I never did know how she felt about that, but even at my young age, I thought it was funny.
KinMd
(966 posts)of course it's to keep people in the car in the event of a crash