Conor Oberst Rape Accuser: 'I Made up Lies to Get Attention'

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Joanie Faircloth, who alleged that Bright Eyes frontman Conor Oberst had sexually assaulted her in the comments of an XOJane article, has now admitted that she made the whole story up. In February, Oberst had filed a libel lawsuit against her, calling her accusations "absolutely, unequivocally false." Now Faircloth is asking for forgiveness for what she wrote.

"The statements I made and repeated online and elsewhere over the past six months accusing Conor Oberst of raping me are 100 percent false," she wrote in a notarized statement via Buzzfeed. "I made up those lies about him to get attention while I was going through a difficult period in my life and trying to cope with my son's illness. I publicly retract my statements about Conor Oberst and sincerely apologize to him, his family and his fans for writing such awful things about him. I realize that my actions were wrong and could undermine the claims of actual sexual assault victims and for that I also apologize. I'm truly sorry for all the pain that I caused."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/conor-oberst-rape-accuser-i-made-up-lies-to-get-attention-20140714

[Aristus]

1. Thanks a lot.

She set back the cause of genuine rape victims incalculably because of this...

[1StrongBlackMan]

3. I don't know ...

It's hard for me to accept such "turn-arounds" ... especially after the recanter had repeated the story over time 1,000s of time.

Not saying it doesn't happen ... Just call me suspicious.

[Comrade Grumpy]

5. I don't understand what you're saying here.

Do you not believe the recantation?

What are suspicious about?

[el_bryanto]

7. Sometimes pressure is brought to bear on victims to recant their testimony

Could be "positive" pressure (here take this money and tell people you lied) or negative pressure (Do you really have the money to stand up to a libel suit). Not saying that happened here myself, but it seems possible.

Bryant

[Dreamer Tatum]

9. Oh ye GODS nt

[Comrade Grumpy]

10. And sometimes pressure is brought to bear on false accusers to recant their testimony.

I don't know the particulars of this case. Has this person presented one scintilla of evidence to back her rape claims?

If not, suggesting that she falsely recanted seems to be bending over backwards.

[el_bryanto]

12. I haven't followed the case.

I wouldn't know what the evidence in this matter is either. I'm just suggesting that there is a potential reason why someone might recant their testimony.

Bryant

[1StrongBlackMan]

15. I haven't either ...

But the libel suit was filed in February and the recanting accuser is said to have repeated her claims 100s of times over 6 months. It's difficult to lie, over time, and not have the claims picked apart ... Especially, when the motivation is to gain notoriety.

[NaturalHigh]

117. Well, she will have a chance to address that in court.

[seabeyond]

14. Why don't you throw up the stats on false accusations showing how minimal it is?

Seeing how you were not moved at all by a 16 yr old girl drugged, raped, video, her rape porn distributed for boys to get off on, hash tagged for mocking across the nation.

The only necessary thing to share in that rape thread were numbers, how insignificant rape is.

You seem bothered this man accused in public, certainly causing him problems for 6 months is so much more significant than that girl. Drugged. Raped. Video for distribution and consumption. Mocked across the nation.

[el_bryanto]

19. Another time out? Does that language strike you as disrespectful?

I know how I would react if someone suggested i needed a time-out.

Bryant

[oldhippie]

24. How?

Maybe you need a time out?

(Just curious.)

[el_bryanto]

25. I think it's disrespectful because a time-out is something you give to children

the implication is that seabeyond can't control her emotions, so she needs to be sent off somewhere until she's back under control. Again, like you would do with a child.

Bryant

[oldhippie]

26. Well, then ....

... that seems pretty appropriate then, doesn't it?

Maybe if it was called a "vacation" or "penalty period" or something it wouldn't offend your sensibilities so?

What is your preferred term?

Oh, and you didn't answer the question of how you would act if someone suggested you needed a time out.

[el_bryanto]

27. I would probably say something like "Go fuck yourself."

Hypothetically.

It doesn't seem appropriate because Seabeyond isn't a child, and doesn't deserve to be treated as one.

Bryant

[oldhippie]

30. Very good ...

I like honesty in a person.

[el_bryanto]

33. I disagree with your assessment

I think that she is retaliated against - for some reason she's a lightning road for those who want to silence feminists at DU. While I have seen her say things she shouldn't have, I also believe that she is targeted, both to provoke and then to alert.

Bryant

[seabeyond]

34. now, i am acting like a child, that needs a time out, cause i am out of control, for stating a fact?

[Quantess]

103. Thank you for speaking out

about what you feel is important.

[TDale313]

42. Oh, bullshit.

Sea's been alert stalked for ages around here. She could post "I love puppies" and someone would alert and at least some of the jury members would vote to hide, just cause it's her. It's gotten ridiculous.

[whathehell]

105. Thank you.

She's not the only feminist here who gets that reaction, either.

[Squinch]

52. Agschmid did an experiment. He posted one of seabeyond's posts, word for word, under his

own name. She was hidden. He was not.

Has she ever been uncivil to you, or are you going on the groupthink here? The next time she is in unable to post, I recommend that you look at her transparency page. The last time, the five hidden posts were very benign.

[smirkymonkey]

70. Wow, that is eye opening.

I wasn't aware of that. So sorry that happened to you seabeyond.

[Squinch]

73. I thought so too. There IS a groupthink among those who like to hate her. I bet

the majority of them have never interacted with her.

Others, of course, are offended by women who communicate feminist ideas, but I suspect many - if not most - are just jumping on some ignorant bandwagon.

[whathehell]

107. Oh please...That's condescending bullshit.

[seabeyond]

31. are you suggesting i need a time out? are you agreeing i am out of control?

i stated facts. why would you or anyone think i needed a time out for being out of control, merely stating facts.

[oldhippie]

35. It's not the facts that I find objectionable.

It's that other unmentionable thing.

Oh, and not using capitals. Yeah, that's it.

[seabeyond]

36. since you are unable to mention it, i will remain clueless.

[oldhippie]

37. I'm not going to fall for that trap again ....

This is not my first rodeo, so remain so.

Also, I find it difficult to converse with people that don't use capitals. It just feels, ..... well, .... beneath me.

[seabeyond]

41. whatever dude.

[Agschmid]

43. Keeping it classy I see.

[Squinch]

55. This is the basis you use to judge people's worth? How sad for you.

[oldhippie]

56. It's a tough life ...

but one must have some principles.

[Squinch]

57. You might want to get on that, then.

[oldhippie]

59. I'm old enough I have had my core principles for awhile.

You probably wouldn't like some of them, but that's OK.

[Squinch]

60. Since I have never seen any evidence of them, it's no matter to me.

[oldhippie]

61. One of mine is to ...

... always have the last word in a thread. Thank you for helping me build my post count.

Next?

[Squinch]

69. Having the last word in a thread is one of your core principles? Somehow that doesn't surprise me.

You have at it. Enjoy yourself.

[oldhippie]

76. Thank you, I am enjoying myself .....

It's a fun evening.

[seabeyond]

63. lol. and judging one cause of capitalization is a core principle for you. bah hahahahahahahahahaha

[cyberswede]

128. Nice, OldHippie

oh wait...

[BainsBane]

132. No, it isn't beneath you

not at all.

[whathehell]

104. What "unmentionable thing"?

I'd like to know, because it does sound like you're giving her shit for her feminism.

Maybe it's you who need a "time out".

:

[oldhippie]

120. And where, exactly ....

.... in any one of my posts in this thread, have I given Sea shit for her feminism? Show me, I'd like to see it. I am not anti-feminist.

If you think I need a "time out" feel free to alert.

[whathehell]

121. Answering my question with yours won't work...Answer my question first,

then we'll go to yours.

What is the 'unmentionable thing"?

[oldhippie]

123. Ok, come closer, closer .......

(whispering very quietly, because this will start a shitstorm if it gets out ....)

Tone.

(Now, don't tell anyone. It really stirs emotions in certain quarters, just watch.)

[seabeyond]

124. you can project whatever tone you want on me. that is a limp excuse. i have no control

over how you interpret my "tone". that is not on me.

my tone is perfectly mellow, straightforward, stating facts.

you and others want to make it about some tone issue, cause you do not like the facts.

kinda how you will feel about this post. cause i point out the bullshit in accusing .... tone.

silliness.

[whathehell]

125. You can lose the faux cloak and dagger..

but I believe the "tone" of an internet post is hard to decipher,

given that there's no "sound" involved.

To the extent that it's possible, I'd suggest you be more specific.

Your tone, for instance, seems patronizing and highly sarcastic.

[BainsBane]

133. PWF

Posting while feminist. That's the tone he objects to.

[whathehell]

134. Got it Thanks. n/t

[Eleanors38]

126. "time out" is too delicate for my critics.

[BainsBane]

44. Why is that?

How dare anyone question the superior members of the site? It's pretty obvious it is the content of the posts that you all object to, and you turn to personal attacks because you have nothing of substance to counter with.

Interesting that about a month ago we heard great cries about censorship of bigoted language, but now that Seabeyond questions a member's selective use of statistics about rape, she needs not only to be censored but banished for raising a perfectly legitimate viewpoint that people here don't want to deal with. And that el bryanto asks what is uncivil about Sea's post leads to a similar response from you, we can only suppose because you too are entirely unwilling to address the issue being discussed.

[oldhippie]

46. "How dare anyone question the superior members of the site?"

How dare I! OMG! Oh My Fucking God!

I'm sorry, I almost can't reply. My sides hurt too much.

"And that el bryanto asks what is uncivil about Sea's post leads to a similar response from you, we can only suppose because you too are entirely unwilling to address the issue being discussed."

You just can't seem to understand, it's not about Sea's facts, it's about something else that you don't like. And you're just going to have to wonder what it is.

[BainsBane]

47. Clearly your judgement is off

Since it was not her posts in this thread that were hidden.

Believe me, the last thing I am going to devote time to is thinking about what is in your head. I can't imagine why you think anyone would care. If it's not important enough to articulate, clearly even don't consider it important. We all know one other's posting habits enough to figure out what one another's ideological and personal perspectives are.

[oldhippie]

48. It's not important ....

If it was, I certainly wouldn't be discussing it here. I just thought I would drop in for a visit.

[seabeyond]

49. you came in du for a couple jabs, now off... to the more important stuff? lol. what? discussionist?

[oldhippie]

62. Have you been over there? ...

You might give it a try. It should be fun.

[seabeyond]

64. so, that IS where you do your serious discussion. you have me in stitches old. between

your core principles and seriousness with discussionist, that says a hell of a lot.

[oldhippie]

65. Come on down, we could have some fun ....

... and you would enjoy wielding your intellectual wit. If you dare.

[seabeyond]

67. a part of the intellectual integrity is not acting cause someone says i dare you.... i double

dog dare you.

never worked with me much. i was sure to teach the boys, from the youngest of age, that is a sure sign of ignorance and lack of character.

you enjoy the simple mind over at the other site. glad you find so much that meets your core principles and your intellectual wit.

[oldhippie]

71. I know it's tough on you guys ...

... when there are two sides and you are not protected.

[BainsBane]

68. I think it's great they created that site

because the people more at home with the Tea Party than liberals, and women and people of color in particular, are free to express who they really are.

[oldhippie]

72. So are you saying that ....

... people should not express who they really are? Better to pretend, like they have to here?

[Squinch]

75. If their true selves are against the democratic principles of equal rights for women,

people of color, and LGBT people, then they should probably find another site that isn't called Democratic Underground.

You get that, don't you?

[oldhippie]

77. What if they are for most of them, but ....

... have some different thoughts on others? Does their lack of ideological purity pretty much exclude them from this site?

[Squinch]

78. If they are against equal rights for women, people of color and LGBT people, and if they

are antagonistic to the idea of equal rights for those groups, it does seem obvious, doesn't it? I think that when people come here specifically to be antagonistic to the idea of equal rights for women, people of color or LGBT people, that's pretty much the definition of troll.

You get that, don't you?

[oldhippie]

80. I don't think you answered the question

You dodged it.

[Squinch]

83. Well, then it's a good thing that what you think is not important to me.

Now, you have stated that the core principle in your ethic is to have the last word in a thread, so you go ahead and show us how principled you are.

[oldhippie]

91. OK, I'll just leave with this .....

Does their lack of ideological purity pretty much exclude them from this site?

Good night.

[BainsBane]

85. Clearly not, since some of those folks remain

Though I would think it would be frustrating to continually feel you have to hide your true views.

[whathehell]

111. You are "for" equal rights for some people, but not others, like women?

Forget "ideological purity" -- Equal rights for all is a core belief.

Maybe those with a lingering sense of superiority based on a birth condition

should work out their noxious sense of entitlement elsewhere.

[BainsBane]

82. Only some people pretend here

I certainly don't. I think the ones that do have to pretend here are better suited for the other site.

[oldhippie]

90. I think a number are migrating .....

.... which many think may have been skinner's intent. I dunno.

[BainsBane]

66. I find it fascinating

Principally because so many of the people who claim to be liberals are indistinguishable from the right-wingers on many issues.

[oldhippie]

74. Do you think maybe ....

... it's because they don't have to pretend over there?

[Squinch]

79. Are you saying that you prefer the way you are free to be yourself over there? If so,

why aren't you over there right now, basking in the freedom to flout democratic principles?

[oldhippie]

81. Because it is .....

... fun to come over here once in awhile and see what's going on. I am, afterall, a contributing member here. Am I not welcome?

[Squinch]

87. OK. So now, have that last word that is so essential for your well being.

[seabeyond]

89. look. i am sure you will go back to discussionist and tell the buddies how you got them wimminz, ...

good. giggle and high five that you are da man.

the thing. this is being a disruptor and you admit it on this thread. the purpose to taunt and cause problems. takin' jabs.

contributor or not.

[oldhippie]

92. Gee, I thought I was

... just discussing stuff. Do you disagree with something I said?

[seabeyond]

93. old. you have not really said much of anything, but that you are playing a game.

[oldhippie]

95. I haven't said much of anything you like ....

... I know.

Anyway, it's been fun.

And as Shakespeare said, - "All the internet's a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts."

Exit - stage left.

[BainsBane]

86. Yes. I do.

[BainsBane]

29. Score?

Do you think this is a game? People's lives are being hurt, both rape victims--in the case of those actually assaulted--and men falsely accused, as this instance appears to be.

[oldhippie]

38. Record may be a more ....

.. appropriate term?

[BainsBane]

50. I'll just point out that those members recently PPR'd

for trolling and/or misogyny never had time outs. They clearly are not as much of a determinant as you seem to think.

[oldhippie]

58. Thank you for pointing that out ...

.. not that I can see how it makes any difference.

[LanternWaste]

22. The statistics of actual versus fictional claims of rape does seem germane

The statistics of actual versus fictional claims of rape does seem quite germane, regardless of whether you perceive it as a personal attack or not.

[seabeyond]

23. you walk into a thread of a 16 yr old girl, drugged, raped, videod, distributed, hashtagged mocked

and all you posts were stats that rape has decreased so.

that is fact.

i do not need a time out for fact. surely.

"bile"?

would be walking into a thread of a 16 yr old that was drugged, raped, videod and distributed for consumption, hashtagged monking across the nation, and the only concern is rape is decreasing.

out of control?

stating a fact is not out of control.

personal attacks?

you walk into a thread on a 16 yr old girl that was drugged and gang raped. and you put up stats.

stating the facts is not a personal attack.

[BainsBane]

28. Good jury decision

That he turned to personal attacks only highlights that he couldn't respond based on substance.

[qazplm]

102. which stats?

The ones that say 2 percent? Or the ones that say in the 40s?

I don't believe either set of stats to be honest. I certainly believe the number is higher than 2 and lower than 40, but I have no idea what it truly is, and I don't believe the "stats" compiled to this point have an accurate hold on it either.

It happens enough to be an issue, but not enough that you shouldn't treat every accusation of rape with seriousness and a strong investigation.

[Squinch]

51. Right. Cause that never happens...

[sabrina 1]

97. And sometimes people just lie and then realize the harm they have done and

try to undo it. I give her credit for at least admitting the lie. Others wait sometimes for years after someone has had their lives ruined before having an attack of conscience.

As she said, she has seriously harmed the cause of those who actually have been raped. And no doubt, as we see already in this thread, damaged the reputation of the person she accused because this kind of thing can never really be undone.

I remember the Dem who was falsely accused of corruption after being vindicated asking 'but how do I get my reputation back'.

Your comment here demonstrates the harm done even though she now admits to lying. His reputation is forever tarnished.

[moriah]

11. If she really does have a history of "catfishing", it sounds like a case of Munchausen by Internet.

http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/conor-oberst-allegations-internet-freedom/

http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/its-catfishing-season-how-to-tell-lovers-from-liars-online-and-more/#!beWAi2

As much as I always want to give victims the benefit of the doubt, the confusion about dates really makes me think this is a lie. Even before she made the accusation online, she was making comments about the band, including saying that she allegedly attended a concert on her 16th birthday and that he pulled her up onstage and sang happy birthday to her. However, there was no concert for that band on her birthday that year in that town for her to rape her at or sing her happy birthday at.. She then said it was a side project's concert the year prior. That date does check out, but a sixteenth birthday is very memorable.

She also said that she puts her son to sleep with music from the band. After I was raped, I could barely handle living in the same town (and did move a few months later), let alone listening to my rapist's voice *putting my child to sleep*. The idea makes me puke a little in my mouth.

[1StrongBlackMan]

16. Okay. Thanks for the information. eom.

[zappaman]

2. What a horrible thing to be accused of.

Glad it didn't drag on any longer.

[moriah]

4. Is "attention-whore" offensive if directed against a woman....

... when the context of the situation in any way involves alleged sexual behavior? Because that's what she is, yet, I feel somehow non-PC for thinking it.

Please don't judge every rape victim based on attention-whores like these.

[BainsBane]

18. Yes, it is

She committed a felony, as does anyone who makes a false rape allegation. The phrase you chose doesn't capture the seriousness of those actions, and it unnecessarily perpetrates negative language about female sexuality.

[sarisataka]

39. Yes

As it specifically insults a woman for sexual activity in a way a man would not be negatively judged

[moriah]

88. Uh, I'd judge a man for making up being raped to get attention, just as harshly...

.... as I would a woman.

Perhaps even more harshly, given how difficult it is for men to report rape at all.

[Squinch]

94. But the words you used probably wouldn't criticize his sexuality, as words

like "slut" and "whore" do to women. When we criticize men, we call them names, and harsh ones, and that's fine. But we generally don't criticize men with words that specifically refer to their sexuality. With women, though, most of the words we use DO refer specifically to their sexuality, and do so in a way that suggests that sexuality is negative.

So I'm all for judging this person harshly if she is lying. Better yet, throw the book at her. But the crime here is that she was a liar and she tried to ruin another person. The crime here is not about her being a whore.

[riqster]

106. Nicely put. +1

[whathehell]

108. Exactly, thank you. n/t

[moriah]

113. Actually, I'd probably call him the same thing. So desperate for attention....

.... that they'll do or say anything to get their 10 minutes, no matter who it hurts? Definition of the phrase to me.

The *only* reasons I felt slightly non-PC was that it was a woman, and that people still confuse rape with sex when the two are only coincidentally related. *I* know that rape has nothing to do with sex, therefore it was not a comment at all on her sexual behavior, but not everyone does. If it'd been a male and they'd lied about any *other* thing just to get attention, I don't think the non-PCness would have struck me.

[Squinch]

116. But when you think of what a whore is, do you think of a man or a woman?

[moriah]

118. Honestly? I think of a male friend of mine, Isaac.

He's called *himself* a whore, without the "man" prefix that usually gets attached to the type of behavior he's so proud of yet women are usually judged for, for so long that his face comes to mind when I hear the word.

-----

But regardless, Joanie Faircloth sold her lies simply to get attention, so we'd even know her name. She likely suffers from severe psychological problems considering her history of faking being a cancer patient online -- Munchausen by Internet may not be in the DSM-V, but perhaps it ought to be.

[Squinch]

119. No, I mean the meaning of the word "whore." We call male prostitutes "male prostitutes." We

call female prostitutes or very sexually active women "whores" or "prostitutes." The "female" is understood.

Though your friend doesn't use the "male" to refer to himself, it is much more common when the word is used for a man to specify that he is a "male whore." We never say "female whore" because the female is understood.

I don't think we disagree that lies to ruin someone else should be considered a criminal act.

[moriah]

122. That's why I expressed that my experience was different from others.

I know far more women who embrace the word "slut", and even the dreaded "c" word (there's a book), than many, and then also I know guys (like Issac) who appropriate those and similar words for their own behaviors as well. I'm pretty solidly "third-wave", I suppose. And that's not counting the many people I love who deliberately strive for genderqueerness and try to reclaim the derogatory words assigned to both genders.

My experience is not the norm for everyday America, though.

[Squinch]

129. We all have men and women in our lives who toss those words around, and it's becoming a point

of pride for some men to refer to themselves as "man whores." The question is, are we considering what we are saying when we use those terms?

I am not sure that "reclaiming" is possible. Those words were never "claimed" in the first place, by which I mean that they were never positive. So I am not sure why we would try to "reclaim" them.

A woman with a healthy sex life is just that: a woman being a woman. The slut/whore/etc. idea is something that is imposed on top of that by a culture that disapproves of a woman being a woman. These attempts to "reclaim" the words that have always been used to shame women for being women seem to me to pander to that misplaced disapproval.

[Gravitycollapse]

54. Yeah, you should feel uncomfortable calling a woman a whore. Please don't do it again.

[malaise]

6. So where is her photograph?

Women like this one create serious problems for women who are actually raped.

Fugg off woman.

[seabeyond]

8. How many rapes today around the world? One false accusation today not taken beyond public,

can do that much damage? Then I would think that is on us and we need to reflect. Because as a thinking person, informed. I know better.

[malaise]

100. Your knowing better doesn't stop the people

who already trivialize rape from spewing BS about women crying rape. You'd be surprised at the number of human beings who are not thinking persons.

[seabeyond]

110. that is really the point. they were doing it before this women. and they would be doing it

even if this did not happen.

for them, it is about excusing and dismissing rape. not reality.

[malaise]

112. So let's encourage dumb women with agendas

to wrongfully accuse men of rape.

Whatever!

[whathehell]

114. What a strange conclusion you've drawn...

I don't think Sea's post suggests anything like that.

[seabeyond]

115. right malaise, that is what i said. women everywhere, accuse men of false rape. really?

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[Squinch]

130. No one said anything even remotely resembling that statement. Why are YOU saying it?

[polly7]

99. I agree. She can go fuck herself ....... how many people with influence in

trying and judging real instances of rape were influenced by her actions ........ we won't know, and neither will the women whose rapists will get away with it. ONE woman not believed by people using this POS example to go by will be too many.

And, not to make light of at all the damage she could have done to this one man and his family's life - possibly ruining them had this been carried through and him convicted of it. I don't understand it and never will, but it is sick behaviour and as a rape survivor it pisses me off, minimizing something so horrible by lying about it is like rubbing salt into wounds that never heal.

[malaise]

101. This

minimizing something so horrible by lying about it is like rubbing salt into wounds that never heal.

[Eleanors38]

127. Ton of selfie images of her. Fitting.

[dilby]

13. Criminal Charges should be brought against her.

I am sorry but if you falsely accuse someone of a crime, you should be held liable if no crime took place.

[Warren DeMontague]

40. Everything I've seen about Conor Oberst indicates he's a good guy, and a solid progressive.

That's a classy way to handle this.

[Hoyt]

45. That was one of the best anti-bush songs during the reign of terror.

[Violet_Crumble]

109. I'd never heard it before. Here's one anti-Bush song that was far better...

Bright Eyes are rather boring, but I hope Conor Oberst continues with the libel suit and wins. What she did, and the damage she's caused to him is so wrong...

[pinboy3niner]

84. I got to see him 10 yrs ago at a Vote for Change concert in which Bright Eyes was the bottom act

The top 3 were Springsteen, Fogerty and R.E.M. The entire concert was great--but too short. The audience happily would have stayed for another couple of hours. And all of the performers were actively working for Kerry, of course.

[Warren DeMontague]

98. Yeah, I saw R.E.M. in Oct. of 2004, too.

Didn't catch any of the VFC shows, though. I have some recordings of some of em on my ipod.... Springsteen sitting in with R.E.M. alone is worth the download.

I think I saw Bright Eyes at a Bridge Benefit at some point, too.

[Hoyt]

131. I saw them in Atlanta 6 or so years ago with Gillian Welch as opening act in an big old theater.

Very good concert. Bright Eyes' band members were all dressed in white and the stage had all these flowers and white furniture that looked like a funeral.

In the same vein, I also like Todd Snider's "Conservative Christian, Right Wing, Republican, Straight, White, American Males"

[Drunken Irishman]

96. The comments section of XOJane is an awful cesspool.

Not a surprise.