Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 11:19 AM Jul 2014

"Obama Favors Warren Over Clinton": True or False?

If that Klein hit piece in the WP wasn't sufficiently smelly just on the merits of the author and the source, I offer the following (at the risk of raising the wrath of the DU chapter of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Dead Horses):

By Adam Chandler, The Wire
07 July 14


The New York Post leads with a story today about a secret plan for President Obama to throw his support behind Sen. Elizabeth Warren for the 2016 Democratic nomination instead of Hillary Clinton. Let's have a look at this.

Edward Klein writes:

Publicly, Obama has remained noncommittal on the 2016 race, but privately he worries that Clinton would undo and undermine many of his policies. There’s also a personal animosity, especially with Bill Clinton, that dates from their tough race six years ago."

I would say the first red flag here is that Obama, despite having initially campaigned from the left, has governed (to the frustration of some) largely from the center. This is where Hillary perches. This idea that a Clinton presidency would "undo and undermine" the president's policies just seems silly.


More at http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/24637-qobama-favors-warren-over-clintonq-true-or-false
20 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
"Obama Favors Warren Over Clinton": True or False? (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 OP
false samsingh Jul 2014 #1
Unknown HERVEPA Jul 2014 #2
originated with Murdoch's NY Post rurallib Jul 2014 #3
Not Only False, Sir, But Known To be False By The Hack Who Wrote It Up The Magistrate Jul 2014 #4
I absolutely agree. Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #7
False. The only thing different about Obama and Hillary is their gender. Autumn Jul 2014 #5
So next stop see FAUX news.... Historic NY Jul 2014 #6
Yes, it's fascinating--in a nauseating sort of way--to watch the process. Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #8
Don't care.... daleanime Jul 2014 #9
The author's contention that Obama and Hillary are "largely from the center" undermines his cred. Scuba Jul 2014 #10
Well, the center of the Overton Window, anyway. Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #11
Political babble. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #12
False Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #13
This is nothing but a cheap fiction written by a hack. herding cats Jul 2014 #14
No argument from me. Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #15
I hope I didn't come across as harsh. herding cats Jul 2014 #16
I posted this trying to short-circuit the BS. Some posters seem Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #17
Ed Klein is a BS king and a veteran of smear jobs. herding cats Jul 2014 #19
False, and obvious shit-stirring. Obama's not going to endorse anyone before we have a nominee. winter is coming Jul 2014 #18
deliberately false bigtree Jul 2014 #20

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
3. originated with Murdoch's NY Post
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 11:26 AM
Jul 2014

where there is less truth than FUX NOOZ.

like all Murdoch, this one is bullshit.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
4. Not Only False, Sir, But Known To be False By The Hack Who Wrote It Up
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 11:27 AM
Jul 2014

His purpose is to impede Sec. Clinton's election as President, and he thought this canard might contribute to his cause.

Autumn

(45,058 posts)
5. False. The only thing different about Obama and Hillary is their gender.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 11:28 AM
Jul 2014

That she would undo his policies is just stupid if anything she would cement them.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
6. So next stop see FAUX news....
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 11:31 AM
Jul 2014

its like joseph goebbels propaganda works , create a story, plant a story, get another news story about it out there and pretty sonn it true.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
11. Well, the center of the Overton Window, anyway.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 11:47 AM
Jul 2014

The Overton Window stretches from the far-left position of privatizing and reducing "entitlements" like Social Security, to the moderate-right position of eliminating them entirely.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
13. False
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 12:04 PM
Jul 2014

Politics is politics. Bill Clinton threw his support behind the President in 2012 and made one helluva speech at the convention. All of that was done in the reasonable expectation that the Obamas would support the Clintons in 2012. Also, the Rodhams are old-school Chicago politics, and the President has his roots there.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
14. This is nothing but a cheap fiction written by a hack.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 12:22 PM
Jul 2014

It's just another attempt to cut Hillary off at the knees before 2016 and try and create a divide among Democrats. This is just an example of the GOP's best laid plans for 2016. They seem to think they can toss out some BS here and there and they're going to string us along by our noses, just like they've done to their own base for decades.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
16. I hope I didn't come across as harsh.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 01:44 PM
Jul 2014

My reply wasn't directed to you personally, nor was it intended to be overly harsh. It just ticks me off when a Republican hack is trying to tell me what I should believe to help further their cause.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
17. I posted this trying to short-circuit the BS. Some posters seem
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 01:51 PM
Jul 2014

to have misunderstood my intent. Not you in particular.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
19. Ed Klein is a BS king and a veteran of smear jobs.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 02:13 PM
Jul 2014

I guess some folks here may not have known who he was before this. One thing is for sure, the ones who didn't will after today.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
18. False, and obvious shit-stirring. Obama's not going to endorse anyone before we have a nominee.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 01:51 PM
Jul 2014

Punning on "Warren" to imply "war"? That's bullshit. If both Warren and Clinton decide to throw their hats in the ring, that's not a war: it's a primary season.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»"Obama Favors Warren...