Pastor Rick Warren Wants Obama to Let Religious Groups Discriminate Against LGBT

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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/07/02/pastor-rick-warren-wants-obama-to-let-religious-groups-with-federal-contracts-discriminate-against-lgbt-americans/

Because it wasn’t enough for Hobby Lobby to deprive female employees of comprehensive contraception coverage, Rick Warren and more than a dozen other Protestant and Catholic leaders are now demanding that President Obama give religious companies with federal contracts the ability to discriminate against LGBT employees. Because if the Supreme Court can bend over backwards for Yahweh, so can Obama, right?

It all has to do with an upcoming executive order that Obama said he would sign. The order would ban all federal contractors from discriminating against employees because of their sexual orientation or gender identity. Because we don’t know what the order will say, the faith leaders are trying to make sure it doesn’t apply to religious groups. Because Jesus loves to discriminate. (The Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which the Senate passed last fall but the do-nothing House hasn’t acted upon, includes the religious exemption.)

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No church will be harmed if Obama doesn’t issue a religious exemption. If he does include it, though, he will be perpetuating the harm that many of these churches — including Warren’s Saddleback Church — have caused to people across the country.

Not very reachy-outy of him.

[shenmue]

1. What an arse

[Starry Messenger]

2. He's a stone-cold bigot.

Always has been and always will be.

[theHandpuppet]

3. Never thought this one would change his stripes

I'm sure he views the Hobby Lobby decision as a validation.

[Starry Messenger]

4. I agree.

I don't know why people thought he'd change his ways. That letter reads like he's been drafting it for weeks.

[Bluenorthwest]

5. It's just one little prayer.

That's what Rick Warren's defenders said to LGBT people when this bigot was rewarded for his hate speech with the honor of giving the Inaugural prayers. I will never forget that. But will they apologize? Of course not. Barack Obama called that bigot 'America's Minister' which is an insult to Americans, and to ministers when he selected this hate monger at the urgings of Josh DuBois, another hate monger.
Obama has never apologized for that insulting, crass piece of self indulgence by him and his Rickypoo.
He should.

[theHandpuppet]

7. Oh yeah, I remember that all right

Never did get apologies for that one, did we.

One little prayer.
Just like one "narrow" case.
Finally, I won't be holding my breath waiting for the apologies for those who wanted the leader of the RCC for president or attacked other women and LGBTs for speaking the truth about what was really going on.

[Starry Messenger]

9. I remember.

Quiet today, aren't they?

[KG]

6. but, but it's just a little prayer!

boy, how many time was that lame justification used right here on DU....

[theHandpuppet]

8. What do you want? A pony?

(insert photos of crying babies here)

[Bluenorthwest]

10. Enough with the poutrage!!!

Don't ruin the Inaugural for everybody else! So selfish!

[theHandpuppet]

12. Ah yes, I remember that one, too!

[riderinthestorm]

24. I had forgotten the "poutrage" smear but you're right. It was thrown hard and often

Those Rick Warren/inaugural prayer threads were huge...

[theHandpuppet]

30. I just read through some of those old McClurkin/Rick Warren threads from 2008

You know what's sad? I saw so many names there of LGBT DUers who are no longer with us here because they were literally driven from this "progressive" site by the vitriol. It really made me tear up.

[riderinthestorm]

31. From the very beginning of Obama's presidency, there's been a lot of flames here on DU

towards anyone who deviates from the party line.

I can hardly bear it and truly grieve those who decided to leave. Those threads however were pretty eye-opening and I don't blame them for leaving even as we celebrated Obama's victories.

[Bluenorthwest]

34. LGBT DUers were castigatged for simply advocating our own equality.

Some of the most ardent voices against LGBT rights and equality now pose here as champions of the cause.
Their own lack of any sense of personal accountability speaks much about their sort of politics.

[theHandpuppet]

36. Yeah, I noticed that, too

Amazing, ain't it.

[QC]

44. Yesterday's poutrage-shouter is today's Harvey Milk.

Yes, I have noticed it as well.

[RKP5637]

11. Creatures with loud megaphones. n/t

[edhopper]

13. Obama

made a mistake inviting him to speak the inauguration.

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14. The aftermath of people defending the choice like it was their child was even scarier, imo.

Some things are just wrong, and reading several days of posters trying to shine that turd was an eye-opening experience.

[edhopper]

15. I do not regret

volunteering and voting for Obama.
But that doesn't mean everything he does is right and needs to be defended.
He makes mistakes, some big, some small. This was a small one, but a mistake none the less.

[riderinthestorm]

18. +1. The pushback from DUers over that was fierce

Both towards those who objected because it was bigoted Rick Warren and towards atheists who objected that there was any prayer at all.

[Starry Messenger]

21. They're sure quiet today.

[riderinthestorm]

23. Those threads were many hundreds of posts long too.

With only a small number of us objecting to Rick Warren and many hundreds more telling us off for our "poutrage".

I'll be curious if anyone confesses to being wrong about that... now.

[Starry Messenger]

25. I'm curious too.

I'd like to think that if I were ever that spectacularly wrong about something, especially after digging in my heels about it, I'd have enough shame to cough up even a brief "I'm sorry."

[underpants]

16. Oh my (p)Rick - that's REALLY ironic coming from you

[Stellar]

17. OK, if he let everybody else discriminate

...against them.

[CrispyQ]

19. Rick Warren - another fuck I'd like to see choke on his dinner & croak.

Face first into your mashed potatoes, please, you despicable bigot.

Obama choosing this asshole for his invocation was a slap in the face.

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20. It certainly didn't alter his views or make him go away.

Two things that were claimed over and over as the "plus" to having him at the Inaug.

[LiberalElite]

27. It may have encouraged him nt

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28. Yeah, probably true. nt.

[MohRokTah]

22. They can discriminate, they just can 't do so while taking federal dollars

If Obama includes a religion exception, he might as well not issue an order at all. After Hobby Lobby, including the exception would mean ANY contractor could claim it.

[Bluenorthwest]

26. Of course Rick does not consider simply turning down contracts he sees as unethical or immoral

like many other people do, including myself. No, the money comes first, he speaks as if he is compelled to take that cash.
They know if they don't take the contracts, someone else will. Their own uselessness will be highlighted, the superiority of non religious social services will become clear as day.

[rufus dog]

29. All coordinated

Hobby Lobby donated some very valuable land to Warren. Warren is just being the front man for the group.

LAKE FOREST – Saddleback Church — headed by Pastor Rick Warren — has been given a 170-acre ranch in San Juan Capistrano from an Oklahoma City arts and crafts billionaire to help further Christian values by training pastors.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/church-310690-green-lobby.html

[theHandpuppet]

37. Wow... very interesting, that.

We'll see if this spurs a wider investigation.

[rufus dog]

38. Not sure what there is to investigate

They prop up Rick, he pushes the agenda.

[Dawson Leery]

45. Reminds me yet again why I steer clear of religious charities.

[Dawson Leery]

32. Again, Islamic Jihad has nothing on the Christian right.

The CR is an internal threat with real power to destroy this country.
In short, Rick Warren is worse than OBL and company.

[roody]

33. FYI, Rick Warren's son killed himself.

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40. I was aware of that.

Not sure how that relates here.

[muntrv]

35. Just say "No contract for you!"

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.608008760467785618&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0

[Initech]

39. He can share a bunk bed with Scott Lively in prison.

After they're both arrested for crimes against humanity for what they did to Uganda.

[Beaverhausen]

41. pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is a "religious company" & why do they have federal contracts?

Is it religious if one or more owners follows a certain religion? Is it a church? Help me out here.

[Starry Messenger]

42. I believe they are religious orgs that provide social services.

They get federal contracts for doing that kind of work.

[hatrack]

43. Ah, yes, Rick Warren, whose ass Obama had to kiss (for reasons that remain unclear) back in 08

"America's Pastor" or whatever.

Bite me, Rick.