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Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:18 PM

If you were to move to a European country... Which would you choose?

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Or you can blurt out any other country in the world you want to live in, but since I'm considering moving out of the U.S (I'm thinking Germany) someday, I'm curious to see where people would shoot for.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:18 PM

1. Netherlands!

I love the people and the countryside!

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Response to zappaman (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:10 PM

52. Same here

Would hang out with my in-laws!

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:19 PM

2. Italy

Already have homes there!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:21 PM

8. "Homes," PLURAL?!

 

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 03:24 AM

86. My husband is from there

He bought an apartment in Florence 20 years ago.
Then we bought a building together two years ago.
And he inherited his parents home in Acri.

Florence is a real possibility. His youngest sister lives there and we are close - so I will have a built in playmate!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #86)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 09:50 AM

112. Oh, MAAAAAN! I envy you to the Nth power! Firenze è bella!

 

I have very wonderful memories of a couple visits there with my husband.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #86)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 05:39 PM

153. My family is from Florence and I often think of just showing up for Sunday dinner and...

not ever leaving. It remains a possibility!

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #8)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 11:22 AM

174. Yeah! Nice post, Rmoney!

 

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:13 PM

55. I'm jealous!!

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:19 PM

3. France.

This tiny glitch they are having in their politics is just that. A glitch.

We are thinking Lyon. Paris, without all the tourists.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:20 PM

5. I love Lyon

They are so down to earth and kind there!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 04:44 AM

89. I know someone who did move to Lyon a year ago

and he loves it.

He's a teacher--from Kansas City area--and he's teaching in an International school
in Lyon.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 12:30 PM

146. Probably the best food in France

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:20 PM

4. Denmark.

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 10:21 PM

76. Me too!

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #4)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 10:11 PM

169. I lived there for three years, and I thought it was great.

Around Copenhagen, everyone speaks English, good for me because I'm bad at other languages . People are nice, especially the younger people. The weather can be crappy, but the summers are awesome.

My kids loved it there also. We moved when one was 11 and one was 5. They had so much freedom. My 11 year old was riding the train or taking the bus with a friend. All was good.

We are moving to Belgium on Sunday....can't wait to see what it's like there

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Response to all american girl (Reply #169)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 11:17 AM

172. Omg, I'm so jealous and happy for you at the same time

Lol goodluck

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #172)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 02:24 PM

182. Thanks SummerSnow

I have packers here taking my stuff away...or at least some for now

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:20 PM

6. England, specifically to Devon or Cornwall.

 

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:21 PM

7. Portugal

Beautiful, interesting, but somehow less haughty than many other European countries. Lots of coastline if you like that.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:21 PM

9. Wales, where my great grandfather came from

But I like where I live now. Other than the governor (Rick Scott) but that can change.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:23 PM

10. Berlin Or Dusseldorf In Germany; Amsterdam In The Netherlands.......

I get on quite well in Paris, France - but kind of think it would be too rich for me.

It would definitely be in Europe somewhere. People in Europe seem to know how to stay relaxed and enjoy life. When you go to an open air farmer's market in Europe - the veggies, fruit, breads, etc purchased just taste different and more vibrant and flavorful than anything I purchase here.

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Response to global1 (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:24 PM

11. What's Dusseldorf like?

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Response to Neoma (Reply #11)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:44 PM

24. I Go There Every Few Years For A Big Medical Products Show....

It's actually the biggest medical products show in the world. It's expensive for us attendees to stay there during this show - because all the hotels raise their prices and all the rooms get booked. I tend to stay further into the city away from the exhibit halls and in the smaller neighborhoods in Dusseldorf. I find it very charming and it reminds me of the small neighborhood I grew up in on the southwest side of Chicago in the 50's.

Everything you need is available along the small shops in the neighborhood. No big box stores. All small one owner type shops. I didn't find prices outrageous - in line or a bit cheaper than here in the Chicago area. The people are all friendly and you get a sense of community.

I been in Dusseldorf around Christmas time - and every small neighborhood in Dusseldorf has their own Christmas Markets. The food is good and the German beer is great.

Dusseldorf isn't Berlin though. Berlin is one of my favorite cities in Europe. But with the cosmopolitan young rebuilding of Berlin - all the amenities of a big U.S. city - comes the higher cost of living. Berlin is an exciting city. You can feel the energy as you walk around the city.

I could live very comfortably in Dusseldorf and from time to time train into Berlin for it's cosmopolitan atmosphere.

Oh - that's the other thing I like about Europe. Most of the cities are walking cities and their public transportation is top-notch and affordable. Getting around Europe in general is easy. Trains can take you just about anywhere. I look forward to taking the trains in Europe because they are so well run.

Last trip out a mother and her two young daughters were in the train car that I was in. They were well behaved and the mother made them whisper so as not to disturb other riders. I was impressed.

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Response to global1 (Reply #24)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:50 PM

30. I live in Chicago-land.

That makes a little easier for me to understand what you mean about the prices.

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Response to Neoma (Reply #11)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:42 PM

66. I visited a friend when he lived there.

Large concentration of Asians.
Which means sushi!
Not great sushi, but sushi nonetheless!

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Response to zappaman (Reply #66)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:47 PM

69. The problem I see with Germany...

Can't have duel citizenship apparently?

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Response to Neoma (Reply #69)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 04:52 AM

92. Looks to be the case

Associated news item here :


The German government on Tuesday signed off on a draft law that will allow young Germans of foreign origin to have dual citizenship, a move that relaxes some of Europe's strictest nationality laws and will benefit the large Turkish community.

Current rules oblige children of immigrants from most non-EU countries to choose at the age of 23 between German citizenship or that of their parents' country of origin.

The dual passport issue has long rankled among the roughly three million people of Turkish origin living in Germany, just under half of whom have taken German citizenship.

The draft law approved by the government allows young people to opt for two passports if, at the age of 21, they can prove they have lived in Germany for at least eight years, gone to school in the country for six years, gained school-leaving qualifications here or completed vocational training in Germany.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/08/us-germany-citizenship-idUSBREA3713Z20140408

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #92)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 07:41 AM

98. My daughters, 29 and 31 are dual citizens of Germany and the USA

But they have dual parentage (my wife is German), so they are allowed to keep both for life. Plus they were born here, and DID live and go to school here until age 16. The younger one has moved back here for work, while her sister, who lived in Germany longer, has settled in New York City.

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Response to Neoma (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:02 AM

102. I live in Düsseldorf now

Actually it's technically a suburb, although I'm closer to the Düsseldorf airport than most of Düsseldorf. You can google Ratingen if you want, and I have this in my back yard:
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The Düsseldorf area is generally VERY expensive. It is a favorite of the Japanese, and the real estate section of the Saturday newspaper always says "Japanese companies looking for houses for their executives, any price."

Disadvantages--the weather is often lousy, German bureaucracy is slow, unfeeling, uncaring, and often very nasty. A cop recently fined a one-handed bicycle rider for having his brake on the left instead of on the right, even though he didn't have a right arm. The cops DID refund the money and apologize after the local paper made a big stink about it, but still WTF?? I mean, OK, in New Mexico, they would have shot him dead, but this is not supposed to be New Mexico. It is VERY expensive to live here, so have a job lined up with a work permit, marry a German citizen, or bring an inheritance with you. Petty crime is up, and the cops are NOT in the slightest interested in going after the bad guys, and won't help much those who are victims. If you're getting a car, be prepared for sticker shock with both insurance and gas (like $7.50 a gallon upwards).

LEARN GERMAN. If you don't become proficient in German in Germany, your social life will be about as interesting as that of someone living in Dallas who only speaks German.

Advantages--most German cities are divided up into small communities and often strong personal bonds are formed. We have a group of friends with whom we all leave our house keys. The open air markets are wonderful, and the small shops really do make a place liveable--although greed is forcing them to close right and left. Alone in our town of Ratingen, greedy renters forced several of our favorite places to close, and put in national chains of cell phone stores, McTravel bureaus and insurance company outlets. VERY depressing. Public transportation is usually (though not always!) very reliable and frequent, though expensive. The city of Düsseldorf has some just delightful areas, and the outlying areas are mostly nice, too. It is VERY popular as a residential area, so if you have children and want them in a Kindergarten or school, start early on enrolling them. D'Dorf has a great airport and train station, and while trains are expensive, many airlines offer GREAT trips in and out of here to almost everywhere. BIG plus!!

Note--despite what some may say, there is NOT universal health insurance here. You have to arrange for your own health insurance if your employer doesn't specifically offer it (though if it is a German employer, I think they are required to). Germany has a patchwork system. If you make too much, you can be on the hook for as much as $20,000 a year out of your own pocket for health insurance. Most people do have it, though, but it is not automatic in many cases. Don't assume it is.

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Response to DFW (Reply #102)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 09:58 AM

113. I'd be happy

to live in NM! That's my goal for the future. Northern NM.

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Response to PasadenaTrudy (Reply #113)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:03 AM

114. I've never been to that part of NM

But everyone I know who has been there says it is beautiful. Valerie Plame moved there with her husband, Joe, after the Cheney/Rove debacle, and she said she loves it there.

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Response to DFW (Reply #114)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:05 AM

116. I visit every so often

This Fall I'll be in Santa Fe for a week. Hoping for some cold weather! L.A. is hot all year round.

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Response to PasadenaTrudy (Reply #116)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:12 AM

118. Different strokes for different folks

After the German Rheinland, I'm ready for some heat!

As it is, from what I understand, I'm flying into a hurricane tomorrow. Of all the lousy luck!

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Response to DFW (Reply #118)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:15 AM

120. Be safe!

My friend just flew into CA out of NYC just in the nick of time.
I spent some time in Germany near Frankfurt back in the 90s. Loved the weather, lol!

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Response to PasadenaTrudy (Reply #120)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:31 AM

122. NEAR Frankfurt is as nice as IN Frankfurt sn't.

The Taunus hills outside town are like having a little Berkshire Mountains in your back yard.

If we get diverted to NYC or Montreal tomorrow, our whole first week of vacation will be off to one very lousy start.

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Response to global1 (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 10:45 PM

80. Amsterdam would be the last place I'd go

I don't know why, but I don't like that city, ever since I first visited it around 1970. I've been back a number of times and haven't grown to like it any more.

The government is quite conservative; they decimated the arts there with their austerity budget; and I don't particularly like the people (and yes, I've met real Amsterdamers, been in their houses). I do like the new library there. So count me out for Amsterdam. Surprisingly, I'd prefer Rotterdam.

I guess I'd go to France or Belgium, if only because I speak the language, and lived in Paris for a while--though a long time ago. I also like Vienna and Prague, though I have no connections particularly. The food in Prague sucks, though ... so that would be a problem.

My family roots are in Hungary and what is now Belarus -- um, no thanks to both.

I think I'm in for Paris or Brussels.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #80)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 10:19 AM

139. interesting pov. My daughter in law is from Das Hague, and they're doing their annual holiday there

 

now. My very young granddaughters, (age 5 1/2 and 3 1/2) speak both Dutch and English (as well as a bit of Spanish).. Family keeps a flat in Das Hague for holidays, but they also do B&B someplace in Belgium. They go every summer, while I house-sit for them while they're away. Every year. I think I'd like to go with them next year and get someone else to house sit.

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Response to global1 (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 04:48 AM

90. My youngest son has been in Berlin since last September on a Fulbright

and is coming back to the US on Saturday for grad school.

We went to Europe twice while he was there:

Vienna, Salzburg, Prague, Berlin, London, Paris, Berlin, Stockholm, Copenhagen.


Out of all those places, I felt most 'at home' in Vienna. Nice smaller city,
great transportation, not as expensive as many other places, and I thought
people were a bit more friendly.

Unless you speak French, I think anywhere in France would be tough.
LOTS of people speaking English in Vienna and Berlin.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:25 PM

12. It'd have to be Luxembourg.

I have family there and so meet that criterion for emigration to an EU country.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:26 PM

13. I'm a dual Irish and American citizen

 

So any EU country...

(cause I hate Ireland's abortion laws and patriarchal attitudes....)



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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:27 PM

14. If I could afford to go, back to Vienna.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #14)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:01 PM

43. Me too.

Meetcha there. For coffee and a pastry.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 04:49 AM

91. Yes, see my post #90

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 8, 2014, 12:38 AM

187. I would love to go back to Vienna!

I don't think I have ever cried so hard in my life as when I had to leave there. I fell in love with the city. I never wanted to leave. I would give anything to be able to live there again.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #187)

Tue Jul 8, 2014, 12:40 AM

188. FYI, I lived there for a semester in University.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:27 PM

15. France, as in Bordeaux

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:28 PM

16. I think Sweden or Norway

They seem to be pretty together on people policies.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #16)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:47 PM

28. Both are fantastic!

I stayed in Oslo and traveled over mountains to Bergen. I went on a boat in the Fjords!

I also loved my trip to Malmo from Copenhagen (Denmark). Denmark is great!

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #28)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:53 PM

33. Saw a Rick Steves show sailing through the fjords

I so want to see them!

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Response to rurallib (Reply #16)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:20 PM

58. Same here!

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Response to rurallib (Reply #16)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 09:16 AM

110. More than many, but still there are challenges for non-whites

The racial tensions behind Sweden’s idyllic facade

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/6/sweden-refugees-racismstockholm.html

June 9, 2014 12:30AM ET by Sam Piranty

Last month, I went to Stockholm on a reporting trip. The city seemed idyllic: bicycles aplenty standing unlocked outside at night, Volvos with their doors open and engines running, and not a cigarette butt in sight. In trendy Hornstull, bearded bros high-fived each other over Brooklyn craft beers. But everyone, it seemed, was white.

I got chatting with some of these happy hipsters and asked where I might find some of the million Somalis, Kurds, Iraqis, Chileans and Syrians who began arriving in the ’70s seeking asylum in what many perceived to be a Scandinavian “paradise.” Ever since, Sweden’s immigrant population has largely reflected wherever there has been conflict or unrest in the world. “They live in the suburbs, at the end of the blue metro line,” Karl informed me, adjusting his sunglasses in the dimly lit bar. “Don’t go there now, though, it's pretty dangerous. They’re pretty angry, and it's nighttime; black people get pretty angry when there’s no sun.”

“Don’t you think that’s pretty racist?” I asked. Karl hesitated for a moment, shooting a look at his drinking companion before removing his Ray-Bans and turning back to me. “I’m not racist,” he said. “I’m Swedish.”

My time in Sweden suggested that Karl’s articulation of the apparent exclusivity of these two concepts was not an anomaly confined to late-night drinking. Sweden proclaims itself to be an inclusive and tolerant society despite its segregated cities, racial inequality and Islamophobia. But that’s false. One only has to look at the main entrance to the Central Mosque in the middle of Stockholm to see the remains of the swastikas painted on the doors. The rise of the far right, and the entrance of the Sweden Democrats into Sweden’s parliament, have created a space to further isolate those who don’t look “Swedish.” Twice in central Stockholm, when accompanied by two Swedish-born Somalis, I was told to go back to my own country. Recent statistics show a large increase in hate crimes against Muslims, Jews, African-born residents and the Roma community.

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What's sad is that with all this, Sweden is STILL a better place for many of these oppressed groups than most of the world.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:29 PM

17. I have relatives in Denmark Germany and Switzerland, probably in Ireland and Scotland

and I worked in Brazil for a year so I sort of speak Portuguese.

So I'd probably go to Sweden.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:29 PM

18. Denmark or Scotland.

I like Amsterdam, too.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:31 PM

19. Scotland!

Scotland is good to its people. Also try Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man.

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #19)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:39 PM

23. Scotland for me, too.

Been there twice, and have alays felt drawn to it, even before visiting. My middle name is Elliott, so I may be a member of the Elliot clan. I know it is spelled in a variety of ways - Eliot, Elliot, and Elliott. Not sure about any significance of the number of "Ls" and "Ts".

I LOVE bagpipes and kilts. I even like haggis.

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Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #23)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:45 PM

25. Scottish people are very nice

Their education system is great. They are lovely with old people. My relatives live in Ayrshire. My great Aunt used to live in Edinburgh. One of the best evenings I spent was cruising on Loch Lomond in a little boat. I would love to visit the Scottish Islands.

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #25)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:54 PM

36. Scotland first choice for me also.

Very friendly people, English speaking, beautiful landscapes, progressive social policies, peaceful, settled culture, and my Scottish ancestors call to me from the highlands.

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Response to northoftheborder (Reply #36)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:53 AM

106. English speaking? You sure about that?

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Response to tkmorris (Reply #106)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:49 AM

124. On my one brief visit to Scotland, everyone I came in contact with spoke English...

.....however, the Scottish accent is somewhat hard to understand sometimes! Also, different words for various things (as in England)! I found EVERYONE I met totally friendly and charming. Great wit, and music!

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Response to northoftheborder (Reply #124)

Sat Jul 5, 2014, 09:31 PM

125. There are some who still speak Scottish Gaelic

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #125)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 05:11 PM

148. How delightful, to hear Scottish Gaelic. In my imagination it would sound lilting and musical.

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #19)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:05 PM

48. Count me in

Any place with mountains and year-round cool weather sounds like heaven to me and they have gay marriage!

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Response to theHandpuppet (Reply #48)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 06:30 AM

94. Same here.

Love cool weather, mountains, and marriage equality. I guess Scotland's the place for me, too.

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #19)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:51 PM

71. +1

 

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #19)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 05:38 PM

152. North Berwick

 

Ancestral home of the Redan.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:32 PM

20. Warm ...Costa Rica

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #20)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:36 PM

21. I love Costa Rica.

It's beautiful down there.

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #20)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:03 PM

45. I can't find Costa Rica in the Mediterranean.

Which European area is it in, exactly?

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:36 PM

22. Is Iceland Europe?

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Response to Blue_In_AK (Reply #22)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:48 PM

29. It's....a weird europeon like island in the middle of nowhere.

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Response to Neoma (Reply #29)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:22 PM

59. I think I would have to be somewhere Alaska-like,

so it would either by Iceland or somewhere Scandinavian, preferably Norway.

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Response to Blue_In_AK (Reply #22)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:00 PM

42. i think officially considered part of europe even though geographically

it could be questionable.

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Response to Blue_In_AK (Reply #22)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 05:10 AM

93. Geographically, it's half European

You can cross a bridge between America and Europe: http://icelandreview.com/stuff/multimedia/2011/11/07/bridge-between-two-continents

Culturally, it had no inhabitants before the Norse settlers, so it's European. It's a member of the Council of Europe, the European Free Trade Association, the European Economic Area, and the Schengen (borders/customs) area, and had applied to join the European Union, but has suspended the application since people don't seem so keen.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:46 PM

26. Metz France nt

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:46 PM

27. Ireland, where most of my ancestors were from

And where I can worship the Old Gods at Their sacred sites.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:50 PM

31. If it had to be Europe, it would be Spain or Italy.

 

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Response to Vattel (Reply #31)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:53 PM

34. Why Spain?

I'm learning Spanish right now in central America, but I want to know if Spain would be a good country to live in...

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Response to Neoma (Reply #34)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:57 PM

39. if you like warm weather, beach, food, art, other culture, spain would easily fit

i pick norway because i don't care for warm weather much.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #39)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:07 PM

50. Might be an odd question...

Good literature? People like reading there?

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Response to Neoma (Reply #50)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:39 PM

65. they have a lot of great literature, can't say how much people read right now

i would assume it's probably higher than the US and probably UK.

but it's the type of country where you would probably enjoy many public places where you can just relax and read .

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Response to Vattel (Reply #31)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:10 AM

117. I used to live in Spain long ago

Well, Spain, sorta. Catalunya. Still Spain for now, anyway. Rather different from the rest of Spain. I lived with a Catalan family, so I learned to speak Catalan, which is now the official language there (I lived there under the end of fascist dictatorship, when schools, newspapers and television in Catalan were still forbidden).

I've been back quite a lot lately, but only in Barcelona. Madrid never did anything for me. I loved San Sebastain (Donostia) and Granada, but Grenada was too hot for me and Donostia got too much rain for my taste.

I could definitely see moving back to Barcelona if I had some reason to. It's one of the few places I frequently go for work where my wife has no problem at all coming with me.

Although I've been to Italy once or twice and speak the language, I really don't know much about living there at all.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:52 PM

32. Spain for the climate and the food. Portugal for climate and sane drug laws making low crime rate

Iceland, Norway or the Netherlands for reasonably sane government, although the far right is now gaining traction in the latter. Xenophobia sells.

France for the language and the food, probably Strasbourg, where part of my family is from.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:54 PM

35. Norway

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Response to JI7 (Reply #35)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:32 PM

64. Me, too.

Norway.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:55 PM

37. Spain, specifically Barcelona.

Alternatively, Corsica, but they have a rule you have to be resident for five years before you can buy real estate because the locals were getting priced out. My niece did offer to "take one for the team" on that one. Generous of her.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:55 PM

38. Netherlands or France

Get back to my roots, ya know.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:59 PM

40. Czech Republic

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:00 PM

41. Either Greece or southern Spain.

Whichever is closest to the equator and warmest seas. Because livable warmth and high humidity is more important than anything to me

Also, the further south you go, the better off you'll be as the oceans warm. Climatologists are predicting that storms will form earlier in the Atlantic, which means they'll have more staying power as they loop over to middle and northern Europe

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:01 PM

44. Switzerland

They don't start wars.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #44)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:03 PM

46. Most natives know about 3 languages minimum from what I understand.

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Response to Neoma (Reply #46)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:24 PM

61. Three languages fluently

And usually more.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #44)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:05 PM

49. Just "star" wars

Thanks to CERN

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:04 PM

47. Italy

 

Despite all the problems they're having I love that country.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:08 PM

51. Germany, because I know a little bit of the language and most of my family still lives there

 

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:10 PM

53. My wife is originally from Poland, so.....

 

that would make things easier. And I've enjoyed the time we've spent in Krakow as well as the countryside village her grandmother lives in.

I don't think we'll ever do this, but it would make the most sense for us if we ever did.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:12 PM

54. Italy

Nt

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:15 PM

56. Switzerland.

Spent some time there and thoroughly enjoyed it. I lived in Germany (Bavaria) for a couple of years, and I would rate it a close second.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:15 PM

57. Norway, probably, or maybe Scotland.

Might be able to find some shirttail relatives in either place.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:23 PM

60. France

 

I understand the language and love the people and their health care system.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:25 PM

62. .ch or .uk

Confoederatio Helvetica

The best of Italy, Germany and France all rolled up in one not so big Alpine Paradise

Can't beat the trains

or the scenery


England if that didn't work

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:28 PM

63. Where I could be just another Euro-peon.

 

LOL.

Please correct.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:45 PM

67. Probably England

It has everything I like except enough sun. I suppose there would be regular trips to the mainland.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:46 PM

68. Switzerland.

Fits my pacifist beliefs, beautiful country, and I recently traced my ancestry back there.

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Response to Terra Alta (Reply #68)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 11:06 PM

81. Switzerland for sure.

Most beautiful place I've ever been.

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Response to Terra Alta (Reply #68)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:06 AM

103. UK only because it would be the easiest -

but I'd live in Monte Carlo in a second if I could afford it.

(sorry - I replied to Switzerland by mistake - although I would also consider that beautiful country!)

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:48 PM

70. A popular question (which is fine): my auto-answer - France

 

Since I speak French and studied in Paris as a student.

But having said that, I wouldn't agree if it were some regions of France - for example, Alsace-Lorraine makes good food and wine, but the people are kind of racist, IMHO. Burgundy is one of the most naturally beautiful regions of France, and with also terrific gastronomic delights, but not much going on there, for a single person.

If I were moving to Europe, it'd be one of the popular cities - London, Paris, Berlin, or my personal favorite, Marseilles. I've been to about a dozen European countries, and let's let it suffice to say Italy is not one of my favorite places, nor is Poland. (Though of course, everywhere you go possesses some parochial charms; you just have to look for them.)

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Response to closeupready (Reply #70)

Sat Jul 5, 2014, 10:19 PM

128. Marseilles?

 

I was shocked to see anyone pick that city in France or Europe for that matter. I found that to be the dirtiest and nastiest city in Europe. That proves that we all have different opinions of places. I would never return to the city much less live there.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #128)

Sat Jul 5, 2014, 11:20 PM

133. OMG, I loved it there - the food, people, clothes, climate, on the Mediterranean.

 

It's funny sometimes, but the places I like best are frequently places that nobody else likes, lol. That must be due to my weirdness, but love it there I did.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #133)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 12:04 AM

134. That what I love about all of us!

 

Enjoy when you get back there!!!!!

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:52 PM

72. Germany

 

Along the Mosul or Rhine River, near Saarbrucken, from where my ancestors left to immigrate to the US in 1710.

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Response to oldhippie (Reply #72)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 10:34 AM

142. Mosel

 

Mosul is in Iraq

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Response to tabasco (Reply #142)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 12:17 PM

144. Oops!

 

Too much of that nice white wine.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:52 PM

73. I'd go....

..To that other America that Barack Obama seems to be the president of. You know, the one where there was an economic recovery? And where there is apparently a middle class that he mentions so much.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 10:13 PM

74. Scotland

because that's my ethnic background and I was just there last week

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 10:16 PM

75. GERMANY

 

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 10:28 PM

77. First choice, Wales. Second, Scotland. Third, Norway. Except I love my state so much.

And when you get older, they don't want you unless you have family there. Mine are all long gone, but I have friends in Norway, Wales and Sussex.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 10:29 PM

78. I'd alternate between a apartment in Malta and a small lodge in Liechtenstein....

in my fantasy.....

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 10:30 PM

79. The United Kingdom

Somewhere in southern England, where my ancestors came from. I have made one visit to that wonderful kingdom, and it felt like coming home.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 12:12 AM

82. Norway

I still have some distant relatives there, and the language is supposed to be pretty close to english, at least as far as grammar.

Of course, not going to move there - I love Oregon, and I got over the whole "grass is always greener" thing years ago. People are pretty close to the same wherever you go. I would like to visit someday.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 02:25 AM

83. Almost anywhere,

where health care is a basic human right. But probably one of the Scandinavian countries as they make the best use of tax dollars with services to the citizens as opposed to spending most of the tax money on the US war machine.

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Response to area51 (Reply #83)

Sat Jul 5, 2014, 10:23 PM

129. Not a biggie

 

They definitely spend their tax money on social issues, but you will be paying 60 percent to the nation and another 15 to the local. Then you have the VAT and sales Tax. Plus everything is expensive. However, if your ideal is to help others then those countries are for you. As long as you can live on 25 percent before buying a thing then you are good to go. For example, my pension is 4,000 a month so I have about 1200 euros to live on. Gas is 8 dollars a gallon AT LEAST.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 02:51 AM

84. Sweden, Norway, Denmark, or Finland.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 02:58 AM

85. Spain or Portugal

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Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #85)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 07:50 AM

101. I loved Barcelona. Without a prescription you can walk into a pharmacy and ask

 

for bustaid and they sell it to you dirt cheap!

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 03:34 AM

87. Spain, Portugal, Italy or Greece

Not in any specific order....even South of France. 😃

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Response to maddezmom (Reply #87)

Sat Jul 5, 2014, 10:45 PM

131. Ditto!

Even though I've only been to one of those four (Italy) I love the southern Mediterranean culture. And the men. Yes, I'm that shallow!

Don't stone me people, I'm happily married! Even if I do occasionally have impure thoughts involving Cristiano Ronaldo, a bottle of wine and a secluded beach

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Response to eissa (Reply #131)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 09:02 AM

137. I hear

But I am single . 😃

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 04:39 AM

88. United Kingdom

Dorset England to be precise. That's because I did live there for 10 years and I really miss it ....

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 07:33 AM

95. As much as the country has taken crap for immigrant's families mistreatment of girls and women

my choice would be Sweden. I visited there 13 years ago and loved it. Second place would be The Netherlands.

I'd be interested to see the same question asked about Asia since that's where I live.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #95)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 10:39 AM

143. Life is pretty good

here! The politics are a lot less insane than the USA's, so you have peace of mind for that reason as well.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 07:38 AM

96. Necessary to learn German to move to Germany?

I understand that English is widely spoken there, but I thought it was a requirement to be fluent in German in order to live there?

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Response to GOLGO 13 (Reply #96)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:27 AM

121. Complete fluency will not be required, but you do have to demonstate proficiency.

Most people know a few words of English, some speak it well, BUT.....

If you're going to move here without speaking German, it's like moving to Boston speaking only German. Sure, there are a lot of academics there, and you can always find someone who speaks German, but how far is someone going to get moving to Boston speaking ONLY German? That's how far you'll get trying to move to Germany without speaking German. Even though I'm married to a German citizen, I still had to pass a language test before they gave me a residence permit.

Also, like a German trying to move to the USA, you can't just get off the plane and say, "Hi, here I am and I'm staying." You need to show a steady job (or big personal wealth), a place to live, health insurance, get a background check, the whole nine yards. I had the job, the health insurance, a legitimate family reason (tired of commuting to my job, and to spend more time with my wife who stayed a German resident), language proficiency, financial security, and they still made me go through hoops.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 07:39 AM

97. Corfu, Greece I spent a month there when I was in the Navy. Check out this video

 

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 07:47 AM

99. Canada.

I don't know enough about any European country to choose. I'd have to do a nice, long, extended tour of Europe to investigate.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 07:48 AM

100. Probably Finland, because it's much like Karelia...

Karelia is beautiful, at least to me, it's much like northern MN, a bit economically depressed, and with a seacoast rather than a great lake.

Unfortunately, it's also part of the Russian Federation which with Putin would stop me from going there to live.

Finland is right next door, similar biome and has a 'hot dish/pot' culture and social politics.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:33 AM

104. Argentina, I've always wanted to walk Patagonia. nt

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Response to bemildred (Reply #104)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 09:40 AM

111. Aw, you're playing teabagger here now, aren't you? nt

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:45 AM

105. I did.

I met my now-wife online, some years ago, and came to the UK to visit and ended up staying (somehow, the idea that she might come to the USA instead was never really discussed as an option).

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:54 AM

107. I've Heard Denmark is Nice

Definitely would be looking at a Scandanavian country.

Iceland is the place many hold up as the success story for the "%99"

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 09:00 AM

108. I'd go cruising all around the Mediterranean for a year or two

or three.

No one country, and not for permanently.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 09:07 AM

109. Reunion

Technically part of France, but really an Indian Ocean paradise.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:03 AM

115. Scandi countries are too pro-natalist

for childfree me. They really push the breeding. I have a Norwegian friend who lives here in L.A. half the year. She despises Norway. If you are blond, blue-eyed, and want kids, I suppose you'll fit right in. They are getting pretty anti foreigner there, certain foreigners anyways..

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Response to PasadenaTrudy (Reply #115)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 07:47 PM

165. They are large, sparsely populated countries.

Probably why they are so natalist.


And anti-foreigner? what? I thought they were very tolerant countries?

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:12 AM

119. England, because we're familiar with it. And, it's lovely.

 

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #119)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 01:12 PM

147. It is that.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:47 AM

123. Don't come to France, because it's no more the beatifull land

 

we used to be. it has become the land of Facists and Morons.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sat Jul 5, 2014, 09:37 PM

126. To Scotland or Sweden.

My maternal relatives came from Inverary Castle in Scotland. I'd love to live in the area.

My paternal relatives are from Sweden an many cousins are still alive.

If the Republicans take over the White House, House and Senate, I'll have to see if they'll rent me a room.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sat Jul 5, 2014, 09:38 PM

127. Finland n/t

 

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sat Jul 5, 2014, 10:29 PM

130. How do you know they'll want you?

Most Western European countries, even the social democratic ones, are far less accommodating of immigrants than we are.

I suppose, because you posted this here, you're thinking of leaving because you're "fed up"? Personally, I'm going to keep fighting for the country I want to live in.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #130)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 08:05 AM

171. Interesting assumption.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sat Jul 5, 2014, 10:45 PM

132. The island of Corsica, France

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It's one of the most beautiful places on Earth. It's green and has a very temperate Mediterranean climate. In the various small cities and towns like Bastia and Ajaccio it has every modernity you could wish for, especially modern hospitals. But to me the wonderful thing is that it has less than 300,000 people on an island about the size of Puerto Rico. In the mountains there are tiny towns where almost no one lives and where living is cheap. You can get away from the freeways, the congestion, the pollution, the noise, the door and telephone solicitors, the things that make modern life on the anthill of civilization so miserable.



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Sun Jul 6, 2014, 12:46 AM

135. If I had the financial resources: London, UK

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Response to emsimon33 (Reply #135)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 02:13 PM

180. Probably the same for me, too. Scotland would be next on the list.

With LOTS of travel.

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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #180)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 02:54 PM

185. Traveling from London is very inexpensive--another good reason

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 02:02 AM

136. Lillyhammer! nt

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Sun Jul 6, 2014, 09:25 AM

138. My plan is for Spain.

 

I speak the language. I love the culture, food and the women are beautiful. I've considered applying to a "teach English" program to get an entry visa.

I speak English too but the UK seems to be going the same shitty direction as the US...depending on the result of the Scottish referendum, that might be an option as-well...especially if they institute some form of "right of return" for people of Scottish descent abroad as a means of boosting population and importing the necessary increase in educated workforce.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 10:21 AM

140. Germany.

I speak the language. I love the beautiful countryside, towns, villages, and cities.

And I love the people and the culture.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 10:27 AM

141. Luxembourg

 

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Sun Jul 6, 2014, 12:29 PM

145. Italy or Norway I have family in both countries and enjoyed my time visiting those countries

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Sun Jul 6, 2014, 05:31 PM

149. I've never been, and I live in Canada which I like fine but I'd choose the UK or France

France - because that's where my ancestors are from and I speak French (though probably not as well as they would expect me to, lol, I speak a more Quebec slang type of French but did learn Parisian French in school) and I love good fresh food...and the climate is more mild than where I am currently.

And England because I just feel like that's where I belong. I don't know why. Whenever I see programs about England I feel like that's where I'm from and that's where I belong. I feel like I 'get' the culture. I do have issues with rain, though, so....lol. I wouldn't live in London - it would be somewhere else, smaller city or town.

There's really no where else in the world I'd like to live. Canada, UK or France is about it for me. I'm not a fan of heat and beaches, so that rules out anything tropical. And the Scandinavian countries are too much like Canada with regards to climate so...UK or France it is.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 05:33 PM

150. If it were more calm there,

and if I were fluent in Russian, I might move to Ukraine (Donetsk) since I met a girl who is from there.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 05:36 PM

151. Ireland

 

Ballybunion, Lahinch, Royal County Down. I'd spend January in Nice.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 05:40 PM

154. Ireland

I love it there. The problem would be choosing here in Ireland to live. Perhaps somewhere on the Ring of Kerry. That of course assumes I don't need a job.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 05:42 PM

155. I love to dream

But doubt I could afford it.

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Sun Jul 6, 2014, 05:45 PM

156. HOGWARTS

The best European location of them all.

Sry muggles...


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Sun Jul 6, 2014, 05:48 PM

157. Is there a place where it's usually around 74 degrees and mostly sunny and there are no

teabagger types? A place with universal public healthcare and plenty of decent jobs? A place where art and music are highly valued and reason rules over gossip and mob mentality. If there's a country like that, let me know.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 05:55 PM

158. I have zero desire to move to Europe.

If I were to move out of the country I would head south.....somewhere with mountains.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 05:58 PM

159. Does already moved count?

I left New England for England and do not regret it in the least.

However I don't understand why England is associated with a gloomy rainy climate. It was worse in the northeast US tbh!

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 06:08 PM

160. Vermont

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Sun Jul 6, 2014, 07:17 PM

162. Which language do you want to learn? n/t

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Response to moondust (Reply #162)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 07:32 PM

163. I'm in Guatemala learning Spanish at the moment.

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Response to Neoma (Reply #163)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 07:57 PM

166. That would help

especially in southern Europe.



By the way, is it dangerous where you are now? That is being cited as the reason a lot of kids are migrating north to the U.S. Just wondered...

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Response to moondust (Reply #166)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 08:36 PM

167. There isn't a civil war here at the moment if that's what you mean.

I'm not in a gang ridden town.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 07:44 PM

164. If I knew the language, Iceland or the Ukraine.

Otherwise, the UK or Ireland, just because of English.

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Response to PlanetaryOrbit (Reply #164)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 08:39 PM

168. It's a bad idea to be in Ukraine at the moment.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 10:25 PM

170. Sunday we are moving to Brussels, Belgium

Hubby is in the Army, and this is our 4th country outside the US...Japan, Denmark, Germany and now Belgium. I loved Denmark best, but everyone tells me that I will LOVE Belgium....chocolate, beer, wine, cheese, pastries...I'm going to get really fat

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Response to all american girl (Reply #170)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 02:16 PM

181. Are Belgians fat, like Americans are fat?

You'll be fine. Walk! Sounds like a great opportunity, enjoy.

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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #181)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 02:28 PM

183. No, I think we are the only ones this fat....

though where I lived in Germany, some were starting to look like us....ummmmmm, beer, sausages, rolls...sorry, just remembering

Bike will be packed, and I'm going to look for a house that I can walk to shops and stuff...and I will be working out, just so I can enjoy

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Response to all american girl (Reply #183)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 02:46 PM

184. Sounds wonderful.

I'm now thinking of "In Bruges" of course, the fairytale town with the nooks and crannies.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 11:20 AM

173. Well, the UK has the edge at the moment

 

Not that I'm unadventurous or anything, but my saucy, potty-mouthed socialist anti-royalist female FB friend is just outside Manchester.

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Mon Jul 7, 2014, 12:45 PM

175. Luxembourg...

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 12:49 PM

176. France, the Pas de Calais area, where my g'parents were from

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 01:12 PM

177. In Europe? Probably Germany.

But I've looked over the NZ emigration requirements for 'skilled immigrants', and actually added two more college degrees to add to my 'points total' that would count towards qualifying.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 01:16 PM

178. I don't know if there'd be any European country I'd want to *live* in, but plenty I'd like to visit.

I'd like to see Poland and Ukraine due to my family roots, but I don't think I'd want to live in either one at this time. Especially not Ukraine given the current volatile situation there.

Problem is, Europe is rather cold. Even the warmer parts aren't especially warm in the winter. And I'm just not a cold weather guy.

If there was any European country I'd live in....maybe Italy. Incredibly food and history, and temperate enough in its climate. (I could probably say the same for Greece, but Italy seems every so slightly more functional as a country, so I'll stick with that.)

In general, probably the country I'd be happiest moving to would be Belize. From all accounts, it looks very beautiful.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 02:09 PM

179. Norway

I make some mean lefse.

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Response to Neoma (Original post)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 02:57 PM

186. One of the Scandinavian Countries..

Not sure which.

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