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Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:12 PM Apr 2012

Woman Tells 13 Y.O. Go-Cart Rider “You Don’t Belong In This Neighborhood,” hits him head-on in Jeep

Texas Woman Tells 13-Year-Old Go Cart Rider “You Don’t Belong In This Neighborhood” After Jumping Curb In Her Jeep To Hit Him Head On

http://bossip.com/568102/more-racial-profiling-texas-woman-tells-13-year-old-go-cart-rider-you-dont-belong-in-this-neighborhood-after-jumping-curb-in-her-jeep-to-hit-him-head-on30346/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+bossiprss+%28Bossip.com%29#



“You don’t belong in this neighborhood!

These are the words that Jules Moor, a 13-year old black child, says that Deanna Johnson, a middle-aged white female, said to him after Johnson slammed her 2011 Jeep Wrangler into his go-cart on Tuesday, March 13, 2012.

According to Jules, Johnson got out of her vehicle and confronted the boys in a hostile and threatening manner yelling “Where do you live? Who are your parents?” while shaking her finger at the kids. Jules goes on to say, “With all due respect, Ma’am, I live down the street,” to which Johnson allegedly tells him that she didn’t care and that she was calling the police.

Johnson was not arrested or drug-tested upon the admission of her actions. The Sheriff’s department Captain that came on the scene decided not to arrest Johnson upon consulting with the District Attorney.
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Woman Tells 13 Y.O. Go-Cart Rider “You Don’t Belong In This Neighborhood,” hits him head-on in Jeep (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 OP
Here we go again, or more probably still. WTF is happening to this country anyway? n/t teddy51 Apr 2012 #1
FOX NEWS nt abelenkpe Apr 2012 #7
See this... MrMickeysMom Apr 2012 #56
i dont see a hoodie on Jules Enrique Apr 2012 #2
Oh joy! I wanna be like George Zimmerman! muntrv Apr 2012 #3
that's vehicular assault.... mike_c Apr 2012 #4
Assault With A Deadly Weapon... WillyT Apr 2012 #13
I don't get it. It sure was vehicular assault in TX, also assault with a deadly weapon. The woman freshwest Apr 2012 #19
I read the article at link. She claims that the go-cart hit her car after she stopped. yardwork Apr 2012 #24
Okay, these are different stories from the two. The kids could have been acting up, freshwest Apr 2012 #33
Not an excuse to kill them, though. mainer Apr 2012 #98
Did I say that? freshwest Apr 2012 #99
If you read the whole story at the link cyglet Apr 2012 #26
I mentioned that in one of these posts. Read the thread. freshwest Apr 2012 #106
She is not insane. obxhead Apr 2012 #102
Agreed. I just want to cover all the bases, like her defense attorney would to get her off. freshwest Apr 2012 #107
+1, Yep, Agree!!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2012 #126
And why was she not arrested??? Must be the cops were late for the local Klan meeting AnOhioan Apr 2012 #5
Very funny. And probably true. savannah43 Apr 2012 #54
Should be attempted murder cyglet Apr 2012 #6
I hope he sues her until he owns the keys to the jeep. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #8
Just the 'keys to the jeep'? alittlelark Apr 2012 #14
What was she thinking? Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #15
My guess, she was thinking "Just another Black Kid, and how dare he be in my White neighbourhood)! teddy51 Apr 2012 #18
And what was law enforcement thinking arthritisR_US Apr 2012 #23
We've been a state of denial for too damned long in this country. freshwest Apr 2012 #28
+1. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2012 #42
Until we change the police focus, and change the police statistics, this is going to continue. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #44
hell, everyone knows them blackies have cooties n' shit. Hitting them ain't like ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2012 #9
Racism is alive and well in America and instead of being destroyed it seems to have grown more Justice wanted Apr 2012 #10
Her racism cyglet Apr 2012 #21
And Zimmerman's and Santorum's etc. Justice wanted Apr 2012 #30
Looks like open season on black kids malaise Apr 2012 #11
Hope the parents sues that woman. Take her to Judge Judy's court southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #12
That's too small for what I would be asking for Politicalboi Apr 2012 #16
Good point. Especially since the child seemed hurt. southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #17
Once Jules Moor recovers, Brigid Apr 2012 #20
Hmmmm.......the boy's father told a somewhat different story to the local news. WillowTree Apr 2012 #22
It sounds like exactly the same story to me. yardwork Apr 2012 #27
This one is a tough one for me quakerboy Apr 2012 #37
It's not clear? jeff47 Apr 2012 #58
Not at this point, to me. quakerboy Apr 2012 #70
The car wasn't on the road when the police arrived. jeff47 Apr 2012 #73
Now Johnson is claiming Jules ran into HER! Ilsa Apr 2012 #25
Yep...her "concern" is like Zimmerman calling Trayvon a "goon" as a "term of endearment"... Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #36
I don't see where she has changed her story. Kaleva Apr 2012 #40
Matter has been turned over to a grandjury-woman faces possible felony charges Kaleva Apr 2012 #29
Good! TahitiNut Apr 2012 #34
****THIS IS A RELIEF**** uponit7771 Apr 2012 #83
The woman has been slapped with a lawsuit Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #31
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2012 #82
He belongs in the neighborhood, but go-karts are not generally street legal and he shouldn't be... JVS Apr 2012 #32
What part of "jumps the curb to hit him" wasn't clear to you? TahitiNut Apr 2012 #35
"jumping the curb to hit him head on" can mean JVS Apr 2012 #61
...you're reaching and you know it people know the difference between a median and uponit7771 Apr 2012 #84
Read the story, she crossed the median from north lane to south lane then SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #95
especially when it's being operated by a black child SemperEadem Apr 2012 #117
however, it doesn't mean that in this instance. SemperEadem Apr 2012 #116
I believe it varies by state, but the go-kart could have been street legal... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #72
They could designated a "Community Vehcile" like the Smart Car uponit7771 Apr 2012 #85
Once again she (he) is NOT the point. The failure of the police is the point. saras Apr 2012 #38
The police have brought the evidence before a grand jury. Kaleva Apr 2012 #62
After they saw to it that evidence wouldn't include a drug test TriplD Apr 2012 #135
I think one has to have probable cause before requiring someone to take a drug test Kaleva Apr 2012 #137
Deliberate felony assualt with a car? OF COURSE it calls for a drug test. saras Apr 2012 #138
That's what the boy says Kaleva Apr 2012 #139
WTF? Thats assault with a deadly weapon! HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #39
Boy's father says this isn't about race. Kaleva Apr 2012 #41
I'm curious if she would have confronted some white kids SemperEadem Apr 2012 #118
True Kaleva Apr 2012 #132
she probably got tired of listening to the kids racing around the ThomThom Apr 2012 #147
Original story bl968 Apr 2012 #43
I am so fucking sick of racists! jillan Apr 2012 #45
Look at this comment. The Wielding Truth Apr 2012 #49
I'm sick of their apologists SemperEadem Apr 2012 #119
But I bet that woman insists that she isn't racist and has a black friend. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #46
Well, the Zimmerman family kicked Joe Oliver to the curb... Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #48
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2012 #81
WTF!!!! Charge her with attempted murder! Initech Apr 2012 #47
She is a lying sack of BLEEP. Kalidurga Apr 2012 #50
Not having been there, we don't know whether the woman is lying Vattel Apr 2012 #51
She stopped on the sidewalk. jeff47 Apr 2012 #59
There's no sidewalk there. She stopped on the grass. Kaleva Apr 2012 #65
Do go-carts move around that good on grass? Rozlee Apr 2012 #121
Observing my youngest step-son while he drove a go cart. Kaleva Apr 2012 #131
Wow, you never tire of defending racist scum, do you? EOTE Apr 2012 #76
I can't abide a fool. Vattel Apr 2012 #77
You can't abide logic or humanity. EOTE Apr 2012 #78
I can't abide apologists SemperEadem Apr 2012 #120
This message was self-deleted by its author Vattel Apr 2012 #123
I am not blaming anyone. Vattel Apr 2012 #125
'Oh what's the use?' REALLY? Rex Apr 2012 #103
Sounds like she used her vehicle to cut him off. bluedigger Apr 2012 #52
Still a really stupid decision JAbuchan08 Apr 2012 #63
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2012 #86
I can't keep up with all these shameful incidents ecstatic Apr 2012 #53
Crazy woman!!! Beacool Apr 2012 #55
Probably because the issue of her being stopped or not isn't clear Kaleva Apr 2012 #66
I thought that they were riding on the grass and she jumped the curb. Beacool Apr 2012 #67
They were driving on the grass and she jumped the curb... Kaleva Apr 2012 #68
She left the road, jumped the curb, drove onto the grass ... mainer Apr 2012 #87
I don't think it was a Hollywood kind of junping the curb Kaleva Apr 2012 #90
fast or slow, she did it deliberately. She crossed a lane, left the road and onto the grass. mainer Apr 2012 #91
I think that's why this got sent to a grand jury Kaleva Apr 2012 #97
cars dont' belong on the grass or over the curb SemperEadem Apr 2012 #122
WOW! WTF? JAbuchan08 Apr 2012 #57
no, because she has been inculcated with the notion SemperEadem Apr 2012 #124
We could really do without the excuse-making here, redqueen Apr 2012 #60
It is sad to watch people bendover backwards Rex Apr 2012 #104
You misspelled 'infuriating' redqueen Apr 2012 #108
Bigotry is a toxic scourge The Wizard Apr 2012 #64
AND SHE WASN'T ARRESTED! So any white person is allowed to attack an unthreatening black ... Kablooie Apr 2012 #69
The problem is really either the cops or the laws.. not so much the woman. vaberella Apr 2012 #74
Right, if she was arrested it would at least sind a signale of restraint uponit7771 Apr 2012 #80
whoa - I can't believe eyewall Apr 2012 #71
Are you kidding? bluedigger Apr 2012 #134
Yeah, I was kidding eyewall Apr 2012 #140
Well, they got it "almost right" from the start, lol. bluedigger Apr 2012 #141
That sounds like fun eyewall Apr 2012 #142
Well, I did grow up in the 60's. bluedigger Apr 2012 #145
Forget about just race for a second. No adult should practically run over a child! Jennicut Apr 2012 #75
The woman claims the kids ran into HER. mainer Apr 2012 #79
Whenever I see kids engaging in risky behavior while I'm driving, redqueen Apr 2012 #100
What was it about speaking respectfully that was brought up with respect to Trayvon? LibertyLover Apr 2012 #88
WTF! Apparently they see that they can't win logically (but they don't see logically) so now they lonestarnot Apr 2012 #89
wow-I guess it's ON librechik Apr 2012 #92
"Go-kart damaged severely" mainer Apr 2012 #93
When my kids were young Go Vols Apr 2012 #94
I don't remember the actual MPH... Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #96
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #101
Johnson was not arrested or drug-tested upon the admission of her actions. WTF Smilo Apr 2012 #105
Hopefully the kid recovers from his injuries Catherine Vincent Apr 2012 #109
what the fucking HELL? BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #110
WTF is wrong with Police. Do your fucking jobs and arrest people when they break the fucking law!! TNLib Apr 2012 #111
How is this not an assault with a deadly weapon????? marble falls Apr 2012 #112
"Stand Your Ground in a Jeep Wrangler" - I can see the regional ad campaign, now. leveymg Apr 2012 #113
ARGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Iris Apr 2012 #114
Will we now see Sit and Drive Your Ground cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #115
what is the difference in this case SemperEadem Apr 2012 #127
My extremely elderly father put it very plainly "If Zimmerman doesn't fry... Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2012 #128
If he walks... Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #129
In the photo, Jules is on a stretcher... frogmarch Apr 2012 #130
She was too busy "laughing with the police" n/t cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #133
She was White and Didn't Like seeing a Black child in her neighborhood fascisthunter Apr 2012 #136
WOW. You called it Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #144
Nope - no such thing as white privlege - never! Taverner Apr 2012 #143
Thank you for tracking back the news stories on this - hedgehog Apr 2012 #146

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
4. that's vehicular assault....
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:19 PM
Apr 2012

I guess in Texas, if a white person commits vehicular assault and the victim is black, it's "watching the neighborhood" instead.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
13. Assault With A Deadly Weapon...
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:30 PM
Apr 2012

I had a friend that decided to go from Sacramento to San Francisco at 110 mph, and that's what he was charged with when pulled over.





& Rec !!!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
19. I don't get it. It sure was vehicular assault in TX, also assault with a deadly weapon. The woman
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:41 PM
Apr 2012

Needs to have a little quality time in a rubber room. Yes, there are such things in the world, that's not a joke. She needs to have some space without the voices in her head from Beck, Rush and FNN and then maybe she'll come back to reality.

At the least, she should have her license revoked and be sued but she needs to be charged with negligent collision at the least. Although the cops don't charge as much as they used to. They expect people to handle all damages through insurance.

She may have spun them some tale about the right of way, claimed they hit her first, we don't know. I see a lot from what I'm reading for her to be arrested. I don't know what the social climate is in Pearland.

This almost sounds like Libertarian paradise. Make you own law as you go along, no charges, just fight it out in the streets. No need for government to get involved unless someone is killed. As we saw in Florida, not even then.

I have a teabagger relative down there, a Beckerhead, probably heard whatever this pea brain heard. I can't talk to people like that anymore. I hate this crap.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
24. I read the article at link. She claims that the go-cart hit her car after she stopped.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:50 PM
Apr 2012

Her story is that she was worried about the kids' safety and stopped her car to tell them to drive their go-cart more safely, and they just happened to smash into her car after she'd stopped.

This reminds me very much of George Zimmerman's story. Fortunately nobody was killed in this instance.

I have a feeling that this kind of racist attack goes on all the time and only now are news stories starting to pick up on it.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
33. Okay, these are different stories from the two. The kids could have been acting up,
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:07 PM
Apr 2012

But she was driving reckless, changing lanes. If the kids were acting up, why not call the law then?

Why take charge of the situation, get out, yell, and then WHY tell the kids they didn't BELONG there?

That's a red flag. I can picture the cops hearing her say the kids HIT HER. If she was stopped, and they were not being responsible, as kids sometimes aren't on go karts, that could have happened.

But the issue for me is ALWAYS: why did you start the confrontation? What drove YOU to get out of your comfort zone, and YELL?

And as the adult and 'mother' she should know better. It may have happened either way; that she chased him down and hit him; or she could have gone up on the grass to get away from him.

It's the INITIAL ACT, like Zimmermann's, of going to START SOMETHING. IMHO, she was upset before she saw those kids, believing a lot of stuff, like who it was that BELONGED in that neighborhood, that is going to get her into a world of frigging hurt.

And as far as the Pearland PD sending it to the Grand Jury, that's a hell of lot more than the Sanford PD did. I don't know how long it takes to get one going, but she's going to be in the doghouse until this is over.

She's just ruined her and her family's life over her lack of control in a situation she could have avoided!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
107. Agreed. I just want to cover all the bases, like her defense attorney would to get her off.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 05:27 PM
Apr 2012

At any rate, she should have her driver's license revoked while awaiting trial. She's a menace to society. By next week the Grand Jury should have her goose cooked.

Baitball Blogger

(46,699 posts)
15. What was she thinking?
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:33 PM
Apr 2012

I mean, why do they keep thinking they can mistreat people like this?

Why am I asking that question? I know the answer.

 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
18. My guess, she was thinking "Just another Black Kid, and how dare he be in my White neighbourhood)!
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:39 PM
Apr 2012

This has to stop, I don't know how that will come about, but it needs to.

arthritisR_US

(7,286 posts)
23. And what was law enforcement thinking
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:49 PM
Apr 2012

not charging her?!! JFC what the hell is going on?! This is sickening and it has to stop!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
28. We've been a state of denial for too damned long in this country.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:53 PM
Apr 2012

I don't know what to do if the law continues to fail to prosecute these wingnuts. The cops are either scared of the wingnuts or are wingnuts as well.

And the biggest shame of all, the American disgrace, is this is what minority communities have been dealing with FOREVER in this country.

Baitball Blogger

(46,699 posts)
44. Until we change the police focus, and change the police statistics, this is going to continue.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:51 PM
Apr 2012

They use those statistics to justify their vigilante behavior, and the thing is, that they have public support for it within their group.

That's why we need to keep pushing public support to push our position. We must not let up showing our outrage, or they win.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
9. hell, everyone knows them blackies have cooties n' shit. Hitting them ain't like
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:27 PM
Apr 2012

hitting a REAL person. A WHITE CHRISTIAN BIBLE CARRYING person. Hell, if she had a gun, she'd be fine cleaning up the neighborhood in self defense.


god damn it. This country is self-destructing as we watch. What bothers me the most is how too many democrats in office are afraid of their own shadows, and refuse to stand up for what is right, and to piss on what is wrong.

How the HELL could that woman be released without any charges? This was attempted manslaughter. This just makes me sick.

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
10. Racism is alive and well in America and instead of being destroyed it seems to have grown more
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:27 PM
Apr 2012

while being hidden from the sight.


 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
16. That's too small for what I would be asking for
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:34 PM
Apr 2012

I would also sue the police for not testing her for drugs or alcohol. On top of suing the crazy woman trying to kill him.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
20. Once Jules Moor recovers,
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:45 PM
Apr 2012

He's going to have one hell of a college fund.

But how is this not attempted vehicular homicide?

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
27. It sounds like exactly the same story to me.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:53 PM
Apr 2012

The father's version matches the children's version exactly. The father said this:

"I don’t think, I know for a fact that she intentionally did it," said Moor. "She left from the northbound lane, crossed over into the southbound lane, jumped the curb and hit my son head on in his go-cart."

Maybe you are reading the woman's story at the end. She is claiming that the boys hit her car after she parked.

quakerboy

(13,918 posts)
37. This one is a tough one for me
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:18 PM
Apr 2012

When I was a kid, anyone who had a go kart drove it like a nutter at any possible opportunity, and I saw more than one accident caused by it. Although where we were dirt bikes were more common. Kids are not above lying to try and stay out of trouble. Neither are adults or racists. Without anything but each side telling a story, its not clear to me who is telling the lie.

Hopefully the police took forensic evidence, and there was some indication of who was telling the truth. One would think that the damage to the two vehicles would tell some kind of story. Or that there are witnesses who can tell what they saw

quakerboy

(13,918 posts)
70. Not at this point, to me.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 04:52 AM
Apr 2012

Is there confirmation that she was over the curb, or is it just an allegation of the boy? All I see in the article is he said she said. I do not see any independent confirmation of the actual facts, as reported by an outside witness or a police officer or anything.

He says she made apparently racially tinged comments and tried to run him down with her jeep. She says he drove recklessly and crashed into her jeep. Was she on the curb? Are there skid marks from either vehicle? What did the crash damage indicate? Are there any witnesses? Maybe I missed that in both articles.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
73. The car wasn't on the road when the police arrived.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 09:07 AM
Apr 2012

So, that's pretty good confirmation she was over the curb. If her story was that she swerved off the road to avoid the kid, she'd have an excuse for that. But that's not her story.

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
25. Now Johnson is claiming Jules ran into HER!
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:51 PM
Apr 2012

Her story has changed, of course. She claims she was concerned for the boys' welfare. Yeah right, so concerned that she tried to kill him.

I hope Jules sues her and forces her out of the neighborhood.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
36. Yep...her "concern" is like Zimmerman calling Trayvon a "goon" as a "term of endearment"...
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:14 PM
Apr 2012

...right before he shot him.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
40. I don't see where she has changed her story.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:28 PM
Apr 2012

The boy is reported to have said that the woman rammed her vehicle into the go-cart but I don't see where the woman states that she did so.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
32. He belongs in the neighborhood, but go-karts are not generally street legal and he shouldn't be...
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:57 PM
Apr 2012

driving it on the street. Of course, the proper course of action is not to hit the go-kart with a car. In fact, the desire to prevent collisions between cars and go-karts is exactly why they aren't street legal.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
61. "jumping the curb to hit him head on" can mean
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:18 PM
Apr 2012

jumping a median to hit someone driving in traffic on the other side of the road. Also, go-karts aren't for the sidewalk either.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
84. ...you're reaching and you know it people know the difference between a median and
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 11:26 AM
Apr 2012

...a curb

. It's not illegal to drive them on the side walk

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
95. Read the story, she crossed the median from north lane to south lane then
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 01:04 PM
Apr 2012

jumped the curb to hit the kid.

Or are you saying that riding a go cart on the sidewalk deserves to be punished by getting run over by a jeep?

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
117. especially when it's being operated by a black child
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 07:18 PM
Apr 2012

because there is nothing innocent about a black child, apparently.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
116. however, it doesn't mean that in this instance.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 07:17 PM
Apr 2012

cars don't belong on medians or on curbs.

there are laws about it in every state in the union.

nice try.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
72. I believe it varies by state, but the go-kart could have been street legal...
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 05:24 AM
Apr 2012

generally they are limited to daytime driving, I remember that we had to have a flag on ours that was 5 feet above the street, and orange, also it had to have reflectors, red in back, white in front. They may require lights now, its been a while since I drove one, and I'm not a kid anymore.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
38. Once again she (he) is NOT the point. The failure of the police is the point.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:26 PM
Apr 2012

She's a fucking idiot and probably a racist. She broke the law, viciously and stupidly, and needs to be promptly arrested, charged with the appropriate crimes, brought to trial, and gotten into treatment or prison. That's what our justice system is for, and it shouldn't be a problem.

The real problem is that the police seem to be systemically corrupt here as well as in Sanford. Yeah, I know it's big, and obvious, and common, but it's still both inexcusable and unnecessary.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
62. The police have brought the evidence before a grand jury.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:22 PM
Apr 2012

The grand jury will convene soon and the woman faces possible felony charges. The boy's father has said that this isn't about race, it's about what is right and what is wrong.

TriplD

(176 posts)
135. After they saw to it that evidence wouldn't include a drug test
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 09:59 PM
Apr 2012

What other evidence won't a grand jury see see because of this cops?

Did he even take any photos?

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
137. I think one has to have probable cause before requiring someone to take a drug test
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 10:07 PM
Apr 2012

She may not have appeared to have been under the influence of a drug.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
138. Deliberate felony assualt with a car? OF COURSE it calls for a drug test.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 11:31 PM
Apr 2012

It wasn't an ACCIDENT, she JUMPED THE CURB TO GO AFTER HIM.

I'd be thinking "wired on meth" if I was a cop.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
139. That's what the boy says
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 11:53 PM
Apr 2012

We don't know what the evidence at the scene suggests what may have taken place. The woman say's she was stopped and the boy's ran into her vehicle with their go-cart.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
39. WTF? Thats assault with a deadly weapon!
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:28 PM
Apr 2012

I guess the DOJ is too busy busting medical marijuana users to bother with minor details like black kids being assaulted by white adults and racist DAs not pressing charges.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
118. I'm curious if she would have confronted some white kids
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 07:20 PM
Apr 2012

in the same manner and said the exact same things to them?

something tells me probably not.

The child's father can say whatever he likes, but when the woman is saying " you dont' belong in this neighborhood" to a black kid, then that's making it about race. HIS actions may not be about race, but hers certainly are. She doesn't even know who her neighbors are and clearly has never bothered herself to find out.

ThomThom

(1,486 posts)
147. she probably got tired of listening to the kids racing around the
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 03:22 PM
Apr 2012

neighborhood in the go-cart
I don't live in Texas so I don't know what the laws are on driving go-carts on the street or sidewalk. If it is loud and they are cutting across other people's yards the kids could be in trouble. I have not seen any real details or a discussion of the law by someone that knows. I will wait for the grand jury.
She should have just called the police if the kids were in violation of the law or tearing up her yard.

bl968

(360 posts)
43. Original story
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:48 PM
Apr 2012

Here's the original story with more information....

What do you wanna bet would have happened if it had been a African American Lady who did this to a go-cart driven by two little white kids. “You don’t belong in this neighborhood!”

http://www.forwardtimesonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=789:vigilante-madness-in-pearlandnot-just-in-sanford-not-just-trayvon-martin&catid=69:local-and-state&Itemid=126

jillan

(39,451 posts)
45. I am so fucking sick of racists!
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:52 PM
Apr 2012

Normal people may feel discrimination at times - it's only human nature BUT you don't act out on it.

This is pure hatred. Sick of it!

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
49. Look at this comment.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:11 PM
Apr 2012

Joshua Jamil Muhammad · Martial Arts/Chess Instructor at Crescent Kings and Kicks says:

So this woman cross two lanes of traffic and jumped a curb and you all want to point out is go karts not being street legal. First of all they were on a side walk, and cars are not sidewalk legal. For this woman to say she "pulled her car over" when she jumped a curb sounds stupid.
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· 11 hours ago

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
119. I'm sick of their apologists
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 07:25 PM
Apr 2012

who think nothing of worth can ever be considered for a black child's life--they must have done something to deserve it.

It's that "well, she shouldn't have been wearing a short skirt" mentality.

Blame the victim for the predator not being able to control themselves.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
48. Well, the Zimmerman family kicked Joe Oliver to the curb...
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:08 PM
Apr 2012

...he has plenty of free time on his hands. Maybe he could speak up for her.

Joe Oliver, George Zimmerman's 'friend', no longer his media advisor
By Joy-Ann Reid

12:39 PM on 04/04/2012



http://www.thegrio.com/specials/trayvon-martin/joe-oliver-george-zimmermans-friend-no-longer-his-media-advisor.php

Joe Oliver, who made a media splash as the friend who stepped forward to support George Zimmerman, has stepped down as Zimmerman's media adviser.

Oliver, 53, first told theGrio he reached out to Zimmerman's attorney, Craig Sonner, after he was unable to reach George, with whom Oliver works at a Florida mortgage security firm.

Oliver said he wanted to know if it was okay to "speak on George's behalf," and he wanted to reassure himself that he would be doing the right thing if he did so.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
50. She is a lying sack of BLEEP.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:15 PM
Apr 2012

Bleepity, bleep, bleep. She did stop her car that is clear. I am sure she said what the kid says she said. But, there is no way he ran into her parked car and sustained those injuries, especially if the car was no longer in the road. Jeepers these racist a hos are thick.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
51. Not having been there, we don't know whether the woman is lying
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:20 PM
Apr 2012

when she says that the gocart hit her stopped vehicle.

Oh what's the use?

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
65. There's no sidewalk there. She stopped on the grass.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:31 PM
Apr 2012

Her story is that she stopped on the grass and the boys in the go-cart then slammed into her vehicle. The boy says she slammed into them head-on ( I'm assuming that he means her vehicle was still moving when the collision happens).

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
131. Observing my youngest step-son while he drove a go cart.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 08:28 PM
Apr 2012

No, they didn't drive so well on the grass as compared to driving it on pavement. Less traction.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
76. Wow, you never tire of defending racist scum, do you?
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 10:29 AM
Apr 2012

You spend far, far more time defending racist assholes than condemning them. It doesn't matter how incredibly clear the facts are, unless you have crystal clear video of the klan lynching a young black man, you'll defend them until the cows come home. That doesn't make you the least bit ill?

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
78. You can't abide logic or humanity.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 10:40 AM
Apr 2012

But you'll go out of your way to defend horrific, racist crimes. Sickening.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
120. I can't abide apologists
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 07:27 PM
Apr 2012

who have the "well she shouldn't have been wearing a short skirt" mentality.

Blame the victim for the predator not being able to control themselves.

Response to SemperEadem (Reply #120)

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
125. I am not blaming anyone.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 07:38 PM
Apr 2012

I have no idea whether the woman in question deliberately drove her car into those kids.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
52. Sounds like she used her vehicle to cut him off.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:27 PM
Apr 2012

She is lucky there wasn't a tragic outcome, but I think the proper remedy is an aggravated driving to endanger charge and a hefty civil settlement.

ecstatic

(32,681 posts)
53. I can't keep up with all these shameful incidents
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:34 PM
Apr 2012

What the hell is wrong with people???? And once again, the guys who are supposed to serve and protect have once again let us down! Why should I show any respect to an organization full of racist thugs?

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
55. Crazy woman!!!
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:50 PM
Apr 2012

She ran over 2 children with an SUV because she thought they didn't belong in the neighborhood?????? I'm just glad that she didn't kill the kids. Why wasn't she arrested?

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
66. Probably because the issue of her being stopped or not isn't clear
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:35 PM
Apr 2012

She says she was stopped when the boys slammed into her. They say she ran into them head on.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
67. I thought that they were riding on the grass and she jumped the curb.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:57 PM
Apr 2012

Or is that in doubt? Either way, she shouldn't have been yelling at them that they didn't belong in the neighborhood.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
68. They were driving on the grass and she jumped the curb...
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 12:02 AM
Apr 2012

and the boy said she hit them head on. She says she stopped her vehicle (on the grass) and the boys in the go-cart then slammed into her vehicle.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
87. She left the road, jumped the curb, drove onto the grass ...
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 11:53 AM
Apr 2012

and she blames the kids for hitting HER. Right.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
90. I don't think it was a Hollywood kind of junping the curb
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 12:48 PM
Apr 2012

Like she was driving at excessive speed, aimed for the boys on the go-cart, hit the curb, went air-borne and then plowed into the go-cart.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
91. fast or slow, she did it deliberately. She crossed a lane, left the road and onto the grass.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 12:54 PM
Apr 2012

where the kids were.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
97. I think that's why this got sent to a grand jury
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 01:21 PM
Apr 2012

I don't think it's illegal for the kids to drive on the grass with the go-cart nor is it illegal for the woman to park her vehicle on the grass.

It's one thing to say she used poor judgement and should not have driven onto the grass where the kids were and quite another to say she purposely ran her vehicle into the go-cart. The first instance could result in a ticket or warning and the second could garner a felony charge.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
122. cars dont' belong on the grass or over the curb
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 07:31 PM
Apr 2012

they belong in the street. They are not legal to operate anywhere but in the street.

She's lying to try to keep her butt from frying, but keep on apologizing and twisting this up to turn her into your god on earth.

JAbuchan08

(3,046 posts)
57. WOW! WTF?
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:01 PM
Apr 2012

Why the hell would she do something like that? Aside from the fact that what she did was horribly wrong, doesn't self preservation kick in at some point and tell you that hitting a kid in a go-kart with your car could get you in a whole mess of trouble?

Furthermore, what is wrong with the police?

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
124. no, because she has been inculcated with the notion
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 07:36 PM
Apr 2012

that a human being of African descent has no worth or no rights that she is bound to respect. That is evident by the apparent ignorance she put on full display because she never took the time to know who her neighbors are.

when she said to the children (and 13 is a child, not an adult) that they did not belong in the neighborhood, that was all the justification she needed to proceed in the manner in which she did.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
60. We could really do without the excuse-making here,
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:13 PM
Apr 2012

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at least.

She ran her jeep off the street toward where this kid was driving driving his go kart.

You really can't dress that up. She should have been arrested for reckless driving at the very least.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
104. It is sad to watch people bendover backwards
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 04:50 PM
Apr 2012

to defend the white lady. Like you said, you really cannot dress that up without looking like a racist imo.

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
64. Bigotry is a toxic scourge
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:24 PM
Apr 2012

that will be fatal to the country unless reined in and marginalized. That it's accepted behavior by a large element is quite disturbing.

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
69. AND SHE WASN'T ARRESTED! So any white person is allowed to attack an unthreatening black ...
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 12:47 AM
Apr 2012

with no consequences.

How the hell do we inject basic human morals into these monsters?

Parts of our country seem to be rolling down hill back to a legal lynching society.

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
74. The problem is really either the cops or the laws.. not so much the woman.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 09:10 AM
Apr 2012

Well in getting off scott free.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
134. Are you kidding?
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 09:29 PM
Apr 2012
Sales of the Jeep Wrangler were up in a big way last year, so it should come as little surprise that there are reportedly plans to up the production of the iconic sport-utility vehicle.
Jeep sold 122,460 Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited models last year, a jump of 30 percent from 2010. Some of the jump could likely be attributed to the 2012 model’s vast improvements–thanks to the addition of the 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6 engine, it gets from 0-60 mph an estimated three seconds quicker.
In any case, the Wrangler is at the mercy of its production lines, which work 20 hours a day, six days a week, pumping out about 700 cars a day. As of December 1, 2011, Jeep had roughly a 67-day supply of the Wrangler on dealer lots, although per month sales through the second half of the year were up between 25 and 70 percent year-over-year.
That number will change to 790 by June, says Automotive News, representing about a 13-percent increase in production. The UAW says that it will accomplish this by moving 25 workers on two different shifts from support positions onto the production line. This should result in five more Wranglers being produced every hour.


Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/we-hear-jeep-to-boost-production-of-wrangler-to-meet-increased-demand-157071.html#ixzz1rDfIbclL

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
141. Well, they got it "almost right" from the start, lol.
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 01:05 PM
Apr 2012

I was up in Moab this week for the Easter Jeep Safari. (It's become a week long thing, sort of not-like Sturgis is for the Harley crowd. )





Of course, some people like to tinker around with the original design.

eyewall

(674 posts)
142. That sounds like fun
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 02:31 PM
Apr 2012

Your first photo perfectly illustrates what I meant. I wonder how much of the popularity is related to the boomer's fascination with little green plastic army men.

I agree, it's a classic example of functional design.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
145. Well, I did grow up in the 60's.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 02:55 PM
Apr 2012

I had the GI Joe Jeep.

Here is another thread with some pics from Arches NP.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10363527

I won't hijack the thread further.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
75. Forget about just race for a second. No adult should practically run over a child!
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 10:10 AM
Apr 2012

She claims they were not being safe and when she went to drive her car up on the curb the child stopped his go cart at the same time and that caused her to hit him. I'm sorry but what adult runs down a kid like that? That was a lot more unsafe then the kid driving his go cart around. When I was a kid my neighbor let his kids use their go cart on the sidewalks in our neighborhoods and no one cared. Maybe because it was the 80's. Sheesh. What is wrong with adults these days? Kids are not allowed to be kids anymore.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
79. The woman claims the kids ran into HER.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 11:15 AM
Apr 2012

After she just happened to cross a lane of traffic and drive over the curb onto the grass. All the kids' fault! (And she was just worried about their safety, which is why she drove onto the grass.)

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
100. Whenever I see kids engaging in risky behavior while I'm driving,
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 03:38 PM
Apr 2012

the first thing I do is drive straight into the area where they're playing. For safety.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
88. What was it about speaking respectfully that was brought up with respect to Trayvon?
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 11:58 AM
Apr 2012

Oh yeah - if he had only spoken respectfully to George Zimmerman than he wouldn't have been shot. But here we have a young teenager answering politely and respectfully and he still gets attacked. WTF? I mean really, WTF was Ms. Johnson thinking?

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
89. WTF! Apparently they see that they can't win logically (but they don't see logically) so now they
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 12:02 PM
Apr 2012

want apartheid. Nutfuckery!

librechik

(30,674 posts)
92. wow-I guess it's ON
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 12:56 PM
Apr 2012

this is what the Koch brothers have been praying for--more and more citizens acting out the hate they are taught on whoever they perceive as the enemy. And they are being taught the enemy is minorities, liberals, and the government. Gee. 1932 Germany anyone?

mainer

(12,022 posts)
93. "Go-kart damaged severely"
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 12:59 PM
Apr 2012

So how fast do these things go? Probably no more than 5 mph, esp. on the grass. Run one of those into a STOPPED Wrangler, would it be damaged severely?

I'm thinking the Wrangler was the vehicle that had to be moving, and fast enough to damage a go-kart.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
96. I don't remember the actual MPH...
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 01:09 PM
Apr 2012

...but as a kid, I had a go-cart, and man, did I LOVE it. And I lived in a very small town in Massachusetts, so I took it out on the road (on the SIDE of the road, obviously). Because they are low to the ground, the only part of a Wrangler mine could have rrun into was the tires, and if that happened, I can't imagine any damage. As a kid, the go-cart "felt" FAST, but in reality, it wasn't.

Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
105. Johnson was not arrested or drug-tested upon the admission of her actions. WTF
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 04:51 PM
Apr 2012

What is it with these stupid cops that will not take any action without referring it to the DA - is it because they don't want to arrest someone they know is "all-white" with them?

Absolutely, bloody disgusting.

This woman should be charged with attempted vehicular manslaughter - and as it is TX - she should serve a good long time behind bars - right DA - right????

Catherine Vincent

(34,488 posts)
109. Hopefully the kid recovers from his injuries
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 05:39 PM
Apr 2012

It's too bad this happened. I know when I see kids playing in the streets whether it's basketball or go kart riding, really gets on my nerves. But then, I won't hit them with my car.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
110. what the fucking HELL?
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 06:12 PM
Apr 2012
Johnson was not arrested or drug-tested upon the admission of her actions. The Sheriff’s department Captain that came on the scene decided not to arrest Johnson upon consulting with the District Attorney.


What the HELL ?? How in the hell does the DA decide she's just peachy keen?





TNLib

(1,819 posts)
111. WTF is wrong with Police. Do your fucking jobs and arrest people when they break the fucking law!!
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 06:26 PM
Apr 2012

How hard is it.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
113. "Stand Your Ground in a Jeep Wrangler" - I can see the regional ad campaign, now.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 06:54 PM
Apr 2012

A truly perverse twist on Kathy Bates' famous line in Fried Green Tomatoes, "I'm older and have better insurance than you do."

Iris

(15,652 posts)
114. ARGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 06:56 PM
Apr 2012

I can just feel my throat getting raw just THINKING about how much this makes me want to scream. (and throw things)

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
115. Will we now see Sit and Drive Your Ground
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 06:58 PM
Apr 2012

for the assaults with vehicles...can't be narrowed by the "stand" inference. But it's not racial...white folk in Jeeps run white kids off the roads every day...not. Let's hope this one doesn't take a month for someone "important" to listen and respond accordingly. Pretty sure these things have been happening for decades. But internet and social media and videos are narrowing the scope...hopefully.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
127. what is the difference in this case
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 07:59 PM
Apr 2012

compared to this case of a woman hitting a kid on a go-kart?

http://www.wfaa.com/home/related/62-year-old-Texas-woman-arrested-go-kart-hit-and-run-accident-125893879.html


Raw story is also carrying this:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/02/racism-and-vigilante-justice-in-pearland-texas/

Jules saw two cars behind him while driving back home, so he decided to drive his go-cart completely off the road to his right onto the grassy edge of the neighborhood park to avoid being in the way of traffic.

It is then that Jules states that Johnson swung her vehicle across the south-bound lane of the road, ran over the curb onto the grass and deliberately and intentionally rammed her vehicle head-on into the go-cart.

It is still unclear why Johnson decided to do what she did. Johnson never apologized for ramming her truck into the go-cart and jeopardizing the lives of the three children and according to witnesses, was seen laughing as she spoke with the Sheriff’s deputies.

Johnson was not arrested or drug-tested upon the admission of her actions. The Sheriff’s department Captain that came on the scene decided not to arrest Johnson upon consulting with the District Attorney.
 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
128. My extremely elderly father put it very plainly "If Zimmerman doesn't fry...
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 08:13 PM
Apr 2012

there is going to be a suburban massacre."

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
129. If he walks...
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 08:16 PM
Apr 2012

...he'd better keep on walking.

He should shave that shitty little beard, grow out his hair (or shave his head), and move to another state.

He thinks he's "in hiding" now?

If he walks, he'll be the single most prized trophy on the East coast.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
130. In the photo, Jules is on a stretcher...
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 08:17 PM
Apr 2012

but the person who intentionally hit him with her vehicle wasn't arrested? WTF!!!

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
136. She was White and Didn't Like seeing a Black child in her neighborhood
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 10:04 PM
Apr 2012

with all the right wing rhetoric on the radio and tv, I am not surprised to see an uptick in racial violence against minorities. Fox news and right wing radio is stochastic terrorism.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
146. Thank you for tracking back the news stories on this -
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 03:07 PM
Apr 2012

all I could find last week were blogs referencing each other.

I am having a little trouble following the details. The kids (two on a go-cart, one on a bike) pulled off the road into the grass at their right to let some cars pass. Then this woman crossed a lane of traffic to drive onto the grass and came at them head-on. Was she originally behind the kids or was she driving toward them? If she was coming at them, how did she know they were driving improperly? To me, it's clear that this woman caused the accident regardless of whether she stopped before the impact.

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