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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGuess What? USA Funded ISIS From the Start (Can we PLEASE GTFO now?):
ISIS (which ISIL is also referred to as) was able to infiltrate Iraqi government ministries and has the support of members of Saddam Hussein's Baath party, the Islamic Front (originally formed in 2004 as a resistance group to the U.S. occupation) and other Sunni groups, Emran El-Badawi, director of the Arabic program at the University of Houston, said in an email.
The relationship between ISIL an Al-Qaeda breakaway group and other Sunni groups goes back to the beginning of the Iraq war. In the 2005 surge in Iraq, local tribes with U.S. funding built a coalition (known as the Sunni Awakening Movement or Sons of Iraq) that began combatting Al-Qaeda and other extreme groups to restore security and calm sectarianism. The program met with some success.
"These 90,000 Sons of Iraq made a significant contribution to the reported 90% drop in sectarian violence in 2007-2008," said an op-ed co-written by Derek Harvey, a former senior intelligence official, and Michael Pregent, a former U.S. Army officer and onetime senior intelligence analyst.
But all that changed after U.S. forces withdrew and Maliki refused to integrate the Sunni tribes into the government. Off the payroll and pushed aside, the Sunnis were at a disadvantage and felt abandoned while the Shias had full control of Baghdad and the south, and the Kurds had control of much of the north.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/6/19/isil-thousands-fighters.html
The relationship between ISIL an Al-Qaeda breakaway group and other Sunni groups goes back to the beginning of the Iraq war. In the 2005 surge in Iraq, local tribes with U.S. funding built a coalition (known as the Sunni Awakening Movement or Sons of Iraq) that began combatting Al-Qaeda and other extreme groups to restore security and calm sectarianism. The program met with some success.
"These 90,000 Sons of Iraq made a significant contribution to the reported 90% drop in sectarian violence in 2007-2008," said an op-ed co-written by Derek Harvey, a former senior intelligence official, and Michael Pregent, a former U.S. Army officer and onetime senior intelligence analyst.
But all that changed after U.S. forces withdrew and Maliki refused to integrate the Sunni tribes into the government. Off the payroll and pushed aside, the Sunnis were at a disadvantage and felt abandoned while the Shias had full control of Baghdad and the south, and the Kurds had control of much of the north.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/6/19/isil-thousands-fighters.html
More blowback from the brainiacs determining US foreign policy. Meantime, the war profits and oil money keep going to the well connected.
It's not about anything noble. Let's leave before we create another 9-11. At least, that's my view.
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Guess What? USA Funded ISIS From the Start (Can we PLEASE GTFO now?): (Original Post)
grahamhgreen
Jun 2014
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el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)1. We've done that a lot in our history it strikes me
Promise a minority group in a country that if they stand with us we'll take care of them and then we cut their legs out from under them. I don't know why we do it - seems so crummy.
Perhaps those making that call don't see Iraqis as human beings.
Bryant
liberal N proud
(61,004 posts)2. How many times have we created the hand that has bitten us?
Our leaders never learn from history.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)3. I'm against any involvement, but this is a ridiculous line of reasoning. nt
MisterP
(23,730 posts)4. "without a shot fired" (since of course the best way to fire a gun is with someone else's finger on
the trigger)
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)5. and controlled by the Saudi royal family?
JCMach1
(28,188 posts)6. Controlled by whoever pays the bills... used to be USA, now KSA
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)7. ah...
thanks.