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Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:10 AM

 

Mark this down: Pres. Obama got 100% of declared chemical weapons out of Syria without firing a shot

United Nations ‏@UN 21m
News: 100% of declared chemical weapons materials destroyed or removed from Syria http://j.mp/1pai7md


23 June 2014 – The Joint Mission welcomes the removal of the remaining 7.2 per cent of chemical weapons material from the Syrian Arab Republic. With this last movement, the total of declared chemical weapons materials destroyed or removed from Syria has reached 100%. The most operationally challenging task within the effort to eliminate the Syrian chemical weapons programme, has come to an end.

In addition to the completion of the removal operation, the Syrian Arab Republic has destroyed all declared production, mixing and filling equipment and munitions, as well as many buildings associated with its declared chemical weapons programme. With the exception of twelve production facilities that are awaiting a decision by the Executive Council of OPCW, all of the declared Syrian chemical weapons programme has been eliminated in an unprecedented timeframe and under uniquely challenging conditions.


read: http://opcw.unmissions.org/AboutOPCWUNJointMission/tabid/54/ctl/Details/mid/651/ItemID/325/Default.aspx

. . . yeah, I severely doubted this would happen.

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Reply Mark this down: Pres. Obama got 100% of declared chemical weapons out of Syria without firing a shot (Original post)
bigtree Jun 2014 OP
JNelson6563 Jun 2014 #1
Peacetrain Jun 2014 #2
cynzke Jun 2014 #85
progressoid Jun 2014 #3
Cha Jun 2014 #60
progressoid Jun 2014 #61
Cha Jun 2014 #62
Demeter Jun 2014 #4
Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #9
jeff47 Jun 2014 #21
karynnj Jun 2014 #44
William769 Jun 2014 #5
bigtree Jun 2014 #10
William769 Jun 2014 #13
Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #18
William769 Jun 2014 #20
MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #6
Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #8
bigtree Jun 2014 #15
Flaxbee Jun 2014 #17
jeff47 Jun 2014 #22
Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #7
bonniebgood Jun 2014 #11
former9thward Jun 2014 #54
Hekate Jun 2014 #12
Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #14
Beartracks Jun 2014 #16
groundloop Jun 2014 #19
Iliyah Jun 2014 #23
NCTraveler Jun 2014 #30
Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #37
NCTraveler Jun 2014 #73
Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #75
SidDithers Jun 2014 #33
JI7 Jun 2014 #39
Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #40
JI7 Jun 2014 #42
Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #48
JI7 Jun 2014 #53
Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #55
Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #43
Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #47
Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #51
Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #57
Schema Thing Jun 2014 #58
Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #63
Scurrilous Jun 2014 #24
Zorra Jun 2014 #25
mwrguy Jun 2014 #26
lark Jun 2014 #27
MisterP Jun 2014 #28
MaggieD Jun 2014 #29
SidDithers Jun 2014 #31
bigtree Jun 2014 #35
LordGlenconner Jun 2014 #36
tridim Jun 2014 #32
Lil Missy Jun 2014 #34
hrmjustin Jun 2014 #38
mcar Jun 2014 #41
Vattel Jun 2014 #45
Maedhros Jun 2014 #46
JoePhilly Jun 2014 #52
Skittles Jun 2014 #66
Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #49
Jesus Malverde Jun 2014 #50
RainDog Jun 2014 #56
riseabove Jun 2014 #59
freshwest Jun 2014 #76
Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #64
Skittles Jun 2014 #67
Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #69
Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #70
Cha Jun 2014 #65
grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #68
karynnj Jun 2014 #83
grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #84
SummerSnow Jun 2014 #71
Iliyah Jun 2014 #72
freshwest Jun 2014 #77
tclambert Jun 2014 #74
SunSeeker Jun 2014 #78
JDPriestly Jun 2014 #79
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awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #81
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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:17 AM

1. Good job Mr. President!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:28 AM

2. It can be done.. it can..

With the right person it can be done.. that is why letting the republicans and libertarians and tea party. etc.. anywhere near the White House is always always always a DISASTER.. that we have to go back in and clean up again and again and again..

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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 26, 2014, 08:29 AM

85. There may be no way.....

to clean up the next GOP DISASTER!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:38 AM

3. Or, a United Nations Joint Mission did it.

Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons

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Response to progressoid (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:24 PM

60. Yeah, far be it to squeeze out any credit to the President.

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Response to Cha (Reply #60)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:41 PM

61. Just reading the OP's link.

The Joint Mission recognizes the constructive cooperation and commitment demonstrated by the Syrian government throughout this complex operation. The Joint Mission is also grateful for the significant support and professionalism demonstrated by the maritime partners – People’s Republic of China, Denmark, Norway, Russian Federation, United Kingdom and the United States – who have provided critical resources and support to the operations. Moreover, the Joint Mission extends its appreciation to the Republic of Cyprus and the Republic of Lebanon for their facilitation and continuous cooperation.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #61)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 08:03 PM

62. yeah, it was a joint effort with many involved including President Obama and SOS Kerry.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:39 AM

4. Yeah, When Putin double-dared him to

 

but of course, credit will never be given to the Russians for anything good.

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Response to Demeter (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:46 AM

9. There is enough success here to go around and share, success does not have to be null sum game.

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Response to Demeter (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:37 PM

21. Putin was good cop. Obama was bad cop. Need both sides for that strategy to work. (nt)

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Response to Demeter (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:19 PM

44. I think you got it backwards - Obama and Kerry had proposed it soon after Kerry became SoS - to no

interest on the part of the Russians. ONLY after the US threat of a limited strike and Kerry PUBLICLY (not behind closed doors) saying that that was what it would take to make the US NOT attack that the Russians were interested.

Russia had the leverage to demand it. Syria is their client state and they had no desire to do so. Do you really think it a coincidence that it happened after Kerry spoke of it?

It is not Russia who often gets no credit for anything good here. They get plenty especially since Snowden made his home there. It is rare that Kerry ever gets credit here -- but there is a long line to parse every sentence he says to "prove" he is doing something wrong. It is less rare, but still too rare that Obama gets the credit.

The fact is the entire right blames Kerry and Obama for NOT striking Syria.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:43 AM

5. And I wonder how many people shot off their mouth over this episode?

And no I am not going to be the one to count them (because it's to damn many to keep up with).

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Response to William769 (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:57 AM

10. bless all the people who 'shot their mouths off'

 

. . . NOTHING happens in government without pressure from the people.

Remember, in this case, Congress responded to the President first to his request for authorization to stage military strikes. President Obama insisted all along that he had the authority to strike Syria without pre-approval from Congress, and, there are more than a handful of Democrats in the congressional and Senate leadership who echoed the administration's insistence in their initial rush to war with Syria that they wouldn't wait indefinitely before launching their military response.

Thousands of Americans spoke out and called their legislators (and the White House) and urged them against military action.

Kudos to the president for following the will of the people that the U.S. refrain from military action in Syria and rely on international and diplomatic solutions; not unilateral military measures like the president originally pushed for.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:02 PM

13. Point taken.

I should have worded it better.

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Response to William769 (Reply #13)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:17 PM

18. How would you word a comment like that better?

 

Seriously, what would improve it?

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:32 PM

20. Asking since President Obama did do the right thing

That the naysayers at least acknowledge it instead of going silent waiting for the next moment to pounce? Better?

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:43 AM

6. Or Putin did

 

Last edited Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:43 PM - Edit history (1)

Hard to tell: did Obama have a strategy or win the lottery?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:46 AM

8. What do you mean? You think Obama does not deserve major credit?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:03 PM

15. I think his argument would be that this is how you do it

 

. . . 'soft power', 'big stick', gunboat diplomacy lite.

Who knows what the President would have done, though, if Putin hadn't stepped in . . . or if Congress had acceded to his initial request for authority to strike?

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Response to bigtree (Reply #15)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:15 PM

17. Putin also deserves a lot of credit - Russia and Syria are long time

good friends; Russia didn't want its naval base in Tartus involved in any sort of US-initiated military skirmish (can you imagine the hell that would have been unleashed if something had happened there?), and Putin was able to put enormous pressure on Assad to cooperate.

I think Assad would have continued to give the US the finger if Putin hadn't stepped in... and we all know that the Republicans (McCain et al) can't NOT charge a waving flag...they are completely incapable of thought or restraint, they're all knee-jerk (emphasis on jerk) reactionaries.

Now, I do give Obama MAJOR props for working with Russia and not acceding to the crazies' demands here in the US for military action. Major backbone, there.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:39 PM

22. Both did. Putin was good cop. Obama was bad cop. (nt)

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:45 AM

7. An amazing success for the Nobel Peace Prize winner of 2009, but to hear the media he has done

nothing...I detest the American media for the full scale propaganda war they have launched.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:59 AM

11. If this is true, why is Isreal conducting air strikes in Syria? nt

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Response to bonniebgood (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:04 PM

54. Maybe because Syria is killing Israeli 13 year-olds with missiles.

That could be the reason...

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:00 PM

12. TY, bigtree -- that is good news indeed

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:02 PM

14. PART of this is anti-WMD scare is RACIST.....

 

The message is that "those people" shouldn't have it because they aren't "civilized" like white people.

This appeals to this type:

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:07 PM

16. The bearded guy looks so serene.

This pic cracks me up.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:20 PM

19. You got something against a little good clean fun?



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Response to groundloop (Reply #19)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:04 PM

23. LOL

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:05 PM

30. By "that type"

 

I guess you mean a group of people who like to get together and have fun on the weekends. Their smiles hurt me.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #30)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:44 PM

37. You obviously missed the Confederate Flag....

 

It BELONGS in the mud.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #37)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:49 PM

73. Ohhhh. That one flag defines all of the people there.

 

I see how that works. Same tactic has been used against leftist protests forever.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #73)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:12 PM

75. I refuse to get all kumbaya after they refused to apologize for calling us TRAITORS.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:08 PM

33. Santa Claus really can fly...nt

Sid

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:56 PM

39. the problem was Assad using it on his people including Children

 

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Response to JI7 (Reply #39)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:03 PM

40. That's an excuse. The REAL reason is the belief that other races want to wipe out White People.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #40)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:11 PM

42. so OBama is scared others want to wipe out white people ?

 

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Response to JI7 (Reply #42)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:49 PM

48. He's doing his best to assure White People that he's on their side.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #48)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:01 PM

53. so why doesn't he do anything about india, pakistan, north korea, china ?

 

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Response to JI7 (Reply #53)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:30 PM

55. He would if the propaganda targeted them.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:16 PM

43. So Obama had racist motivations when he tried to rid Syria of WMD?

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #43)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:46 PM

47. That's almost as good of a twisting as the Neocons did on the WMD intelligence.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #47)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:52 PM

51. So what exactly was racist when it comes to the Syria WMD situation?

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #51)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:34 PM

57. "Arabs" aren't supposed to have anything more dangerous than a big curved sword....

 



Don't you know that?

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #57)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:56 PM

58. I know they aren't supposed to have chemical weapons.

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Response to Schema Thing (Reply #58)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 08:10 PM

63. Unless they say, "Made In The USA".

 

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:08 PM

24. K & R

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:29 PM

25. YAY!!! Thank you, President Obama! nt

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:33 PM

26. Obama should get another Nobel Peace Prize

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:33 PM

27. Excellent news

Wonder why this isn't at the top of the msm news? I listened for a few min. yesterday and this am and didn't hear a thing about it.

Never mind, silly me. Of course this wouldn't be important to them, no profit to be made for the 1% so nothing to say on the news front.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:43 PM

28. quite right: it's an-Nusra & co. who've been doing all the shooting with US-provided arms and $

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:01 PM

29. And my hat is off to him for that!

 

I think he has done an excellent job in the area of FP. I truly don't understand what the GOPers are whining about in this regard.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:06 PM

31. This is good, but the perpetual outrage machine has now shifted the focus to Egypt...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #31)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:24 PM

35. *questioning and skepticism of government is healthy and vital to an accountable democracy

 

. . . but there is a new, undefined doctrine of restraint, and a impetus from the administration to robust diplomacy which has characterized this second term. I think that balancing act by the President, at least, deserves notice.

*edited

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #31)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:26 PM

36. Oh there's at least one regular whiner

 

On this thread moving the goalposts around some. Typical from that lot.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:07 PM

32. Yea, but what's in it for Halliburton?

Syria is a 100% failure for the Neocons trying to further enrich the MIC.

Deal with it, warmongers.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:16 PM

34. Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!!!!!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:45 PM

38. K&R!

 

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:05 PM

41. Well done Mr. President

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:22 PM

45. Thank God Obama didn't get what he wanted, which was to bomb Syria.

 

The Joint Chiefs, Congress, the American people, some ambiguous intelligence reports, and Putin deserve more praise than Obama for the "not firing a shot" part.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:35 PM

46. Makes all those posters who were beating the drums for military strikes in Syria

 

look absolutely foolish.

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #46)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:54 PM

52. Along with those who were positive Obama was going to start an endless Iraq like war in Syria.

They were absolutely positive that our lame, puppet of a President, would invade Syria.

They were very, very, upset about it.

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #46)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 02:41 AM

66. they don't just LOOK foolish

they've PROVEN themselves to be foolish

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:52 PM

49. Eat it, Republicretins!

 

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:52 PM

50. In this thread we suspend reality

Syria has been under attack by the united states, britain and others for over three years...

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:30 PM

56. k&r n/t

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:06 PM

59. Congrats Mr. President!! Job well done... let the Republicants think about that one for a minute...

 

You can actually get shit done WITHOUT KILLING PEOPLE?!?!?

Woah, you don't say?

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Response to riseabove (Reply #59)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:40 PM

76. No kidding! Welcome to DU, riseabove.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 08:11 PM

64. Declared?

 

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Response to Boom Sound 416 (Reply #64)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 02:42 AM

67. that's the way to make it ALL!!!

see how that is done?

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Response to Skittles (Reply #67)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:24 AM

70. Deleting my above response

 

Nooowww I getcha

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 09:31 PM

65. "Nobody Thought Syria Would Give Up Its Chemical Weapons. It Just Did."

snip//

"The Obama administration was also cautious to make sure that their praise for the removal process’ completion didn’t read as praise for the Syrian government. “The world will never forget the loss of the more than 1,400 innocent Syrians senselessly killed with chemical weapons on August 21, 2013,” Secretary of State John Kerry said in a statement. “The worst of the weapons are gone, but the despicable regime and the crisis it has created remain and require our collective focus.”

thinkprogress

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:35 AM

68. Kudos. When he follows the progressives plan, it works out!!!

 

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #68)

Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:32 PM

83. This was NOT the progressive plan

You could say that progressives went all out to fight Obama on air strikes - they did that. However, there was NO progressive plan to get rid of chemical weapons. Obama had spoken to Putin and Kerry to Lavrov earlier in the year, but Russia had no interest.

Even when Kerry suggested it as an obvious alternative, most here called it a gaffe - which it wasn't. The far left was so angry at Kerry and Obama, that rather than give them any share of the credit, praised only Putin.

Saying no air strikes does not lead to a careful negotiation and plan to get the CW out. Credit should go to Obama, Kerry, Putin, Lavrov, the Un , the group that actually did the removals and even Syria.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #83)

Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:57 AM

84. Not true. We always seek peaceful alternatives:

 

“I believe that the American people share the president’s concerns about chemical weapons in Syria and the brutal Assad dictatorship. But, in overwhelming numbers, Vermonters are telling me they want those issues addressed diplomatically by the UN and the international community – not by unilateral military action on the part of the U.S."

- Senator Sanders

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:30 AM

71. Great news...but isn't this a distraction from Bergdahl and Benghazi?

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #71)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:41 AM

72. Don't forget the IRS!

K&R Mr. President.

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #71)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:42 PM

77. Don't worry! They'll refuse to report this and get back to their regularly scheduled programming!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:49 PM

74. How can Halliburton make any money on that? What a disaster!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:47 PM

78. K&R

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:45 PM

79. Obama's strength is foreign policy. He gets it right.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:06 PM

80. I am very happy to congratulate the President

when he does something right. I think anybody here would.

I reserve the right to complain about him if I wish, but it's always good to see him doing something I like.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 25, 2014, 02:16 PM

81. his best foreign policy achievement

 

K&r

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 25, 2014, 02:17 PM

82. Despite the doubts of many people here, the President snatched victory from the jaws

of defeat on this one.

I'm surprised myself, but very pleased.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jun 26, 2014, 08:37 AM

86. Smartest President in our times by far

I love that by voting I was part of getting this man in the White House. Hell Yeah I say

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