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http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/06/why-elizabeth-warren-should-take-hillary-clinton-and-run-us-presidencyI do really hope EW will change her mind, and try to show up onj next presidential primaries. Because, she's is JUST A REAL FIGHTER OF CORPORATION, unlike, Hillary and her husband, who had always allied with them when it suited their personal promotion and agenda.
I think Dems are majority hoping for Hillary because her candidacy remembers sweeter era when economy was growing and job were created. But please, wake up folks. The world has changed. And Hillary will just pursue a system which is deadly broken.
GO LIZ!!!!!
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)warrior1
(12,325 posts)mylye2222
(2,992 posts)that she wouldn't seek the WH again, too....
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Just because she said she isn't running doesn't mean we still can't wish for it. Or, doesn't mean we can't push her to change her mind.
Although, I guess if I was a Hillary supporter I sure would want people to shut up about it.
krawhitham
(4,882 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)He was rude and crude but she didn't do a good job of answering his questions and speaking to the larger issues. She is all about thwarting big banks and big financial issues especially as they relate to students and some middle income. She seems to be really light on foreign affairs, not inexperienced but just not interested. And some of her history with some social issues are not impressive to me as a democrat. I still thing she would be a great person to run the consumer protection agency but not President.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)get your head out of the fantasy....unless you really dont care if we have a repeat of the Bush/Cheney years
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)will repeatedly give golden gifts to the RW.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)With the notable exception of the ACA.
totodeinhere
(13,274 posts)whatever Bozo the Republicans put up.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)quit thinking like a nader supporter....we know how that worked out for america don't we?
Logical
(22,457 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)you can vote for Elizabeth Warren is if you live in Mass.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)The Repukes offer a full menu of insanity, from far right to full-moon barking mad. Democrats hug the center right. That may be sound electoral strategy but it plays right into the hands of the One Percenters.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)for the nation
djean111
(14,255 posts)I believe this is why there seems to be a concerted effort to squash any primary - just anoint the one-percenter chosen one, so there won't be all those inconvenient YouTubes of Hillary pretending to be what used to be a Democrat.
Will there be a "Vote for Hillary - the Lesser of two Evils" bumper sticker? Because that seems to be the meme nowadays.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Hillary Clinton forgets the 90s: Our latest gilded age and our latest phony populists
The gilded age Clinton now laments had its roots in the dark side of Bill's economic record. So why trust her now?
http://www.salon.com/2014/06/22/hillary_clinton_forgets_the_90s_our_latest_gilded_age_and_our_latest_phony_populists/
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)She is NOT TRUSTWORTHLY TO ME absolutely not!
Armstead
(47,803 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Any dragging of Hillary to the left would be just for show.
We saw a 62 - to 64% turnout for one Barack Obama back in November 2008.
This happened because people felt like he would make a difference.
By 2012, the writing was on the wall, and only 54% of all eligible voters turned out.
From tabling here in Lake County Calif., believe me, the turnout in 2016 will be pathetic if we only get a choice between Corporatist from Party A or Corporatist from Party B.
i was not allowed to talk to people while I tabled. But people told me that the idea that voting for the "lesser of two evils" made them ill, and was permanently turning them off politics.
The meme might as well be "You peons can't make a difference, so just shut up and vote for the Dems as they smile more than the Republicans while they screw you over."
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)to woo the disgruntled Republicans in the Lieberman/Goldman-Sachs-O-Money Wing of the Party. A primary fight with Sen Warren would be very difficult for HRC. To win the Lieberman/Goldman-Sachs Wing she must denounce the left.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Yeah, we need a third party, was was Democrat is now Republican, and what was Republican is now batshit crazy, mean, and greedy. The Dem party is just more polite.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)from the big corporate control, like Goldman-Sachs.
djean111
(14,255 posts)and ain't giving it back any time soon.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)If we can get our party back, we are lost.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)need to reflect on placing positive thoughts on all possible candidates and we do not need to continue to produce negative information on any of the candidates. It can have negative thoughts placed towards the candidate you may be trying to elevate.
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)rickyhall
(4,889 posts)That if he gets the nomination it might drive the Dem. candidate to the left.
I have no link because I don't remember where I read it. Sorry.
djean111
(14,255 posts)If the candidate is Hillary, it would just be temporary parking.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)joshcryer
(62,480 posts)FiggyJay
(55 posts)I don't think that anybody who was in favor of going to war with Iraq should be allowed to run for President. Also, anybody who is friends with Don Tyson, the chicken torturer, does not have my vote. I could go on and on......
MineralMan
(147,463 posts)announce their candidacy. Until then, nobody will. Once candidates appear and announce, we'll be able to promote the ones we like.
GOTV 2014!
marble falls
(62,020 posts)mulsh
(2,959 posts)Should she ever decide to run for President I would vote for her. I hope she makes that decision after at least one full term as a Senator. It would enable her to learn more fully how to negotiate the labyrinth that is Washington.
I think that like Ted Kennedy she can probably be more beneficial to more people as a senator than as a president. If she never runs for any higher office we will at least have the benefit of her senatorial career. Even people like me who don't live in her district. I also think she would make a fine president. I hope I get the chance to vote for her someday.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)She has a lifetime of good she can do as a senator.
As president, she may have 4 years, if she's lucky.
The RWNJs will not stand for a 'left-leaning' POTUS.
They(RWNJ) still have the power in government.
They control the CIA, NSA and Cheney's secret government.
You didn't think that went away w/Obama's election did you?
I would like Sen. Warren to have a long and useful position in government.
That will not happen if she runs for the presidency.
I honestly fear for her life if she does. Too much history to ignore.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)freebrew
(1,917 posts)it would certainly start a conversation in the right direction.
I hope her the best whatever she decides.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)That's why I'm saving up my membership money for the general election so that I can donate it to who ever is the Democratic candidate.
I actually want to help my party win the presidency.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)It's a good thing she can take it! The good news is Hillary's supporters are all big time bankers and there are not many of them so it is a small voting block. She does have a lot of banking groupies among third way Dems however which will guarantee some really viscous attacks on Warren that will backfire just like the racist shit she pulled backfired last time big money ran her.
It would be the primary of Goldman Sachs vs those that hate big money crooks (the 99%). They have the money but that is all they have and $$$ does not translate into likability.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Vincardog
(20,234 posts)are having her forced down their throats as the "inevitable" candidate. We saw how that worked out last time. On the issues HRC is WAY to the corporate side against the majority
of American's wishes. The last thing we need is another Clinton pushing the same pro Corporate policies that have decimate the World economy for the last 30 years.
GO LIZ!!!!!
Overseas
(12,121 posts)Kablooie
(18,755 posts)While it's still in play, just about all corporate campaign money would be given to Warren's opponent no matter who it is.
She might have a difficult time building up a competing campaign budget.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The primaries need to be open to all, and the debate forums need to be run by IMPARTIAL moderators, like the League of Women Voters. The Presidential Debate Corporation (or whoever it was) that decided who would be invited to debates is the worst idea ever!
WillyT
(72,631 posts)RandySF
(70,439 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)... from the right.
We need Elizabeth, or some other progressive in the White House, not another neo-con dressed as a Democrat.
Reter
(2,188 posts)Clinton would use that against her in the primaries.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)one month ago Warren said "she wasn't there yet" regarding an endorsement of Clinton.
I think you are seeing things that aren't really there.
Reter
(2,188 posts)Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)Is a far cry from endorsing her.
It is not hard to see why Warren is hesitant to endorse her campaign.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,343 posts)Besides, if Hillary runs then I do not believe Warren will run. The two are not the mortal enemies DU likes to make them out to be.
At any rate, if she does run then I will be supporting Hillary.
GO HILLARY!!!!