Glenn Beck: 'Liberals, You Were Right' About Iraq War

[Quixote1818]

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"From the beginning, most people on the left were against going into Iraq. I wasn’t.... Liberals, you were right. We shouldn’t have."

Beck made this surprising declaration on his radio show on Tuesday while discussing the widening rift between Republicans and Democrats. He urged both parties to come together to oppose another war in Iraq.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/17/glenn-beck-iraq-war_n_5505424.html

[warrior1]

1. We're right about everything else.

[NightWatcher]

2. First Pat Robertson, now Beckkk, Somebody hold me, I'm scared

[scarletwoman]

5. It's obviously one of the signs of the Apocalypse.

I, for one, shall look into opening the first ski resort in Hell.

[Xipe Totec]

9. It's the Schmuckocalypse. nt

[BlancheSplanchnik]

66. Lolol!

Tipping point.

We're ahead of the curve. We always have been. The stupids are catching up. Finally.

This should cast a different light on the word, "liberal", now, shouldn't it?

[LiberalElite]

41. Good idea because

Hell must have just frozen over!

[FrodosPet]

58. Pushing 80 as of 1:23pm

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=Hell%2C+MI

[FrodosPet]

56. Mt Brighton is just 15 miles away from Hell

http://goo.gl/maps/9KSC0

It is said that people in Hell want ice cream. They've got it.

http://www.lccvb.org/screams.html

[Califa]

80. Not a sign of the Apocalypse

but instead it's a sign that the right wing has gone all warm and fuzzy as a means to get people who are stupid or have very short memories or both to vote for them.

[Cha]

14. LOL! I just read ol Pat Robertson's scolding bush for selling us a bill of goods! I said

"well, when you've lost Pat Robertson.." and now glenn beck?! I demand to know wth is going on!?!!

[dixiegrrrrl]

43. Pat robertson is against teh ApocOlypse?

I thought utter destruction in the ME was what the Fundies wanted, so they could rapture...or rupture...or something.

[Voice for Peace]

61. I had to find a link for that.. here it is for anybody wanting it.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/pat-robertson-blames-bushs-war-with-iraq-for-outbreak-of-violence-we-were-sold-a-bill-of-goods-121760/

Controversial televangelist Pat Robertson recently denounced the decision of former President George W. Bush to go to war in Iraq, linking it to the recent outbreak of violence in the Middle Eastern country.

On a Monday broadcast of "The 700 Club," the former Bush supporter was asked by a viewer during his "Bring It On" segment about the current situation in Iraq.

"George Bush went into Iraq with approval from Congress, but with disapproval of most other countries. We broke it, now it is our responsibility to fix it. Is there hope? How does this fit into the plans of Almighty God?" asked the viewer.

Regarding the onset of war over 10 years ago, Robertson responded that "it was a great mistake to go in there."

"To sell the American people on Weapons of Mass Destruction, it was a lot of nonsense and we were sold a bill of goods," said Robertson.

[btrflykng9]

64. +1

[peabody]

3. That's not the only thing we are right about!

[MH1]

4. Well .... I'm thinking his crystal ball is telling him that Obama will be forced to do something

that involves our military, thus allowing Beckwad to say that Obama owns it now.

Nope, not ready to take anything that p.o.s. says at face value.

[Quixote1818]

45. Would not surprise me. nt

[tridim]

77. So something that is 180 degrees out of character for the President wouldn't surprise you?

Why?

History has proven over and over that Obama is level-headed and smart, he does the right thing every time. yet you still don't trust his judgment after 6 years. Why?

Do you trust anybody?

[WhiteTara]

6. Now shut the F*ck up, you idiot. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. I am checking if there are pigs flying

[Aerows]

10. Some people in hell

just strapped on snowshoes!

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. LMAO

[malaise]

22. DUzy

[Zambero]

27. Actually ice skates

Since it has frozen over!

[Jackpine Radical]

11. In that case, check both Beck & Limbaugh

for wings.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. LMAO!!!!

[Uncle Joe]

30. This one was sighted over the ocean... I believe one of its' parents

had sexual relations with our national bird!

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. Ah, that explains it.

what does the poor thing eat? Somehow I would say fishing Salmon, or other fish is not easy for it.

[Uncle Joe]

34. It's not easy but they make do, they're most adept at ice fishing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. So they also work for Geico?

[Uncle Joe]

36. The lucky ones, some of the less fortunate are reduced to prostitution.

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. Poor piggies

[Uncle Joe]

38. It does break your heart.

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. Well, now they have something to celebrate

many of us are looking up and finally seeing them! Perhaps we can do something about their plight. Just keep the human rights groups out of it.

[Aerows]

8. Even a broken clock

is right twice a day. Beck is crazy, but even he isn't crazy enough to say getting involved in Iraq was and is a good idea.

[Jackpine Radical]

13. That makes hims saner than the average Neocon.

Which is kinda fuckin' scary in itself.

[JHB]

47. Not even that in this case.

His full "liberals were right" quote retains his caricature of liberals:

From the beginning, most people on the left were against going into Iraq. I wasn’t. At the time I believed that the United States was under threat from Saddam Hussein. I really truly believed that Saddam Hussein was funding terrorists. We knew that. He was funding the terrorists in Hamas. We knew that he was giving money. We could track that. We knew he hated us. We knew that without a shadow of a doubt. It wasn’t much or a stretch to believe that he would fund a terror strike against us, especially since he would say that. So I took him at his word.
Now, in spite of the things I felt at the time when we went into war, liberals said: We shouldn’t get involved. We shouldn’t nation-build. And there was no indication the people of Iraq had the will to be free. I thought that was insulting at the time. Everybody wants to be free. They said we couldn’t force freedom on people. Let me lead with my mistakes. You are right. Liberals, you were right. We shouldn’t have.

That's not what the anti-war people were saying. Even on this narrow part of it, we weren't saying "they had no will to be free" or "we couldn't force freedom on them". We were noting the distinct lack of a plan to deal with Iraq's many internal fissures, whereas the Bushies were talking as if a democracy would form out of sunshine and lollipops, and had no "Plan B" if any part of their whole string of assumptions didn't pan out.

[MattBaggins]

12. Does this mean half of DU will now be for the war

[Jackpine Radical]

15. Only if Obama goes in.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. And ONLY some

some of us will continue to be consistent, see NSA for example.

[A Simple Game]

50. And somehow they will find a way to justify their 180 degree change.

Some may even spin so fast they don't even notice their change in direction.

President or party before country, it's so... so... I hate to say it but it's true... so Republican.

[Quixote1818]

18. He is probably courting the Libertarians which make up most of his audience. nt

[ohheckyeah]

19. I'm not stoned or drunk

so I must have a brain blip going on....I thought I read that Glenn Beck said "liberals, you were right about the Iraq War."

Nah - couldn't be.

[Stryst]

68. I'm a little stoned

So I'm glad I wasn't the only one to have to read this twice.

[Initech]

20. Took them long enough to finally admit it!

[BeyondGeography]

21. Ya live long enough...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

24. Pat Robertson, Glenn Beck, and Hillary now see the light.

[caraher]

25. My RW brother posted this on Facebook

The irony? Just a few days before, he commented on a FB post from my wife, that linked to a Robert Reich piece that, among other things, criticized Bush for the Iraq war, by hectoring "liberals" for "always blaming someone else for their mistakes."

Jackass...

[Skittles]

26. I am very reluctant to give Mr. Beck any points

very reluctant indeed

[LuvNewcastle]

32. Me too, Skittles.

That would be like giving credit to the people who signed on to PNAC for saying it was all a lie. No shit, of course they know.

[Rex]

72. FUCK GLEN BECK!

AND THE HORSE HE RODE IN ON!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

28. Of course we were fucking right, asshole!!

[gwheezie]

29. This is just Beck going for ratings

He sees the trend and is just trying to book Rand Paul

[jimlup]

33. Even a broken clock ...

Gee duh Glenn, you asshole.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

40. It's a trick. ;-)

Ol' Crocodile Tears isn't to be trusted... he's working some sort of angle.

[frylock]

42. and don't ever forget that, asshole

[grahamhgreen]

44. Dude, we are right about most everything! Welcome to the taste of sanity.

[orbitalman]

46. Shutting the Damn Bar Door...

after the horses are OUT. Same for Pat Robertson. Still Asses.

[tclambert]

49. You keep your horses in a bar? They must be happy, happy horses.

Of course, the proper place to keep the asses is on Fox News.

[leftyladyfrommo]

48. Is he on acid again? n/t

[DirkGently]

51. We were right about climate change & "FEMA deathcamps" too, Glenn.

Wonder how Iraq fits into Beck's "reason and facts optional" mindset?

[A Simple Game]

52. We do need the help.

Liberals obviously need allies in stopping this rush to war because we haven't seemed to be able to stop it on our own.

Conservatives don't seem to be able to think on their own so need leaders to tell them what to think, Beck is one of those leaders, at least on this point he and Robertson can start to turn the tide in our favor, I wouldn't expect much on the social agenda.

Who do you think is going to change the current thinking of conservatives? President Obama?

[MisterP]

65. it doesn't even have to be a real alliance, just pointing out, "see, even THEY'RE against it!"

similarly, when Dems and the New Atheists banged the war drums in the name of pacification and civilization 2001-present, that actually had a disproportionate effect in favor of support for the war, by preventing opponents of Islamophobia from saying it was just the fundies acting up again; if A makes fun of B's saying India's poor because it has more than one god or Florida gets hurricanes because DisneyWorld has Gay Days, but A agrees with B that sharia is just around the corner in Manchester or Cheyenne and we have to Stop Those Dusky Savages two continents away, then that makes the latter claim seem plausible: it's truthiness

[DinahMoeHum]

53. Broken clock, blind squirrel. . .etc.

(Yawn!)

[Dopers_Greed]

54. Hell has frozen over

I can't believe this. A wingnut pundit actually admitted they were wrong.

[superpatriotman]

55. I'm still not buying your books, asshole

Shove your mea culpa.

[Iggo]

57. Glenn Beck: "I'm a dick."

[90-percent]

59. I know this will be met with automatic derision by my DU mates, but............

Please don't jump to the conclusion that I'm some sort of rightie troll. I just like to do oppo research, which has in the -past resulted in a trial by a jury of my DU peers.

I facebooked the vid yesterday. If this were the only thing Beck ever said publicly, I would contend he was the greatest journalist in recent history. However, knowing something of his infuriating body of work, I understand the DU concerns Glenn may be more about repositioning his career than actual professional journalism. I do a lot more FB now simply because I get to engage and see the other point of view of my conservative friends. DU is preaching to the Choir and FB is good for reaching across the aisle to the conservative side. Some may be aghast that I can even compliment him, but I try to be fair and call 'em the way I see 'em.

My FB post;

You can tell the universe is spinning off it's axis when Jim Be***** posts something from Glenn Beck on his Facebook Wall. Interesting discussion about maybe we don't disagree with each other as much as we were lead to believe by our MSM? And maybe we have more in common than we have differences? I predict Glenn will be guesting on the Rachel Maddow show within a week!

Wow! This is the first time in my life I've listened to Glenn for more than 15 seconds and I am impressed. Listened to all 15 minutes and 35 seconds. He has one damn good radio voice! And what he has to say here is both very, very courageous, and also very patriotic. The sign of a good critical thinker is one that can revise their point of view based on new and/or better information.

-90% Jimmy

[Fantastic Anarchist]

60. I don't need this bozo to let me know I was right.

He's not even a second thought to me.

[Hekate]

62. Robertson, Beck -- who next will decide Apocalypse in the Middle East doesn't look so great anymore?

Anyone check to see if Hell's temperatures are at least moderating?

[SomethingFishy]

63. So the Satanist, Nazi, Brainless liberals were right?

So what does that make Glen?

Wrong. Again.

[nxylas]

67. Gee, I wonder what the difference is between this Iraq war and the last one

Does anyone seriously think he'd be saying this stuff if it were President McCain or President Romney planning this war?

[DeSwiss]

69. ****BREAKING**** HELL FROZEN SOLID.......

...ALL FALLEN ANGEL FLIGHTS AND VOYAGES ON THE RIVER STYX HAVE BEEN CANCELLED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE!!!



- I guess Beck was more powerful than we realized......

K&R

[Hissyspit]

70. Fucking grifter.

[Rex]

71. He is desperate for new revenue streams...all he has is his mouth to make money with.

He burnt his bridges long ago imo. FUCK HIM.

[iamthebandfanman]

73. And I could still care less

what Glenn Beck has to say.

[lonestarnot]

74. Did the nutter come to this conclusion all by himself.

[McCamy Taylor]

75. I feel dirty. Glenn Beck agrees with me.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

76. LOL, like we need that prick's validation that we were right. Fuck off Beck.

[nyabingi]

78. These right-wingers coming out after the fact

and saying they were wrong does not impress me in the least.

They knew they were wrong in the first place (as they are about pretty much everything) but are too ideologically driven to admit it.

[rurallib]

79. Appears to be a change in RW talking points. Another post

talks about how Megan Fox questioned Cheney.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025120460

So we must ask why?
My speculation:
1) they realize that being in favor of anymore action in Iraq is hugely unpopular and if Obama sends troops back in they are positioned to blame him. - while at the same time blaming him if he doesn't

2) they are trying to get a meme they can beat Hillary up with - "she voted for the war."