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doxydad

(1,363 posts)
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 08:22 AM Jun 2014

This Gun Nut Says Most School Shootings Aren’t Real

The conservative reporter claims to have ‘debunked’ a report showing the staggering number of school shootings in America. But Johnson’s semantic gymnastics can’t change the facts.

Gun nuts could barely contain their glee when former Daily Caller reporter Charles Johnson known for his accuracy and attention to detail, went on a Twitter truth quest to debunk school shooting statistics published this week by Everytown, a gun-control advocacy group.

Everytown’s most recent report shows 74 school shootings since the 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown. The umbrella group, made up of former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg’s Mayors Against Illegal Guns and Shannon Watts’ Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, is clear about how they arrive at that tally: they count school shootings as anytime a gun goes off inside a school building or grounds. But Johnson, intrepid journalist that he is, was skeptical. In what may be the most tortuous sentence ever constructed, he wrote, “It’s not a school shooting when someone goes and shoots a specific person on campus. It’s a shooting that happens to take place at school.”

CNN took the bait and dissected Everytown’s list to come to their own count, settling on 15 school shootings, defined as a minor or adult actively shooting inside or near a school.

The crux of Johnson’s and now CNN’s position is that shootings that arise from arguments, or gang violence, or suicides, aren’t, as Johnson put it, “mass school shootings and shouldn't be treated as such.” It’s important to note the only person using the word “mass” is Johnson. Everytown says that they document as many school shootings as they see reported in the media.

So Johnson “debunked” something that Everytown never claimed. But he was proving a point here: that some school shootings count and others don’t. In Johson’s view, most of the incidents where guns have gone off inside a school are “fake”—i.e., they don’t count as school shootings.

So how many students have to die before it counts as a “school shooting”? Is a school with students in gangs an automatic disqualification? Let’s look at a few and figure out Johnson’s twisted logic together.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/12/debunking-charles-johnson-s-ridiculous-school-shooting-denial.html
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This Gun Nut Says Most School Shootings Aren’t Real (Original Post) doxydad Jun 2014 OP
'It wasn't an airliner that hit the Pentagon' 'Jesus didn't exist' 'There was no moon landing' onehandle Jun 2014 #1
Indeed, gunners: "So how many students have to die before it counts as a “school shooting”? hlthe2b Jun 2014 #2
Well they might reason ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #3

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. 'It wasn't an airliner that hit the Pentagon' 'Jesus didn't exist' 'There was no moon landing'
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 08:54 AM
Jun 2014

An idiot perverting the facts in their favor is not debunking.

hlthe2b

(102,150 posts)
2. Indeed, gunners: "So how many students have to die before it counts as a “school shooting”?
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 09:12 AM
Jun 2014

It is this callous disregard for life that is going to cost the extremist gun movement in the end. No sympathy for any loss of life, but only for themselves in fear of some inconvenience that even the mildest gun regulations might bring.

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