Fine. I'll say it. I will vote for Hillary if she's the nominee.

[trumad]

Along with 65 to 70 million other Americans.

Now why would I do that???? Maybe--- just maybe---it's because the other candidate will be a fucking white Male Republican.

Jesus Christ on a Trailer Hitch!

[el_bryanto]

1. Well you never know - it might be Palin. nt

[trumad]

2. You have a better chance of being the Republican nominee

[riqster]

6. We hope.

[el_bryanto]

8. Really? Do I have to reregister as a Republican? I mean sure I despise them but

for the chance to be a nominee . . . . still campaigning seems like a lot of work. I'm going to have to pass.

Bryant

[billhicks76]

76. Hillary Reminds Me Of Republicans

She comes off as disingenuous, fake, craven, pompous and tone deaf. I don't trust her...she's like a used car salesman. No wonder she is a military industrial complex supporting hawk. I want Warren but yeah we know she isn't running. Maybe we can convince her. I know a lot of people that won't vote if it's Clinton vs Bush. They don't care about the lesser of two evils argument anymore as its pushed them to believe only radical, systemic change will mean anything now. This is of course the fault of moderates who pushed the center to the right and viable supporters out of the process with cynicism. I do like that she acts like a fighter...something Obama could use but it means nothing without trust. Being forced into a choice between two candidates that won't represent us isn't going to float much longer. Thinking it will is a static view and history as it occurs is dynamic. Threatening people with another Bush is no way to win support, hope and eventually change. Dead broke huh? Is she kidding? That's beyond a gaffe. It's calculated stupidity and loftiness.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

62. We can only hope so

More likely she'll be a paid "cheerleader". Hillary will be on the stump this fall for Democrats. Note the difference between Hillary speaking out vs Palin pablum.

[Ken Burch]

64. Or a Carson-Jindal ticket. n/t.

[WhiteTara]

82. You're so funny. nt

[hrmjustin]

3. I voted for her 5 times already and will vote for her again.

[riqster]

4. This. The GOP are evil motherfuckers.

[Aerows]

5. Poor Jesus

He finds Himself on everything from a trailer hitch, a pogo stick to a cracker.

[riqster]

10. And in teapots. Poor guy.

Just hope the dormouse cleaned up before he turned the place over.

[trumad]

11. And toast

[riqster]

21. Dude's supposed to be omnipresent, so it shouldn't be too hard on him.

Here's a nice little site: http://stuffthatlookslikejesus.com

[Aerows]

34. Blessed

Lord Cheesus Toast

[KansDem]

48. Don't forget tortillas and potato chips!

I've always wondered why Jesus appears in food high in carbs...

[mountain grammy]

77. Ok, the one on the left maybe, but the one on the right looks like Mae West

[DesertRat]

107. It does look like Mae West!

[Stardust]

98. I recently spotted Him in someone's brain.

Took a screenshot but can't figure out how to include it in a post. Dang! Perfect opportunity to share this wondrous vision!

[greatauntoftriplets]

7. I'm with you.

It's 18 months until the first primaries/Iowa caucuses and more than two years until the 2016 election. No one has announced yet.

Not only will the Republican candidate be a fucking white male, he'll be batshit crazy.

[Iliyah]

47. LOL - all the GOP candidates will be batshit crazy trying to out do each other.

[greatauntoftriplets]

49. They will be that!

I think it's a requirement to be a Republican.

[madokie]

9. So will I

I'm ready to see a Woman President. This would be as good of a time as any too.

[riqster]

17. 12 years of dem Prexies, the color line and glass ceiling gone? Fuck yeah.

[JaneyVee]

12. A voice of reason.

[blkmusclmachine]

68. Clinton/Cuomo

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[rpannier]

116. Cuomo would force me to really rethink my vote

Fortunately they're both registered in New York
I guess Cuomo could always move to Wyoming

[Exposethefrauds]

13. Thanks for this we can see who all the corporate Dems are

[greatauntoftriplets]

20. Making a list?

[hrmjustin]

23. looks like we are on the shit list.

[greatauntoftriplets]

25. And I don't even know who I'll vote for in the Illinois primary 20 months from now!

It's going to be a long 2+ years.

[hrmjustin]

28. lol then your only a potential corporate democrat.

[greatauntoftriplets]

33. Whatever!

At least I never voted for Ray-goon.

[hrmjustin]

36. Personally I have never met a Republican worth voting for.

[greatauntoftriplets]

40. Me either.

Maybe that's why I've been a Democrat since I was 6.

[meti57b]

90. Me either. I have never voted for a Republican and never will.

[xmas74]

88. Please add me to the shit list.

I'm here with you. I voted and campaigned for her in the primaries, donated money and was happy to do so. My daughter even drew a picture for her and we mailed it.

Everyone talks about Warren. She's the current darling of the party. Do I like her? Sure, I think she's great but I don't think she's ready for such a stage. I'll be proud to campaign, to donate, and to vote for HRC if she really does it in 2016.

[mdbl]

120. Funny you put it that way

Everyone talks about Warren. She's the current darling of the party. Do I like her? Sure, I think she's great but I don't think she's ready for such a stage.

It's just a play and all the participants are actors. Makes me wonder what any of them are really like.

[MineralMan]

24. Making a list and checking it twice.

Gonna find out who's naughty and nice.

This is DU, Exposethefrauds. Democratic Underground.

[hrmjustin]

27. How dare we vote democratic!

Btw I am not a corporate democrat and find it laughable that you would call us that.

[LanternWaste]

35. That would be anyone who disagrees with you. Got it.

That would be anyone who disagrees with you. Got it. Bless your little heart.

[Cha]

67. Oh boo friggin hoo.

[Hekate]

79. Making a list? Oooo, scary.

[NorthCarolina]

89. You don't need a post like this to figure that out. They're anything BUT transparent. nt.

[seabeyond]

118. Or who understands the importance if Supreme Court nominations. That is a narrow view you have

[yallerdawg]

14. Me too. n/t

[AverageJoe90]

15. HRC may not be perfect, but she is truckloads better & more likable than any Repub I can think of...

.....just that.

[ScreamingMeemie]

16. Fine. I'll say it. Sorry tru...trashing your thread... Wendy in 2014!

[daleanime]

18. OK, fine I'll said....

"IF" she is that nominee, I will vote for her. In the mean time I will do everything I can, work, talk, and yes give what little $ I can, to get us the better candidate we need.





This includes shooting holes in this 'idea' that no other choice is possible every time some one floats that balloon.

[mopinko]

19. i will work for her. her work for women and girls trumps all for me.

would prolly work for bernie in the primary, because i am dying for that debate.

he is gonna run. taking bets.


eta going to the book event in chicago tomorrow

[Kingofalldems]

22. Of course. DU is for Democrats last time I checked.

[DURHAM D]

50. Apparently not.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025075831

[sufrommich]

26. Not only will I vote for her,I'll be one of her many

campaign volunteers.

[jimlup]

29. It wouldn't be a major problem that the other candidate would be a white male but...

The third part is unacceptable and that is exactly why I will join you.

[Lifelong Protester]

30. I will too. The alternative is too awful to contemplate.

People can grow and change while in office.

[Stardust]

99. Exactly. Nt

[freshwest]

31. NO 'Fucking Republican' will ever get my vote. EOM.

[DesertDiamond]

32. Me too. I have huge doubts about her, but it's true, she will always be better than the alternative.

[Gothmog]

37. Hillary Clinton is the only Democratic candidate who could be Texas in play

I would love to see Texas become a true battleground state

[Jackpine Radical]

38. I don't care if the Republican nominee is

a black lesbian. I still ain't voting for her.

[Rex]

39. Yeah same here, really don't know what else I would do.

I'm going to vote for whoever wins the Democratic primary. Like I always do.

[SCantiGOP]

41. anyone who says

that they would not vote against Ryan, Romney, Paul or whomever the evil party puts up is, in my opinion, insane. Let's put 2 more rabid right wingers on the Supreme Court and amend the constitution to ban abortion and establish a Christian Republic ----------- what would you think then about boycotting the election because the Democratic candidate did not meet your standard of perfection?

[TheKentuckian]

70. Why is that a concern? I thought the whole point of Hillary Clinton is that she is a slam dunk?

If not then what the hell do we want her for?

If you need donations, shoe leather, and elbow grease then we can look elsewhere?

So, is she inevitable or in danger of loosing out to the dregs of the delusional clown car?

[Iggo]

42. I'll vote for whoever the democratic nominee is in the general election.

And I'll certainly vote for a democrat in the primary, too.

[stonecutter357]

43. K&R

[The Magistrate]

44. Of Course I Will Vote For The Party's Nominee, Sir

Anyone who will not can pound sand.

[Hekate]

80. There seem to be several current threads of DUers a-pounding that sand, Sir.

Amazing stuff.

[LuckyTheDog]

45. I will, too. Of course.

But I have to say... I'll be looking hard at other candidates during the primaries.

[ismnotwasm]

46. K&R

I'll proudly vote for her.

[randys1]

51. But what if Ralph Nader runs and you can vote for him causing the end of all human life almost

as did happen in 2000...

[CTyankee]

60. yep, well, having a RW repuke in office might very well help end the lives of many young

women, if said RW repuke is elected and appoints a RW, anti-choice justice to SCOTUS...

NO THANKS. I have granddaughters.

[randys1]

66. Killing Women who dont obey will be a top priority for ANY republican or teapartier

Sounds crazy to say that?

Nah, fact, simple fact.

A. They will make it so states can outlaw abortion
B. Women in those states with no money will get illegal abortions, some will die

period

Other Women in those states will go to prison for using birth control and attempting illegal abortions. Doctors who dare help Women will go to prison.

No, make no mistake, they hate Women and the war is on

[get the red out]

52. I agree with you

It is the only way to preserve any hope of a future for this country.

[Iliyah]

53. K & R

GOPers have already started their opposition to her for anything. Saying she is too old, need a walker and brain damaged.

[azurnoir]

54. IF Hillary is the candidate I'll vote for her because she's a Democrat

and really no other reason

[AtheistCrusader]

55. I won't celebrate, but I'll vote for her.

Honestly I think there are better potential candidates. But I'm sure as fuck not staying home.

[TheCowsCameHome]

56. I'd have to think about that for a bit.

All done. I'll vote for her.

[mikekohr]

57. Warren, Schweitzer, Clinton in that order, but Democrat regardless

The other side is less numerous but FAR more monolithic (and idiotic) and motivated to vote.

"We can all hang together or all hang separately." -B. Franklin- The RNC is tying the noose right now. What's your neck size?

[SleeplessinSoCal]

65. Schweitzer?

I've heard him speak many times, yet can remember nothing he has said.

[Cha]

69. Fracking Schweitzer.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

93. Maybe that's why I have the mental block

Wonder what he makes of science . . .

[mikekohr]

104. Schweitzer can win in Red State America and bring House members in with him

Bring FDR back to life, give him or candidates Warren, Clinton or even a Bernie Sanders the same Congress President Obama has had to deal with and we get the same stalemate and inaction.

It's simple math. We need the White House 1st, but the House and Senate are also indispensible. We live in a system slanted heavily in favor small rural states. Republican gerrymandering in 2011, and Democratic concentration in cities and major population centers, has made that advantage more onerous for us.

Ignore that fact at our peril.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

115. FDR was from NY

Here's a take on some of his ideas:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/06/09/schweitzers_bizarre_strategy_for_challenging_hillary_clinton_122904.html

“..... As Ron Paul wrote in 2010: One of the most important sectors of the economy, the banking sector, was already quasi-socialist or corporatist. The Federal Reserve, with its monopoly powers and its chairman and governors appointed by the president, has been an extra-constitutional branch of government since its creation in 1913.”

That’s how libertarians view the central bank and the involvement of government to regulate the banking system. And yes, Woodrow Wilson had to compromise between progressives and bankers in order to get it through Congress. But Franklin D. Roosevelt had to balance those interests as well when he expanded the Federal Reserve’s power over monetary policy. And no one in the Democratic Party with any political ambitions would dare call FDR a corporatist, let alone a violator of the Constitution on behalf of the banks.

So which of these baseless critiques of Wilson is Schweitzer embracing? And what does it say about his fundamental philosophy when he traffics in such shoddy history?

[mikekohr]

147. Thanks for the link. nt

[mikekohr]

148. Ok, I am done with such silly thinking.

President Obama was right to tell Schweiter to tone it down. He should have listened.

[liberaltrucker]

58. So will I

nt

[marble falls]

59. There is no doubt in my mind. I can not imagine a GOP candidate I would vote for over 99% of....

Democrats even long shot candidates. There's a good future President in Sen Al Franken. Elizabeth Warren is my hope. But I would certainly vote for Hillary without blinking otherwise. I think Grayson has his moments. And I am Republican.

[blkmusclmachine]

61. Hillary, Obama's (More Conservative) Third (Way) Term

[Cha]

63. But, "Hillary!!1111" "I'm going to sit home

and pout that day "

[No Vested Interest]

71. I will vote for the Democratic nominee; I'll will vote for Hillary

if she is the nominee.

I would expect the GOP to be brutal to her during the campaign and during her tenure in office.
The hate will be so thick you'll be able to smell it in the air.

[hue]

72. Too true!! I'll vote For Hillary cause it'll make the 1%'ers fearful, mad & more insane...

[djean111]

127. The 1% are just fine with Hillary. Wall Street loves her.

[standingtall]

73. Presidential Elections Are Not A Game.

Every Democrat should vote for who our nominee is. You would think these folks would've have learned not to fall for the both parties are exactly the same meme after the 2000 election. The Ralph Nader's of the world can afford to tell you we should impeach our President or the Jesse Venturas of the world can claim to be for labor rights while rubbing elbows with Alex Jones and Ron Paul and that we should not support our nominee in the general election because both parties are the same according to them. Whoever the next President is will have some power to enact policies that will affect the daily lives of Americans. Will not affect the Venturas and Naders of the world as badly, because they have money. They could use social security, but they will not will not need as badly as most Americans. Food stamps will continue to be cut under a Republican President not that Nader and Ventura need those at all. National minimum wage increase. Might as well forget about it with a repuke in office.

Labors rights gutted. Gun control forget about that too. Roe vs Wade will be overturned by the even more Republican supreme court, and we will not be able to fix that any time in the foreseeable future. Suppressing Democratic turnout during the election will be a disaster. For it will also affect down ballot elections making it much harder in Republican states to ever get medicaid expanded.

[barbtries]

74. definitely

i will vote for the democratic candidate if i'm choking back bile at the ballot box.
NO republican!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[steve2470]

75. I will vote for her, too, I think she's amenable to the left

Anyone BUT a white male and Republican. That's why President Obama rocks, imho.

[Hekate]

78. I'm with you, trumad. The GOP alternative is unthinkable. nt

[WhiteTara]

81. You beat me to it.

I didn't mean to hijack your thread, but it has to be said. I vote for democratic candidates. Hell, I voted for Blanche Lincoln, republican light that she was.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

83. all these people are just seeking attention posting the 'i wont vote for the nominee shit'

to scare people before primary season.

here is overall what i think is actually going to happy

1. nobody really gives a fuck about these pouty 'i wont vote for candidate' shit. not really, maybe enough to make a du post, but otherwise not so much

2. in comparison to the republican nominee, every terry mcauliffe seems acceptable. this is always boils down to.

[cali]

86. lol. no, but believe whatever sets your heart a beating.

[Beacool]

113. This........

Actually, Terry is doing a good job in VA. A 1,000 times better than the Cooch would have been if had gotten elected.

[rury]

84. I sincerely hope someone else emerges as the Democratic nominee

in 2016. Hillary is a corporatist hawk and I can barely stand her and Bill anymore. Wouldn't mind if the Clinton's and Bushes left the political stage together.
However, if she is the nominee I will hold my nose and vote for her, but her campaign will not get a damn dime from me and I will neither phone bank nor canvass for her.
I hope I at least have an alternative to her that I can cast my ballot for in the primaries.
Come to think of it, if she is runs unopposed in the primaries, I will write somebody in rather than vote for her.

[btrflykng9]

85. Hillary will NOT be getting my vote

I will gladly take a white male Democrat if he knows how to run the country because I don't agree with Hillary's favoritism of big money.

Elizabeth Warren would have my vote if she runs.

[rury]

87. I will hold my nose and vote for her if she's the Democratic nominee

but that's it. Not donating money and not volunteering. Don't like her but she's better than any batshit crazy jackass the Rethuglikkkans will nominate.
And in the primaries I will vote for somebody else or write somebody in if she's unopposed.

[mysuzuki2]

91. I will too. I really don't care much whether the president sits or stands to pee.

I want someone who is smart and capable. Hillary is certainly that. I might say I would prefer someone more progressive but she will win if nominated, I think. And the repub nominee is likely to be a RW teabagging loony-toon. If she doen't run I don't know what will happen. We could end up with a president who makes GWB look like an Einstein.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

92. I've never voted for an R in my life and sure don't intend to start now!

[yellowwoodII]

94. So Glad

So glad you stared this thread. I've been sick of hearing about the "inevitability" of Clinton's candidacy. I don't like her. I don't like that she voted for the Iraq War. If I as a Democrat feel that way, how much more would Independents dislike her.
But, yes, I will vote for her if she is the candidate, only because I would like her opponent even less.
I trust Elizabeth Warren.

[WovenGems]

95. A great match

Warren, we have to make her run, and for the VP some Sister that was Real Time. Two incredibly smart women on the same ticket. A conservative nightmare.

[zappaman]

96. I will vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is.

Definitely.

[underthematrix]

101. me too

[antiGOPin294]

97. Same here. At the end of the day, a GOP administration would be a disaster for this country.

We have to do everything we can to prevent the Repubs from retaking the White House in 2016. Our livelihoods are at stake here.

[Texasgal]

100. Welcome to the dark side trumad!

[neverforget]

102. I'm going to wait until the primaries to see who is actually running.

Then I will evaluate them on an individual basis and decide who I think most represents my views.

[davidpdx]

112. I feel the same way

I'm certainly not willing to roll over and play dead at this point as some have.

[nolabear]

103. And so will I.

And I'll enjoy every minute of it.

[Beacool]

105. Oh, I see what you did there.

Thank goodness that DU is not the real world. That's all I got to say.........

[Jamaal510]

109. +1

[cry baby]

106. Me, too. nt

[gtar100]

108. If for no other reason!

We rarely have the opportunity to vote for the best candidate but there's typically one that is far worse than the other. And the scum usually self identify as conservative.

[Jamaal510]

110. I'm hoping either Cain or Bachmann run again and get the nomination,

"Maybe--- just maybe---it's because the other candidate will be a fucking white Male Republican."

so that I can laugh at them during the debates.

[rhett o rick]

111. But of course you will. You dont give a crap about the death of the lower classes and you

will support the Wall Street candidate. Remember if you want a Republican in the WH, nominate Clinton-Sachs for president, AND DONT BLAME THE LEFT.

[moriah]

117. Just like I'm not supposed to blame "the left" for sending tons of money to my state....

... to run someone who never could have won Arkansas in a state election against Blanche Lincoln, causing her to lose her seat? And making me have to address my letters to my new Tea Party senator John Boozman, the optometrist who calls himself "a doctor" when defending his anti-abortion views?

Right. We're so much better equipped to defeat a fillibuster now without her and the other blue dogs who lost their seats thanks to similar tactics.

[trumad]

119. If she is running against a Republican

I will vote for her.

My hope is that the dumb asses who sit at home on election day are just a few at that.

[trumad]

124. why do you think I'm dying?

You don't know me.

[BrainDrain]

121. No Clinton...no way..no how....

not under any circumstances. She is an establishment tool, a big money pol...nothing more..and alot less than some folks around here think.

[trumad]

123. Then sit home on election day...

As I said...my only hope is there isn't to many purists who sit home on that day.

[NCTraveler]

122. People who say they will not because of principal....

are the exact same dumb fucks who voted for Nader. Exact same simpleton mentality. Don't get me wrong, I don't think every Nader voter was a dumb fuck. Many were extremely intelligent people. It is the people over about the age of 35 who didn't learn who are the DF's. Then again, I am pretty sure they are nothing but disruptor's here.

[TBF]

125. I'd rather have Warren but

I will vote for Hillary if she's the nominee. She's strong on civil, LGBT and women's rights. That's something at least.

[liberal N proud]

126. I will NEVER vote for a republican or teabagger

So whoever the Democratic nominee is, I will vote for them.

[LWolf]

128. Are people already calling for loyalty oaths 2 years before the primaries? nt

[trumad]

129. No

I think it is really hard for the Hilary haters on DU to comprehend my Op.

It says quite clearly that---"if" Hilary is the 2016 nominee for President, I will vote for her.

My loyalty lies in the fact that I would never ever vote for her opponent---which we all know will be a White Male Republican.

[LWolf]

130. I wouldn't vote for the Republican opponent either,

no matter who the nominee is.

That's not a defacto vote for HRC, though.

[trumad]

132. fine..of you say so.

[BainsBane]

131. Know what else?

The more moaning I read about how awful a hypothetical Clinton nominee is, the more I am likely to support her in the primaries.
My general approach is to not worry about candidates until there is an actual election. (Yeah, I know I'm nutty that way). I then look at their qualifications, watch the debates, and make a decision. However, given the derangement over a fantasy presidential candidate, I think I just might decide to support her now. The temper tantrums about how they'll be mad if the perfect candidate isn't handed to them on a silver platter are beyond irritating. If they want a certain candidate or type of candidate, they should damn well work for it rather than sitting around and moaning how they won't vote Democrat if they don't get their way. That tells me they aren't really Democrats anyway, and given the fact a number take reactionary positions on a host of issues, I'm not surprised they would further along the GOP's political prospects.

[countryken]

133. The responsible vote

Last time around I changed my registration to vote Newt in the primary in order to extend the republican primary bloodbath and make Mitt spend more money. I felt so dirty during this process that I had to wash my hands ten times a day. After the primary, I couldn't switch back to democrat quickly enough.

This time around, I need to vote for Bernie or Elizabeth in the primary in order to make the progressive statement in hopes that the ensuing discussion might cause Hillary to sway at least a bit to the left.

Of course I'll be 100% behind Hillary in the general election. It is our responsibility to do everything we can to prevent republicans from attaining any power at all.

[DeSwiss]

134. ....

Thanks for your simplistic reasoning. I'll pack it away along with Reagan's ''Trickle-Down Theory'' which makes similar logical leaps of faith. And has a similar track record of success.

- The lesser of two evils is STILL EVIL!!!






I know, I'm wasting electrons here......

[navarth]

137. great picture. nt

[workinclasszero]

135. I will vote for Hillary or any other democrat

who might win the nomination.

I mean WTF is the damned alternative? Some teataliban rethug freak who wants to force americans back to the feudal middle ages for cryin out loud?

Its to bad that no one is pure enough for some people but sitting out elections does nothing but give the teabaggers your vote!

[stupidicus]

136. Who won't? This is why I found the efforts of the 3rd Way hatchet people here so stupid

in the lead up to the 2012 election, given their profuse whining and worse about how those expressing concerns or criticisms of BHO over this and that at the time were traitors, etc, trying to throw the election. If anyone is gonna push people away, it's likely gonna be the wouldbe censors who would deny the right to be critical of her as has been attempted with BHO. The ways and means with which they've sought to accomplish that will no doubt have a role in pushing some over the apathy/disillusionment/dissatisfied cliff as well. It's one thing to be dissatisfied with a pol over this and that, while quite another to be told to "sit down and shut up traitor/Bushbot?Romneyite/etc".

As anyone with the political acumen and analytical skills of a 5th grader could figure out, the fear of the naked (and increasing still) rightwingnuttery will compel most to stay in the fold and make another "lesser of two evils" choice, and even most those who've been smart enough to come to learn and understand this is how the game has been rigged to work for rightwing interests in the good cop/bad cop game, largely because of the astronomical weight that must be given to the SCOTUS appointment thingy.

Her candidacy, win or lose, likely means an escalation in dem intra-party warfare of the kind we've seen throughout most of the BHO presidency, so let's all keep our rhetorical knives sharp, no?

[JEB]

138. I suppose I will, if or when it boils down to her

or one of the clowns. But it will not inspire confidence nor loyalty to the democratic party machinery. I offer my loyalty to democratic principles, not bought and payed for party alliances.

[The CCC]

139. Fine. I'll say it. I will vote for Hillary if she's the nominee.

While I don't hold out much hope for the Republicans in 2014. We do have to remember the first Republican President was a fucking white male.

[truedelphi]

140. Stockholm Syndrome. n/t

[trumad]

141. Clever....

Not!

[truedelphi]

142. I hate Monsanto, I hate endless wars, I hate

Banking appointments that favor the One Percent, I hate total Surveillance, cutbacks to seniors on account of how Social Security is being run, I hate jobs being outsourced, etc.

So what is there to like about Hillary?

We have got to be able to do better than that.

[PatrynXX]

143. I'm not voting for a Conservative

now if Hillary was running as VP with Elizabeth Warren maybe. Kinda like all the Republicans from the hilarious Tea Party who say no way will Chris Christie be the candidate . But I won't vote for Hillary the conservative out of the box. I'd rather vote for Rand Paul. At least I know what I'm getting. With Hillary you don't. I've stated this since 2007. I will however stand up for her on the Libya joke. Republicans couldn't get the idiot for near 30 yrs and a democrat does. Do'h. This is a Democratic site. I do hope my views aren't muted. (no I don't like Rand Paul... Ron.. Ron Paul I've donated to. although not in 2012. but in 2008.

I hedge left lean left tend to vote left... but always been a Libertarian too bad the tea party destroyed the word

[totodeinhere]

144. The Republican part I agree with. But the white male part I do not.

There is nothing wrong with being a white male. I am one myself. And if white male Bernie Sanders got the nomination I would enthusiastically vote for him.

[Progressive dog]

145. I'll be one of those voting for her, too.

Hillary nearly won the Democratic nomination in 2008. Most of those "Democrats" opposing her potential run in 2016, do so because she would not radically change policies from the current President, who didn't radically change policies from Bill Clinton.
Whether they like it or not, Hillary is in the main stream of the Democratic party.

[String Fiesta]

146. To all those promoting staying home...

A non-vote is a Republican vote. Your arguments against the third way are good, strong, valid arguments. But this is the real world. You'll just stay home and snuggle with your ideology while the country is handed to the Tea Party.