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Sat Jun 7, 2014, 09:42 PM

Former POW John McCain was nicknamed "Songbird" for alleged aerial info. he gave up. True or not

McCain was once attacked as he now attacks former POW Bergdahl. His defence is that there was no evidence he was a traitor, and he got to defend himself to the critics.

The hypocrisy runs deep when one is aware that McCain signed a confession in custody that he was a "black criminal"' under duress he claims.

"Lt. John McCain (H) also did radio broadcasts and more than 30 films for the Vietcong Military! I mean for gods-sake the Vietnamese (and his fellow POW's) called him SONGBIRD....since he was SINGING from the day he got there! Giving all our info up!!! After McCain was captured our the Vietnamese began shooting our planes down much more often...an increase of like 60% (thanks to songbird giving the routes, altitudes, etc)....which in turn caused America to stop flying missions over Vietnam...."

I post the allegations , the evidence, the defence and the contrarian viewpoint for fairness, as McCain seems unable to understand the term. Were there Congressional hearings just for him focused on his traitorous actions, because I do not think so.

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In his memoir Faith of My Fathers, McCain says that he initially offered the information because he was badly injured and afraid of dying. But, he wrote, "I didn't intend to keep my word."

When he was later interrogated, McCain gave his ship's name and squadron number and confirmed the target of his failed mission, he wrote. He also gave the names of the Green Bay Packers' offensive line and said they were members of his squadron.

Asked to identify future targets, he mentioned North Vietnamese cities that U.S. planes had already bombed.


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At one point, McCain broke down and signed a confession. But Timberg, the biographer, said McCain deliberately used misspellings, grammatical errors and Communist jargon to show he was writing under duress: "I am a black criminal and I have performed the deeds of an air pirate. I almost died, and the Vietnamese people saved my life . . . "

Day, a Medal of Honor winner who also is supporting McCain's campaign, said the flyer is "the most outrageous f------ lie I've ever heard."

The man behind the flyer is Gerard "Jerry" W. Kiley, 61, of Garnerville, N.Y., who says he served in Vietnam for about a year. He describes his group as a one-man operation unaffiliated with any political party or campaign. He says he opposes McCain because of the senator's efforts to normalize relations with the Vietnamese communist government and because, in his view, McCain has helped the U.S. government keep information about POWs classified.


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jan/17/vietnam-veterans-against-john-mccain/no-evidence-mccain-was-a-traitor/

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Reply Former POW John McCain was nicknamed "Songbird" for alleged aerial info. he gave up. True or not (Original post)
Fred Sanders Jun 2014 OP
jberryhill Jun 2014 #1
lumpy Jun 2014 #2
Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #3
edgineered Jun 2014 #4
Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #5
dsc Jun 2014 #8
Submariner Jun 2014 #6
truebluegreen Jun 2014 #7

Response to Fred Sanders (Original post)

Sat Jun 7, 2014, 09:56 PM

1. I thought that was his porn name

 


For a brief time during his captivity, he performed in a female impersonator show tunes review run by the camp officers. His act was "Suzy the Singapore Songbird", but they shortened it to the last word.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Original post)

Sat Jun 7, 2014, 10:03 PM

2. McCain has proved himself to be a weak-minded self serving weak-assed opportunist from the

beginning of his non-productive screwy tenure as a political 'leader'. Just shows how voter ignorance prevails in this country.

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Response to lumpy (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 7, 2014, 10:07 PM

3. Yes, but the Sunday News Shows will give the old man a warm welcome and rehab session anyway.

Because they got way too much invested in the opportunistic man who chose Palin in desperation and adopted her nihilistic approach to politics that poisons the body politic to this day.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Original post)

Sat Jun 7, 2014, 10:07 PM

4. The closing sentence of Politifact, paraphrased here:

"Because of the seriousness of the charge, ... and the clear intention to harm McCain just days before a critical Republican primary, we find this claim to be Pants on Fire wrong.", sums it up quite nicely.

The seriousness of the charge and its timing are their reasons its wrong? What is wrong is obvious - this is typical Politifact, and has nothing to do with my own ill will toward McCain.

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Response to edgineered (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 7, 2014, 10:10 PM

5. Yes, it can not be true. The charges are just too terrible and people have motives to not

tell the truth.

Not guilty!

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Response to edgineered (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 8, 2014, 12:00 AM

8. wow complaining about them

when you slice and dice that quote. You left out the absence of evidence which is a pretty big leave out.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Original post)

Sat Jun 7, 2014, 10:15 PM

6. McCain is only where he is due to his Admiral father and grandfather coat tails

At 893 out 898 in Annapolis he would have been flying Air Force transport planes, not fighter jets. His lineage got him favoritism.

Today he should be found in the lawn equipment aisle at Home Depot selling get off my lawn signs.

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Response to Submariner (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 7, 2014, 10:41 PM

7. Even with the coattails, he wasn't flying fighter jets.

 

The A-4 Skyhawk was a small bomber, something that didn't sit well with him, I think.

It wasn't the first plane he lost; without the coattails he probably wouldn't have been flying at all.

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