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Mon May 26, 2014, 02:06 PM

 

6 shot, 2 dead in yet another mass shooting in the US

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Two men were killed and at least six people injured in shootings across the city Sunday night and early Monday morning, according to police.

About 1 a.m. this morning, police responded to a report of gunfire in the 5400 block of West Haddon Avenue in the South Austin neighborhood, police said. Officers found a 25-year-old man on the sidewalk with multiple gunshot wounds to the body, Chicago Police Department News Affairs Officer Michael Sullivan said.

The man, later identified as Lance Stanton, was taken to John H. Stroger, Jr. Hospital of Cook County. Stanton, who lived in the block where he was shot, was pronounced dead at 1:36 a.m., according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

In a separate fatal shooting, a 46-year-old man was killed about 8:05 p.m. in the West Side's East Garfield Park neighborhood.

The man, later identified as Aaron Feazell, was shot multiple times in the 3300 block of West Maypole Avenue, authorities said. Feazell, of the 1400 block of S. 10th Avenue in Maywood, was pronounced dead on the scene at 8:25 p.m., according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-chicago-shootings-2-shot-on-west-side-20140525,0,1911694.story


Sadly there won't be any memorials, debates, discussions or nationwide media attention over these shootings because it happened in a poor black neighborhood and as usual the shooter or shooters will always get away because the police never bothers to look.

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Other mass shootings in poor neighborhoods you've probably never heard of

At least 7 wounded in shootings across Chicago
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Weekend violence leaves 9 dead, 47 shot
June 17, 2013
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Boy, 3, among 13 injured in Chicago park shooting

September 19, 2013
http://khon2.com/2013/09/19/boy-3-among-13-injured-in-chicago-park-shooting/

Fifteen shot across Chicago since Thursday afternoon
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http://voices.suntimes.com/news/breaking-news/five-hurt-in-south-side-shootings-since-thursday-afternoon/#.U4DY2nJdXrA

Ten men shot across Chicago Tuesday
May 20, 2014
http://voices.suntimes.com/news/breaking-news/nine-men-shot-across-chicago-tuesday/

3 DEAD, 4 HURT IN CHICAGO SHOOTINGS ON THURSDAY
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Three men shot in East Oakland
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1 Killed, 3 Injured In Bellflower Barbershop Shooting
May 23, 2014
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15-year-old dead, seven others wounded at New Orleans house party
May 23, 2014
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/05/15-year-old_dead_others_wounde.html

NOPD reports three men shot in Algiers
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http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/05/nopd_reports_three_men_shot_on.html

Three shot near Interim LSU Hospital
May 26, 2014
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/05/violent_weekend_in_new_orleans.html

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Reply 6 shot, 2 dead in yet another mass shooting in the US (Original post)
951-Riverside May 2014 OP
Niceguy1 May 2014 #1
Skidmore May 2014 #4
Niceguy1 May 2014 #33
CreekDog May 2014 #43
Niceguy1 May 2014 #56
Skidmore May 2014 #2
Duckhunter935 May 2014 #3
JaneyVee May 2014 #6
Duckhunter935 May 2014 #10
CreekDog May 2014 #45
Duckhunter935 May 2014 #49
CreekDog May 2014 #50
onehandle May 2014 #11
Eleanors38 May 2014 #14
CreekDog May 2014 #46
Eleanors38 May 2014 #53
CreekDog May 2014 #55
Eleanors38 May 2014 #15
SCVDem May 2014 #22
Art_from_Ark May 2014 #35
CreekDog May 2014 #44
Duckhunter935 May 2014 #48
Laelth May 2014 #5
Eleanors38 May 2014 #8
onehandle May 2014 #7
Eleanors38 May 2014 #9
Duckhunter935 May 2014 #13
Ghost in the Machine May 2014 #36
CreekDog May 2014 #47
Eleanors38 May 2014 #52
fried eggs May 2014 #12
Eleanors38 May 2014 #16
BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #17
onehandle May 2014 #21
blkmusclmachine May 2014 #18
billh58 May 2014 #19
Liberal Jesus Freak May 2014 #20
cantbeserious May 2014 #23
hack89 May 2014 #26
cantbeserious May 2014 #27
hack89 May 2014 #29
cantbeserious May 2014 #31
hack89 May 2014 #32
Gravitycollapse May 2014 #37
cantbeserious May 2014 #40
Nevernose May 2014 #28
hack89 May 2014 #30
NickB79 May 2014 #42
Crunchy Frog May 2014 #38
hack89 May 2014 #39
LanternWaste May 2014 #57
hack89 May 2014 #58
Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #24
Jefferson23 May 2014 #25
Doctor_J May 2014 #34
GoCubsGo May 2014 #41
valerief May 2014 #51
Skip Intro May 2014 #54
madville May 2014 #59
tclambert May 2014 #60

Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:17 PM

1. mass shooting

Refers to a single incident, not several combined

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Response to Niceguy1 (Reply #1)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:22 PM

4. It would appear to me that this is a list of several mass shootings in a very short period of time.

Is that enough dead people for us to comment on? I certainly hope so.

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #4)

Mon May 26, 2014, 07:19 PM

33. the op doesn't

Need to misrepresent to starrt a discussion. Most of the shootings are single victim incidents, located in the same city.

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Response to Niceguy1 (Reply #33)

Mon May 26, 2014, 11:46 PM

43. he's not, go away

if you don't get it, then this thread will be fine without your input.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #43)

Tue May 27, 2014, 12:21 PM

56. I guess facts

Dont matter.

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:20 PM

2. There is no way to justify these crimes nor is there any way to

justify the paranoid collections of arsenals by people in this nation.

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:21 PM

3. get rid of the drugs and the gangs

 

and this will stop. In Chicago a lot of families protect the known shooters, kind of hard for the police to do the work if people resist cooperating with them.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #3)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:25 PM

6. What gang was Adam Lanza in?

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #6)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:34 PM

10. most of the shoootings refered to in the OP

 

were Chicago and it was about the racial aspect

Nice deflection to something completely unrelated.

the one you refer to that I will not use the name is just plain old murderer. Same as the asshole that did this

On May 18, 1927, a part-time caretaker at a school in Bath, Michigan, killed 45 people, including 38 children, when he blew up a school and then killed himself, along with two first responders at the scene. Another 58 people were wounded.

http://news.yahoo.com/mass-school-bombing-1927-puts-sandy-hook-context-185608674.html



or the asshole that did this

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #10)

Mon May 26, 2014, 11:49 PM

45. stop running from your posts...YOU SAID, THIS WILL STOP

THIS.

not MOST, you said THIS will stop.

that was bullshit and you're running away from it means that you know it is.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #45)

Mon May 26, 2014, 11:59 PM

49. Nope, we will have to disagree

 

Have a great night since you are so entrenched nothing I post will satisfy you.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #49)

Tue May 27, 2014, 12:03 AM

50. You RAN AWAY from what you said

it is nonsense and it's bad enough you posted nonsense, but worse that you posted nonsense that you actually know is just that.

YOU RAN FROM IT, because you know it's BS.

you said something unequivocal, yet completely wrong, then you softened it to try to sound like you were right.

you were wrong. and dishonest too.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #6)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:35 PM

11. Ooh! Ooh! Lemme answer. He was in the 'Gun Enthusiast Gang.'

Gotta keep an eye on those 'urban' types.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #6)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:36 PM

14. The white one?

 

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #14)

Mon May 26, 2014, 11:49 PM

46. Eleanor Roosevelt's gun

that's what your screen name honors. it is what it is intended to honor.

we know what you think.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #46)

Tue May 27, 2014, 01:31 AM

53. "we know what you think." You in the NSA or something?

 

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #53)

Tue May 27, 2014, 02:06 AM

55. nope, just reading your name

and your gun apologetics.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #6)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:49 PM

15. Have you noticed the 'white privilege' aspect to killings?

 

The "4 or more, and your in!" which leaves us with -- you guessed it -- a generally white boy cull-out? The MMs (what, 63 over 3 decades?) pale in numbers when compared to the nightly drone of killing in this country, often in the same places, over and over. Damn, white folks gotta have all the attention, too!

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #3)

Mon May 26, 2014, 03:29 PM

22. Legalize the drugs

 

Now let's see what happens.

Prohibition ended and so did the reign of Capone and the rest.

(Let's Not nitpick Babyface)

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #22)

Mon May 26, 2014, 07:44 PM

35. Capone's reign essentially ended before the end of Prohibition

when he was sentenced in 1931 to 11 years imprisonment for tax evasion.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #3)

Mon May 26, 2014, 11:48 PM

44. well you pick two things that many mass shootings have no connection to, including the latest two

and yet you purposely ignore guns.

unreliable opinion, unreliable poster.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #44)

Mon May 26, 2014, 11:57 PM

48. a majority of gun deaths are not mass shootings which are quite rare

 

given the number of guns and people.

You would make a much larger impact on gun deaths where the happen most. Drugs and gangs.

I guess you could care less about them I see.

Since I am against gun bans, anything I say will not be enough to please you.

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:23 PM

5. k&r for people. We all have inherent value. n/t



-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #5)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:32 PM

8. Agreed. So little is made of drive-bys, gang shootings, territorial disputes...

 

Maybe it's another aspect of "white privilege" that whiny-ass killer college kids hog all the attention in DU. I guess it's so much safer to discuss, here.


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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:32 PM

7. (Insert NRA talking point)

(Insert more NRA talking points)

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Response to onehandle (Reply #7)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:33 PM

9. Just where are you inserting all those things?

 

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #9)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:36 PM

13. oh my,

 

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #9)

Mon May 26, 2014, 09:04 PM

36. The same place he's pulling them out of???



Of course, I wouldn't know an "NRA talking point" if I saw one, as I've never had anything to do with the organization. Maybe the poster should back up his assertions with some examples, huh?

Peace,

Ghost

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #9)

Mon May 26, 2014, 11:50 PM

47. he's calling out the two things, you and Duckhunter are the ones that posted them first



but nice try...

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #47)

Tue May 27, 2014, 01:29 AM

52. Well, with all that closed-loop re-cycling, he can keep 'em.

 

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:35 PM

12. There's a blog that's updated everyday with gun related murders

He's on vacation for the holiday, but his opening on Friday (before Rodgers) was:

Some good news going into what will undoubtedly be a violent holiday weekend: A new report from Everytown for Gun Safety found that the number of mental health records submitted to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) has tripled since 2011, preventing 65 percent more mentally ill people from purchasing firearms through licensed dealers. The reason? Increased federal funding and stronger record collection laws in 18 states.


http://nocera.blogs.nytimes.com/category/gun-report/?module=BlogCategory&version=Blog%20Post&action=Click&contentCollection=Opinion&pgtype=Blogs®ion=Header

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #12)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:52 PM

16. May also reflect a big increase in gun purchases.

 

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #12)

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:53 PM

17. that is a good piece of news, there.

small step in the right direction. I don't expect we have any repukes to thank for it, but I'll be happy to see exceptions to the rule.

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #12)

Mon May 26, 2014, 03:29 PM

21. Anything about monitoring the mental health of nuts who bring assault weapons to Chipotle?

Talk about a warning sign.

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 03:04 PM

18. Never

 

Really

Accountable

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #18)

Mon May 26, 2014, 03:18 PM

19. Except in the minds of

supporters and apologists.

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 03:19 PM

20. Isn't it just sad enough that people are killed?

Why argue about the reasons...they're all different and all the same. Tragic and, apparently, unavoidable

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 03:30 PM

23. All Empires Crumble From Within - A Crazed Gun Culture Only Hastens The Demise

eom

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #23)

Mon May 26, 2014, 03:48 PM

26. Sick societies don't cut their murder rates in half.

There were many fewer gun deaths this year than there were 20 years ago. And if we had been able to do something about our stubbornly constant sucide rate there would have been even fewer.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #26)

Mon May 26, 2014, 03:51 PM

27. Halving The Murder Rate Is A Reflection Of An Aging Society - The Crazed Gun Culture Still Prevails

eom

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #27)

Mon May 26, 2014, 03:54 PM

29. If there is less violence and fewer deaths

Then what exactly is the problem?

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Response to hack89 (Reply #29)

Mon May 26, 2014, 04:14 PM

31. One Supposes That Some Do Not See Street Killings As A Problem - That Speaks Volumes

eom

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #31)

Mon May 26, 2014, 04:46 PM

32. A huge problem

That requires a crackdown on illegal gun trafficking. Most street violence involves illegal guns wielded by criminals. A major expansion of the ATF is needed.

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #27)

Mon May 26, 2014, 09:09 PM

37. Except we're actually growing younger. The largest age demographic in the US is middle 20s.

And that just happened for the first time in decades.

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Response to Gravitycollapse (Reply #37)

Mon May 26, 2014, 11:09 PM

40. Not For The Last Twenty Years - Recent Trend Is Not History

eom

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Response to hack89 (Reply #26)

Mon May 26, 2014, 03:53 PM

28. Do you have a precise number?

Do you have a precise number of how many gun deaths are acceptable? And what's the number of gun deaths that indicate a sick society, versus one in which people get blown away all the fucking time and yet everything is hunky dory? Because clearly, in your mind, there is an acceptable number of innocent lives lost so that people can continue playing with their lethal toys.

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #28)

Mon May 26, 2014, 03:57 PM

30. A steady decline in deaths is what I hope for

Just like the past 20 some odd years. I hope that every year continues to be safer than the year before.

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #28)

Mon May 26, 2014, 11:41 PM

42. NPR had a good article on the large decline in gun violence

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/07/181998015/rate-of-u-s-gun-violence-has-fallen-since-1993-study-says

Since 1993, the United States has seen a drop in the rate of homicides and other violence involving guns, according to two new studies released Tuesday. Using government data, analysts saw a steep drop for violence in the 1990s, they saw more modest drops in crime rates since 2000.

"Firearm-related homicides dropped from 18,253 homicides in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011," according to a report by the federal , "and nonfatal firearm crimes dropped from 1.5 million victimizations in 1993 to 467,300 in 2011.


And in the same timeframe, the US population grew by roughly 30 million, and the number of guns in circulation roughly DOUBLED, from 150 million to almost 300 million.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #26)

Mon May 26, 2014, 09:15 PM

38. Iraq and Afghanistan have done wonders

for improving trauma surgery.

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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #38)

Mon May 26, 2014, 09:39 PM

39. The decline started 22 years ago

We are also talking about a significant two decade decline in all categories of violent crime, not just gun violence. America is a significantly safer place than it was 20 years ago.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #26)

Tue May 27, 2014, 12:32 PM

57. Interesting yet unsupported allegation.

"Sick societies don't cut their murder rates in half..."

Interesting yet unsupported allegation.


Do sick societies posses the greatest number of civilian firearm deaths on the planet, the greatest absolute number of firearms on the planet, export the greatest amount of firearms on the planet, and the greatest number of firearms as a percentage on the planet?

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #57)

Tue May 27, 2014, 12:40 PM

58. Beats me.

from my perspective we are not a sick society. Guns are one of many factors - I am not sure if it is an important one, especially if those guns are killing fewer people every year. An increasing death toll due to increasing violence would be a sign of a sick society - take Venezuela or most South American countries as examples (one third of the world's murders take place in South and Central America). When a society has a two decade stretch of decline in every measurable aspect of criminal violence then if it is sick than it has also found the means to heal itself.

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 03:30 PM

24. The Banning Emergency Room used to talk about the weekly meetings of the Indio Knife and Gun Club.

 

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 03:38 PM

25. These shootings don't count..they're merely collateral damage. n/t

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 07:35 PM

34. Going out on a limb and predicting there won't be 30 OPs on this in the next 72 hrs

 

or all of your other links, combined

k/r

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 11:11 PM

41. Add to that the 3 shot in Myrtle Beach, SC yesterday or the day before.

Too lazy to find a link...

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Tue May 27, 2014, 01:26 AM

51. Holy shit! nt

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Tue May 27, 2014, 01:48 AM

54. Psst. Dude. You're gonna ruin the narrative.

Shhh, will ya.

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Tue May 27, 2014, 12:51 PM

59. It happens all over the place, every day

Here in the Jacksonville, FL area, black-on-black shootings and violence are an everyday occurrence. This was just recently:

"In an ongoing outburst of violence, about 30 gunshots erupted along West Sixth Street off Myrtle Avenue about 2 p.m. Tuesday. The gunfire struck a man and a woman who were driving down the street, police said.

In the last seven days, there have been at least 15 people shot in Jacksonville in 11 shootings, according to Times-Union records. At least three people died. A witness’ description of Tuesday’s shooting indicated it was a possible ambush."

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2014-04-29/story/1-dead-1-wounded-30-shots-fired-another-jacksonville-shooting

If this was in a white neighborhood it would be national news with all out law enforcement attention. Black neighborhood, one little local article and it will happen again within a few days with little more than shrug and brief mention on the evening news.

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Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)

Tue May 27, 2014, 02:15 PM

60. I guess there still aren't enough good guys with guns. We better buy some more.

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